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Fake Healer wrote:

Ninja Tigers!!

Izzat all you got? A white tiger ninja?


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:

3. I could show you online video of mine, how about yours?

Just for kicks, I can show you an online video of my Boston Terrrier Wilbur helping himself to apples off my apple tree. He's a pretty dexterous little dude.


Richard Pett wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:

Did someone mention Petts?

Oh, wrong sort, I see - carry on...

Funny enough, whenever I see your good name I think of the Imperial who was a kiss ass to Darth Vader.
I try not to talk about my film career as it makes logue cry:)

I've home-brewed a template just 'cause of you Sir Pett. <eg>


Kassil wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
Nathan Nasif wrote:
f'n awesome. I'm bookmarking this page so I can stay abreast of the upcoming pawfinder adventures.
I plan to keep information flowing, never fear. :)
Turin, I have something I want to bother you about. You should srsly trade some contact info with me via EVE or something. ;p

whispers to Kassil E-mail addy is in mah profile ^_^


Richard Pett wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:


Aura of Cuddly Cuteness (Su) The critter with this aura is perceived by the weak-minded as defenseless, harmless and innocent to the point of sainthood. Living creatures of good and neutral alignments must succeed on a Will saving throw to avoid perceiving the creature as cute and cuddly at a DC of 23. (Evil creatures cannot bring themselves to believe even their own offspring are cute and cuddly, let alone a critter they've never met before.) This functions as an enthrall effect with no HD limit nor any requirement for conscious action on the part of the critter emanating the aura. Lawful Good creatures suffer a -4 penalty on this saving throw, as do saintly creatures and exalted creatures. This -4 penalty stacks with itself, so an exalted saintly Lawful Good creature suffers a -12 penalty on their saving throw. While this is a mind-affecting (compulsion) effect, its insidious nature bypasses one source of immunity to such effects, such as a mind blank or a champion of freedom's class immunity to compulsions. Druids and rangers with animal companions suffer the same -4 penalty as characters of Lawful Good alignment. Lawful Good rangers with animal companions are, of course, in deep trouble ...

Nice!

Hmmm, how can I get that one into an adventure:) Cute owlbear chicks huzzah!

^_^

The Exchange

Cats = FAIL!

The Exchange

Cats = FAIL!!

The Exchange

Kassil wrote:
Fake Healer wrote:

Ninja Tigers!!

Izzat all you got? A white tiger ninja?

It's an underwater ninja tiger!


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:

3. I could show you online video of mine, how about yours?

Just for kicks, I can show you an online video of my Boston Terrrier Wilbur helping himself to apples off my apple tree. He's a pretty dexterous little dude.

2 things.

1. That is a "TERRIER" which is not the dog represented in the DMG, which is more like a Germain Shepherd if I am not mistaken, but it is definatly not that small breed of dog you have there. The smaller breeds are naturally more dexterous than the larger breeds.

2. Even your smaller dog is not as dexturous as your natural born average cat. Link

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Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
2. Even your smaller door is not as dexturous as your natural born average cat. Link

Of course his door is as agile as a cat, it's a door. Doors don't get Dex scores as far as I know.

Spoiler:
Agility isn't the only component of Dexterity. Also, unless you're giving Turin fuel for Pawfinder, this is a silly dispute, although an amusing way to waste time.


Fake Healer wrote:
Cats = FAIL!!

Dog = FAIL

Dog = FAIL

Dog = FAIL

Dog = FAIL

So in the end...

Dog = FAIL!!!


Kassil wrote:


Of course his do

OK I fix it. Please remove.


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:


2 things.

1. That is a "TERRIER" which is not the dog represented in the DMG, which is more like a Germain Shepherd if I am not mistaken, but it is definatly not that small breed of dog you have there. The smaller breeds are naturally more dexterous than the larger breeds.

2. Even your smaller door is not as dexturous as your natural born average cat. Link

Meh. Just posted it for fun. I don't have a dog in this fight {pun intended}


mmm ... Terriers of Terror ... nyuk nyuk nyuk ...

Liberty's Edge

Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
Kassil wrote:


Of course his do
OK I fix it. Please remove.

Would if I could, but it's too late now, since I don't live on these boards. Besides, it was a funny mistake what with all the people getting needlessly worked up.


