
hopeless |

Herve is also now a full 2nd level aristocrat . I gave him 5 hits points for his 2nd level assuming the average is all right with you
Thats fine you might want to look at what feat you or the others want to pick up for 3rd level since some can be picked up by merely using it like two weapon fighting for example however metamagic and similar styles feats need some explanation.

hopeless |

Woops! I didn't even see this game start! Sometimes I just gloss over any thread that doesn't have a dot.
Brallin's still travelling around. If you want, I can hop in, but I don't want to impose if you have another person lined up!
Jump in when you're ready, so far they've started on their quest and successfully survived an ambush and now dealing with the aftermath of that encounter...

Khaladon |

I play with him in another PbP, I 'll ask him if he is still in .
Boggo and Willard , Herve is coming a bit strong there. Be assured I'm having a blast playing with you . It's just characters' tension .
Aye, nae worries la...oops! lol I mean No Worries mate. It's all good, I never take anything in IC personally. As is the way it's supposed to be. Part of the enjoyment of Gaming for me is watching and participating in the group storytelling we all create together. It's like acting. I appreciate good RPing and it's all in good fun. : )

Aaron Whitley |

Brallin wrote:Jump in when you're ready, so far they've started on their quest and successfully survived an ambush and now dealing with the aftermath of that encounter...Woops! I didn't even see this game start! Sometimes I just gloss over any thread that doesn't have a dot.
Brallin's still travelling around. If you want, I can hop in, but I don't want to impose if you have another person lined up!
Hey hopless, I wanted to try something different with my ranger and wanted to run it by you first. I was thinking of taking one of the ranger variants from the SRD (which can be found here). Essentially I give up the weapon style of the ranger in exchange for the Wildshape (small and medium animals) of the Druid and fast movement of a barbarian. Take a look, think about it, and let me know what you think. I want to try and tie in the whole Fey connection if possible and figured that this would work nicely.
I figured at second level I could take the fast movement instead of the first combat style feat and at 5th level I could take the Wildshape (small and medium animals).

hopeless |

I'm trying to update my character as quickly as possible before jumping back in. And by that I mean I'm trying to find the multiclassing rules in the Beta. >:(
I'm not sure about something, is Carter dead or just unconscious? I just wanted to make sure I was on the right page.
I'm running it that npc classes don't count under multi-classing rules so any pc class should be fine its just that you will need to note which class is your favoured class though.
Old Carter was poisoned and currently unconscious.

hopeless |

Hey hopeless, I wanted to try something different with my ranger and wanted to run it by you first. I was thinking of taking one of the ranger variants from the SRD (which can be found here). Essentially I give up the weapon style of the ranger in exchange for the Wildshape (small and medium animals) of the Druid and fast movement of a barbarian. Take a look, think about it, and let me know what you think. I want to try and tie in the whole Fey connection if possible and figured that this would work nicely.I figured at second level I could take the fast movement instead of the first combat style feat and at 5th level I could take the Wildshape (small and medium animals).
Go ahead don't forget to note that change on your character profile to avoid problems later and for the others if you see anything there you'd like to try out just let me know.

hopeless |

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If Brallin survives to take his first level, he's going druid....
Both should be fine let me know if you want to use something from the variant srd like Talen did the link is in an earlier message if you want to take a look.
Don't forget the golarion campaign setting is available for use if some thing in there catches your eye!

Khaladon |

Bogorin's angry rant aside ;-) we Do have a few things to discuss and decide here. What path to take obviously, what to do with the horses and wagon with Carter in it, and what marching order we should take once inside (although I guess we can better decide that once we know how much space we have)
The path marked danger May meant that there's danger in the whole area and that the secret back way in is the Safe way...no? And it's strange that there are old human and wagon tracks going that way. Since we Have a wagon with a precious cargo in it that May be the safeest way to go.
I'm not sure what the path with the Goblin tracks indicates, but it doesn't seem to be going in the direction we want.
The path straight ahead seems simple, but it likely is also the one which will lead us into the earliest confrontation with the ogre. That suits Bogorin fine but it still leaves the issue of what to do with Carter...?

Khaladon |

Or Willy and Bogorin could stay in the wagon with him and finish the cask of whiskey Willy stole from the Consortium wagon.
LMAO Rimrock! Shhh! Don't tell Bogorin THAT! If he starts hitting that cask you won't see him till Next Tues. Better Hide it! (at least until After we rescue the damsel in distress and kill all the bad guys ;-)
And Robin, please accept my apologies if my RPing of Bogo is causing you to have any less enjoyment in the game. For me, actions in IC are ALWAYS just that, IN IC. Nothing Bogorin says or does to Herve is in Any way meant to be reflected in my feelings or opinion s towards you. For me RPing is like Acting. If we were both in a stage play and the script called for you to slap me or even beat up my on-stage brother or something I wouldn't take it personally, it would just be 'part of the show'. I hope you can adopt the same attitude towards Bogo's riding of Herve. If not please let me know and I'll try and rein him in a bit (but it won't be easy, he's a cantankerous old sot! ;-)
An even Better solution though i think would be for Herve to deal with it Himself in IC. (And I can give you a hint, although he may not show it (or at least not right away) Bogo would definitely respect him more for it :)
But either way, please don't ever hesitate to let me know if something I'm doing is bothering you and I'll do my best to correct it. Cool?

