How is a Flame Blade like a scimitar ?


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

Is the Flame Blade considered exactly like a scimitar (1H weapon, matters of proficiency, Arcane Strike, Weapon focus : scimitar and Improved critical : scimitar apply) ?

Is it considered a touch spell (Light weapon, no special proficiency needed, Arcane Strike does not apply, Weapon focus : touch spells and Improved critical : touch spells apply) ?

Or a mix/cumulation of both and in which measure ?

Shadow Lodge

Except for the touch attacks, I always treated it like a scimitar. Weapon Focus(scimitar) gives the standard +1 bonus just like it was a metal scimitar.

Although, since it is a touch spell it is considered a light weapon, so Weapon Finesse can apply.


The black raven wrote:
Is the Flame Blade considered exactly like a scimitar (1H weapon, matters of proficiency, Arcane Strike, Weapon focus : scimitar and Improved critical : scimitar apply) ?

Yes.

PRPG p.283 wrote:

You wield this blade-like beam as if it were a

scimitar.
The black raven wrote:
Is it considered a touch spell (Light weapon, no special proficiency needed, Arcane Strike does not apply, Weapon focus : touch spells and Improved critical : touch spells apply) ?

No.

PRPG p.283 wrote:
Attacks with the flame blade are melee touch attacks.

Touch spells is somewhat different. E.g. you cannot cast spells while holding a touch spell without losing the held spell. You can cast a spell move and deliver the touch spell, in that sequence with touch spells - that you cannot do with the flame blade

The black raven wrote:
Or a mix/cumulation of both and in which measure ?

In all respects it counts as a weapon - specifically as a scimitar. You can spend feats to improve it and can even enhance it with spells or feats like Arcane Strike.


The black raven wrote:
How is a Flame Blade like a scimitar ?

He's gone flamin' mad!!!!!!!

The Exchange

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Dragonborn3 wrote:

Except for the touch attacks, I always treated it like a scimitar. Weapon Focus(scimitar) gives the standard +1 bonus just like it was a metal scimitar.

Although, since it is a touch spell it is considered a light weapon, so Weapon Finesse can apply.

I house-ruled scimitar onto the Finesse list (particularly because I'm running Legacy of Fire and wanted to encourage scimitar use, but mostly based on my own swordplay experience).

Shadow Lodge

delabarre wrote:
Dragonborn3 wrote:

Except for the touch attacks, I always treated it like a scimitar. Weapon Focus(scimitar) gives the standard +1 bonus just like it was a metal scimitar.

Although, since it is a touch spell it is considered a light weapon, so Weapon Finesse can apply.

I house-ruled scimitar onto the Finesse list (particularly because I'm running Legacy of Fire and wanted to encourage scimitar use, but mostly based on my own swordplay experience).

I'll agree with you on that.

The light mace weighs the same as a scimitar(4 pounds), but is considered a light weapon. It's a frikkin' iron ball on a stcik! No way should it be a finesse weapon.

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Has a scimitar description been made for PF?

Liberty's Edge

delabarre wrote:


I house-ruled scimitar onto the Finesse list (particularly because I'm running Legacy of Fire and wanted to encourage scimitar use, but mostly based on my own swordplay experience).

Or you could use the Dervish Dance feat from the Qadira PFCom which allows you to use your DEX mod instead of your STR mod to BOTH attack and damage with a scimitar.


The black raven wrote:
How is a Flame Blade like a scimitar ?

"The pointy end goes into the other man."


Daniel Moyer wrote:
The black raven wrote:
How is a Flame Blade like a scimitar ?
"The pointy end goes into the other man."

LOL, but a scimitars curve actually makes it unsuited for thrusting attacks.

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