Kassil wrote:
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
2. Even your smaller door is not as dexturous as your natural born average cat. Link

Of course his door is as agile as a cat, it's a door. Doors don't get Dex scores as far as I know.

** spoiler omitted **

You forget the menace of certain variations of door...


Richard Pett wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:


Aura of Cuddly Cuteness (Su) The critter with this aura is perceived by the weak-minded as defenseless, harmless and innocent to the point of sainthood. Living creatures of good and neutral alignments must succeed on a Will saving throw to avoid perceiving the creature as cute and cuddly at a DC of 23. (Evil creatures cannot bring themselves to believe even their own offspring are cute and cuddly, let alone a critter they've never met before.) This functions as an enthrall effect with no HD limit nor any requirement for conscious action on the part of the critter emanating the aura. Lawful Good creatures suffer a -4 penalty on this saving throw, as do saintly creatures and exalted creatures. This -4 penalty stacks with itself, so an exalted saintly Lawful Good creature suffers a -12 penalty on their saving throw. While this is a mind-affecting (compulsion) effect, its insidious nature bypasses one source of immunity to such effects, such as a mind blank or a champion of freedom's class immunity to compulsions. Druids and rangers with animal companions suffer the same -4 penalty as characters of Lawful Good alignment. Lawful Good rangers with animal companions are, of course, in deep trouble ...

Nice!

Hmmm, how can I get that one into an adventure:) Cute owlbear chicks huzzah!

Awww, they're soooo cute! rawr chew chomp maul mangle mutilate

GetemoffamegetemOFFnottheFACEnottheFACEaaaiiieeee!!!!! gurglerattle...

purrmerowl?


Turin the Mad wrote:

You forget the menace of certain variations of door...

Doors can be bastards.


KaeYoss wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:

You forget the menace of certain variations of door...

Doors can be bastards.

Yes, they have a rather profound trend to being born out of wedlock.

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Turin the Mad wrote:
KaeYoss wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:

You forget the menace of certain variations of door...

Doors can be bastards.
Yes, they have a rather profound trend to being born out of wedlock.

Then there're those doppledoors...


Turin the Mad wrote:

I do believe, looking at a couple of beanie critters sitting on my game map next to me, that the typical beanie critter is a Huge critter in 1" = 5' game scale...

EDIT: Glad you liked it / I made you spew through orofices Gurububarestofyourname!! Your avatar name is SUCH a pain in the tucas, FYI. :P Just sayin'...

^_^

Work is in progress on Pawfinder, so ideas are being gleefully mined, pillaged, stolen and mutated.

Guru for short dude!


My cat just pulled a move I thought only dogs did: Ye Olde Wipe My Poopy Ass All Over the Living Room Carpet trick.

Is that a feat or a Combat Maneuver?

Damn cat.


Gurubabaramalamaswami wrote:

My cat just pulled a move I thought only dogs did: Ye Olde Wipe My Poopy Ass All Over the Living Room Carpet trick.

Is that a feat or a Combat Maneuver?

Damn cat.

Yeah, mine gave me Strategic Placement of Half-Digested Rodent in Hallway. That's gotta be a combat manuver, since I almost died slipping on the vomitus mass in the predawn darkness, then had to instantly make a DC20 Fort save or lose my cookies ....

Stoopid cat.


Kassil wrote:


Then there're those doppledoors...

Some doors are simply revolving!

Liberty's Edge

Hmm...the perfect attack dog...Bull Mastiff size....Chihuahua attitude. Now THAT, my friends, wold be a dangerous animal! Being the proud owner of five chihuahuas I can say first hand that they don't back down from ANYHTING which almost caused us to loose one to a Doberman Pincher. Luckily, I got between them before any fighting started (the Doberman could have been killed! :-))


Kevida wrote:
Hmm...the perfect attack dog...Bull Mastiff size....Chihuahua attitude. Now THAT, my friends, wold be a dangerous animal! Being the proud owner of five chihuahuas I can say first hand that they don't back down from ANYHTING which almost caused us to loose one to a Doberman Pincher. Luckily, I got between them before any fighting started (the Doberman could have been killed! :-))

Terriers of Terror ... already included in Pawfinder for your gnomish dying pleasure. :-P


Rough first is done on Pawfinder - Chapter 1 detailing is slated to begin in earnest tomorrow afternoon.