Aaron Whitley |

Personally, I think we should leave Carter and the wagon in the woods and hide him. If we take him with us then he becomes a liability as we have to protect him. At this point I suggest we take the wagon and Carter as far as we can and then hide them.
Like Talden said, there's danger no matter which way we go and we at least have some idea of what is at the hill as opposed to the secret entrance.

Khaladon |

I agree, we'll have to take Carter with us as far as we can.
But, ah, Robin, Seriously?? Um, maybe while Bogo's Sleeping I guess...;-)
EDIT: Hey Hopeless, a question if I may? Robin's threat to (possibly) kill poor ole Bogorin naturally made me check out Herve's stats and indeed, it seems he is a bit more capable then I had assumed. Some further checking though, and then some more checking after that has brought me to a conundrum. This May just all be due to the fact that, like 'ole Bogo I'm gettin' old, but I Seem to recall that we used the Point Buy system to assign our stats. But when I checked out Herve's stats, and then Bogo's stats, and then Everyone else's stats, I just got more confused. Unless I'm off on my math or have lost more of my marbles than I realized, I came out with several different numbers. It seems that two people used 27 points, one used 26, two used 24 and Bogo used 20. But How can that be? I couldn't find the original recruitment post anywhere to check so...could you indulge an old fellow and satisfy my curiosity here? Apologies as I didn't mean to rock the boat or anything with my 'investigations' but just trying to figure it out.
Thanks

hopeless |

I agree, we'll have to take Carter with us as far as we can.
But, ah, Robin, Seriously?? Um, maybe while Bogo's Sleeping I guess...;-)
EDIT: Hey Hopeless, a question if I may? Robin's threat to (possibly) kill poor ole Bogorin naturally made me check out Herve's stats and indeed, it seems he is a bit more capable then I had assumed. Some further checking though, and then some more checking after that has brought me to a conundrum. This May just all be due to the fact that, like 'ole Bogo I'm gettin' old, but I Seem to recall that we used the Point Buy system to assign our stats. But when I checked out Herve's stats, and then Bogo's stats, and then Everyone else's stats, I just got more confused. Unless I'm off on my math or have lost more of my marbles than I realized, I came out with several different numbers. It seems that two people used 27 points, one used 26, two used 24 and Bogo used 20. But How can that be? I couldn't find the original recruitment post anywhere to check so...could you indulge an old fellow and satisfy my curiosity here? Apologies as I didn't mean to rock the boat or anything with my 'investigations' but just trying to figure it out.
Bogorin is actually a lot older than normal, trust me I went through the same problems when I was checking the characters until I realised he had to be so old so has a bonus to mental atributes and a penatly to physical attributes...

Khaladon |

OH YA! D'oh. lol, I Forgot I did that :P um, oops! See, I guess there's a Reason I'm playing an old fogey =D
I Think that solves the issue for Bogorin anyway. It still doesn't really solve why other people seemed to have different scores but then that's not really my business (and I could very well just be Wrong again-I think I Did actually forget about the racial bonus' as well). So thanks for the reminder Hopeless :)
(I think it also had to do with him feeling a bit insecure when he saw his stats stacked up against all the young folk! LOL But then again that Had been my intention, to play and old, almost completely worn out and washed up 'man' who, when inspired, thought he might just still have one fight left in him. And who hopefully finds out he actually has a whole lot more left than he thought )

Aaron Whitley |

Strength 15 (13 + 2 racial) 3pts
Dexterity 14 5pts
Constitution 14 5pts
Intelligence 14 5pts
Wisdom 10 0 pts
Charisma 12 2pts
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Total points = (3+5+5+5+2) 20
I just double checked mine and I think they look good. Maybe the racial modifiers is what might be throwing off your calculations of the stats?

robin |
Obviously the relations of Herve with this group have detoriated too much
Actually, he is planning to confront the ogre alone ( chance of survival really really low and he knows it) .
Hopeless , I can understand if you don't want to run a player apart from the others especially as I don't know if he will rejoin the group after
Please let me know your decision

