Magic Item Creation Rules Inconsistency


RPG Superstar™ 2009 General Discussion


I have a question about the rules. There is an inconsistency between the chart and what is said in the text. In DnD rules you are supposed to go with the text over the chart, but I want to be sure.

In the chart it says:
"Multiple different abilities Multiply higher item cost by 2"

But in the text it says:
"Multiple Different Abilities: Abilities such as an attack
roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function
are not similar, and their values are simply added together
to determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on
a character’s body, each additional power not only has no
discount but instead has a 50% increase in price."

The chart makes little sense as non of the items created in the beta go by the charts rules, the example given doesn't even do that.

So could you please clarify what I am supposed to do?

Paizo Employee Director of Games

Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:


I have a question about the rules. There is an inconsistency between the chart and what is said in the text. In DnD rules you are supposed to go with the text over the chart, but I want to be sure.

In the chart it says:
"Multiple different abilities Multiply higher item cost by 2"

But in the text it says:
"Multiple Different Abilities: Abilities such as an attack
roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function
are not similar, and their values are simply added together
to determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on
a character’s body, each additional power not only has no
discount but instead has a 50% increase in price."

The chart makes little sense as non of the items created in the beta go by the charts rules, the example given doesn't even do that.

So could you please clarify what I am supposed to do?

I can see how this is unclear (and actually quite contradictory). In this case, I would go with the text, which leads to more reasonably priced items.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing


Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:


I have a question about the rules. There is an inconsistency between the chart and what is said in the text. In DnD rules you are supposed to go with the text over the chart, but I want to be sure.

In the chart it says:
"Multiple different abilities Multiply higher item cost by 2"

But in the text it says:
"Multiple Different Abilities: Abilities such as an attack
roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function
are not similar, and their values are simply added together
to determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on
a character’s body, each additional power not only has no
discount but instead has a 50% increase in price."

The chart makes little sense as non of the items created in the beta go by the charts rules, the example given doesn't even do that.

So could you please clarify what I am supposed to do?

I can see how this is unclear (and actually quite contradictory). In this case, I would go with the text, which leads to more reasonably priced items.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

YAY!!! Thank You!


Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:
Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:


I have a question about the rules. There is an inconsistency between the chart and what is said in the text. In DnD rules you are supposed to go with the text over the chart, but I want to be sure.

In the chart it says:
"Multiple different abilities Multiply higher item cost by 2"

But in the text it says:
"Multiple Different Abilities: Abilities such as an attack
roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function
are not similar, and their values are simply added together
to determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on
a character’s body, each additional power not only has no
discount but instead has a 50% increase in price."

The chart makes little sense as non of the items created in the beta go by the charts rules, the example given doesn't even do that.

So could you please clarify what I am supposed to do?

I can see how this is unclear (and actually quite contradictory). In this case, I would go with the text, which leads to more reasonably priced items.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

YAY!!! Thank You!

Most of the items in 3.5 SRD or Paizo Beta PDF follow exactly what Jason has stated. The only items never in questions are ability, enchancement and skills, you can take those straight from the chart, what gets confusing is if you start adding abilities, what I do, is find a similiar item of build or effect and then look at what spell may be close to duplicating the effect, if your spell is higher then the example item, then up the price a bit, if you follow chart to the tee, your item will always priced at least 2x higher. Like everyone has said, its not really written in stone but more of an art to get an item that fits yet isn't unreasonable when being purchased.

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