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

Turin the Mad wrote:
Rough first is done on Pawfinder - Chapter 1 detailing is slated to begin in earnest tomorrow afternoon.

After reading through this entire threat, all I can say is that your forum handle is most apt. :D


Lord Fyre wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
Rough first is done on Pawfinder - Chapter 1 detailing is slated to begin in earnest tomorrow afternoon.
After reading through this entire threat, all I can say is that your forum handle is most apt. :D

Makes an innocent facial expression, ala Puss in Boots from the 2nd and 3rd Shrek movies.

I just did a couple of sketches for Pawfinder on dry-erase boards that I am hoping can be scanned in from digital picture. Probably won't be able to mess around with mapping software for, oh, say 3 weeks at the present estimate. :)


Well, can't wait to see what you have made in a few day.


Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
Well, can't wait to see what you have made in a few day.

The most you'll see on that is "Chapter 1 writing finished" or the like.

^_^

The whole idea is to wind up with a (relatively) finished product after all...


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber

If I may be semi-serious in this thread for a moment, (not that I know if I should, what with all the epic conflict going on with the Cat-astrophes and acts of Derring-Dog-Doo,) in a game of ours recently, one of my players got into a fight with a riding dog (a big mastiff.) She got an attack on it flatfooted, but missed its flatfoot AC of 14. Game actually ground to a halt for a little while because she couldn't conceive that an ordinary riding dog would have a +4 natural armor bonus.

"Its fur is as good as a chain shirt!" she cried, incredulously. And I have to admit, she has a point.

Any thoughts, from posters or designers alike?


Drakli wrote:

If I may be semi-serious in this thread for a moment, (not that I know if I should, what with all the epic conflict going on with the Cat-astrophes and acts of Derring-Dog-Doo,) in a game of ours recently, one of my players got into a fight with a riding dog (a big mastiff.) She got an attack on it flatfooted, but missed its flatfoot AC of 14. Game actually ground to a halt for a little while because she couldn't conceive that an ordinary riding dog would have a +4 natural armor bonus.

"Its fur is as good as a chain shirt!" she cried, incredulously. And I have to admit, she has a point.

Any thoughts, from posters or designers alike?

I do not believe that, when they statted up the 'mundane' animals that they were going to also be able to have barding AND a comparatively high Dexterity bonus to AC AND function as an animal companion.

Although they may well have - that is a good question...

A.H.C.


Armor Class: 16 (+2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 12, flat-footed 14

Yeah he +4 natural armor. I think that is insane, no dog has hide as tough as a chain shirt, maybe the bone structure has a factor?

I think that at probably should be knocked down to a 2 Natural AC, and a Dex of +2 meh, so long as a cat gets at least +3 (or more) I can see that bread with a dex of 14/15.


Hang in there.

A.H.C.


Lord Fyre wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
Rough first is done on Pawfinder - Chapter 1 detailing is slated to begin in earnest tomorrow afternoon.
After reading through this entire threat, all I can say is that your forum handle is most apt. :D

Why, what ever could you be implying Lord Fyre? ^_^

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

Turin the Mad wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
Rough first is done on Pawfinder - Chapter 1 detailing is slated to begin in earnest tomorrow afternoon.
After reading through this entire threat, all I can say is that your forum handle is most apt. :D
Why, what ever could you be implying Lord Fyre? ^_^

Makes an innocent facial expression, ala Puss in Boots from the 2nd and 3rd Shrek movies.


Lord Fyre wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:
Rough first is done on Pawfinder - Chapter 1 detailing is slated to begin in earnest tomorrow afternoon.
After reading through this entire threat, all I can say is that your forum handle is most apt. :D
Why, what ever could you be implying Lord Fyre? ^_^
Makes an innocent facial expression, ala Puss in Boots from the 2nd and 3rd Shrek movies.

Awwwww.. he's so CUTE!!

Quick, break out the wombats!!