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Robin, I am of course interested in confronting the Ogre as well.
I feel like we've repeatedly been forced to not confront the Ogre. Brallin would gladly march right in there, but it feels very much like we're trapped in one of Zeno's Paradoxes.
It seems like hopeless doesn't want us to go in there, as he keeps sidetracking us. We've been intending to go into that cave since I arrived on the scene, 18 days ago.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is, I know that we have all been patient, but we need to be more patient. Herve rushing off will get himself killed.

hopeless |

Robin, I am of course interested in confronting the Ogre as well.
I feel like we've repeatedly been forced to not confront the Ogre. Brallin would gladly march right in there, but it feels very much like we're trapped in one of Zeno's Paradoxes.
It seems like hopeless doesn't want us to go in there, as he keeps sidetracking us. We've been intending to go into that cave since I arrived on the scene, 18 days ago.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is, I know that we have all been patient, but we need to be more patient. Herve rushing off will get himself killed.
Its more a case of me making one too many mistakes, I didn't expect you to take the wagon route since I'd made the route I'd thought you'd take come across as too dangerous...

robin |
xdahnx wrote:Robin, I am of course interested in confronting the Ogre as well.
I feel like we've repeatedly been forced to not confront the Ogre. Brallin would gladly march right in there, but it feels very much like we're trapped in one of Zeno's Paradoxes.
It seems like hopeless doesn't want us to go in there, as he keeps sidetracking us. We've been intending to go into that cave since I arrived on the scene, 18 days ago.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is, I know that we have all been patient, but we need to be more patient. Herve rushing off will get himself killed.
Its more a case of me making one too many mistakes, I didn't expect you to take the wagon route since I'd made the route I'd thought you'd take come across as too dangerous...
Hopeless , you gave us the information , we decided to take the risks !
Your job is not to nurse us . If we have a TPK , it's too bad but it won't be your fault.And XdahnX , I aggree with you ... Herve is going to be killed there but I believe in playing a character to the hilt . Herve tried a gambit when he told you essentially to stop wool gathering and to follow him NOW ! It didn't work . That's all right , let the dice roll now . And you never know , I might yet surprise you

hopeless |

Hopeless , I'm still waiting for your reply
Sorry got caught up and missed your remark.
Yes you can go off alone but the easiest route would be back the way you came unless you want to head up the hill ahead of the wagon which won't escape notice.
Heading back on horseback would allow you to doubleback since it would now be obvious where the second trail now leads and the time it takes for the wagon to make the turn and head up the hill you'd be back at the trail and heading up it due to the same rules for running make it alot easier on horseback if you want to do this just post your Initiative roll in the next response on the game thread and I'll treat it as thats what you're doing.

robin |
For hopeless

hopeless |

For hopeless
** spoiler omitted **
I'm going to prepare a map for your perusal so you have a heads up as to what you've ridden into.
Approach up the trail
Let me know if you can see this image.

robin |
Okay what points you want to discuss regarding ranged opportunity attacks?
One of the BIG problem with 3rd edition was when to determine if someone had an OOC .
so I would like a clarifaction of the circonstances which for you enable an archer to have an OOC .I admit I am a little afraid it will be too often ...
Takes an habitual outdoor situation
Joe the archer and Bill the fighter meet . They are initially at a distance of 180 feet. It will take at least two rounds for Bill to close with Joe during which Joe will be able to shoot at him
When would Joe have an OOC ?

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Ranged AoOs don't really make sense. If an archer's skill and speed is already measured by how many attacks he can make in a round (through Base Attack Bonus), then he should be able to make attacks as normal. If it takes three rounds to get there, and the archer can act normally in those three rounds, he would get three shots. As normal.

hopeless |

hopeless wrote:Okay what points you want to discuss regarding ranged opportunity attacks?One of the BIG problem with 3rd edition was when to determine if someone had an OOC .
so I would like a clarifaction of the circonstances which for you enable an archer to have an OOC .
I admit I am a little afraid it will be too often ...Takes an habitual outdoor situation
Joe the archer and Bill the fighter meet . They are initially at a distance of 180 feet. It will take at least two rounds for Bill to close with Joe during which Joe will be able to shoot at him
When would Joe have an OOC ?
If joe had his bow ready he would be able to let loose two arrows each round until Bill got into melee range, the first his opportunity attack the second his normal attack, maybe I should just leave this alone until its discussed properly (in other words raise a query and see what develops).
Okay anyway Tenna has an attack this round, I'll post a thread to ask about this so we'll continue as if that goblin only had its normal attack.
Created a thread in the general discussion for Pathfinder on this will look on it tomorrow to read the responses so I guess for now I'll stop making things more complicated and keep it strictly to pathfinder beta.
As a friend advised me more than once Keep It Simple Stupid!
Anyway that doesn't mean we can't discuss this further here if you want.