Sczarni

Richard Pett wrote:
Turin the Mad wrote:


Aura of Cuddly Cuteness (Su) The critter with this aura is perceived by the weak-minded as defenseless, harmless and innocent to the point of sainthood. Living creatures of good and neutral alignments must succeed on a Will saving throw to avoid perceiving the creature as cute and cuddly at a DC of 23. (Evil creatures cannot bring themselves to believe even their own offspring are cute and cuddly, let alone a critter they've never met before.) This functions as an enthrall effect with no HD limit nor any requirement for conscious action on the part of the critter emanating the aura. Lawful Good creatures suffer a -4 penalty on this saving throw, as do saintly creatures and exalted creatures. This -4 penalty stacks with itself, so an exalted saintly Lawful Good creature suffers a -12 penalty on their saving throw. While this is a mind-affecting (compulsion) effect, its insidious nature bypasses one source of immunity to such effects, such as a mind blank or a champion of freedom's class immunity to compulsions. Druids and rangers with animal companions suffer the same -4 penalty as characters of Lawful Good alignment. Lawful Good rangers with animal companions are, of course, in deep trouble ...

Nice!

Hmmm, how can I get that one into an adventure:) Cute owlbear chicks huzzah!

Tim:Follow. But. Follow only if ye be men of valour, for the entrance to this cave is guarded by a creature so foul, so cruel that no man yet has fought with it and lived. Bones of full fifty men lie strewn about its lair. So, brave knights, if you do doubt your courage or your strength, come no further, for death awaits you all with nasty, big, pointy teeth...

There he is!

King Arthur: Where?

Tim: There!

King Arthur: What? Behind the rabbit?

Tim: It *is* the rabbit!

King Arthur: You silly sod!

Tim: What?

King Arthur: You got us all worked up!

Tim: Well, that's no ordinary rabbit.That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!

Sir Robin: You tit! I soiled my armor I was so scared!

Tim: Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!

Sir Galahad: Get stuffed!

Tim: I'm warning you!

Sir Robin: What's he do? Nibble your bum?

Tim: He's got huge, sharp... er... He can leap about. Look at the bones!


*silently sits outside the cave, looking quite cuddly and nonthreatening*


Pie Ieso Domine!

Dona Eis Requiem!

Don't make me get my prayer board!


::grasps his Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, pulling the pin and counting::

1 . . .
2 . . .
4!

No! I meant 3!

Boom.


Anyone else out there remember the sagas of Miarow Tomokato?


Balor wrote:

Anyone else out there remember the sagas of Miarow Tomokato?

Very much so Balor - why do you think I'm having to refrain from naming one of the places Katzat-Dum? ^_^


Getting back on topic a little, if only to help the mad guy out, what should the dex of a cat be?

15, 17, 19?

What does it take for one to do a tripple backflip and catch something in mid air untrained, and just for the thrill of it.

In general their reflexes are astonishing. Ever try and get them to treat your hand as a toy and play keep away. I did, once. The cat was a good 10-13ft away and he was on me like white on rice.

Personally I would say 17 would be proper, you?


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:

Getting back on topic a little, if only to help the mad guy out, what should the dex of a cat be?

15, 17, 19?

What does it take for one to do a tripple backflip and catch something in mid air untrained, and just for the thrill of it.

In general their reflexes are astonishing. Ever try and get them to treat your hand as a toy and play keep away. I did, once. The cat was a good 10-13ft away and he was on me like white on rice.

Personally I would say 17 would be proper, you?

That would be based on the size of the furball IMO. Cat in the MM is a Tiny Animal, so the simplest fix is to bump its DEX up to 19 (2 better than the Small Dog in the MM).

Oh, and Acrobatics is probably a 'trained class skill' for cats and quite a few other animals ... you have to remember to convert over the skills...


OK, that being said, mind if I write the dire cat?


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
OK, that being said, mind if I write the dire cat?

The Dire Lolcat is already roughed out for Pawfinder, but you can do a regular one I suppose...


OMG.

I just saw this poster in the RPG.net motivational poster forum, and I thought it soo fitted for the pawfinder game.

Animals with craft skill ranks


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:

OMG.

I just saw this poster in the RPG.net motivational poster forum, and I thought it soo fitted for the pawfinder game.

Animals with craft skill ranks

It does ... it does indeed ... makes suitable notation

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