What about using the cleric with the "Holy warrior" aspect in the gazzeteer to simulate a Favoured Soul if you go that route.
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What about using the cleric with the "Holy warrior" aspect in the gazzeteer to simulate a Favoured Soul if you go that route.
That's a little bit different, Larcifer.
Your mileage (or niel's) may vary, but I understand a "Favored Soul" to be someone who is "touched by" a god and gains powers through nothing more than the deity's continued favor. It's like being a living Holy Symbol. In some ways, I understand the flavor of a Favored Soul to be closer to that of a Sorcerer or a Paladin than a Cleric (who makes the deliberate decision to enact a god's will). If I were going to add some strength to the Favored Soul, I'd see what kind of things an extraplanar bloodline grants.
The Golarion "Holy Warrior" option removes all the domain spells and powrers, and replaces them with full BAB, proficiency in the deity's weapon of choice, and d10 hit dice. That doesn't strike me as the same kind of thing.
Good point Chris! I was just trying to emmulate the game mechanic of how a Favoured soul gets a good attack progression and better HP than a cleric, and a FS does nto get domains. as for the role play aspect that can work however the player attempts to. I think your evaluation of the Favored Soul is spot on.
Two longspears sounds like a choreographically impressive fighting style.
:-) That was the idea.
And it's actually a DOUBLE Long Spear, not two weapons wielded at once, but one with two spear heads. I 'approximated' it's base cost & weight, comparing regular spears, longspears, battle axes & orcish double axes. Coincidentally, I ended up (w/o my pack) at EXACTLY my max unencumbered weight without ANY adjustments...I'll call that a sign from the Gods :-)
I used my Human Bonus Weapon Proficiency to be proficient in it (whoops- I didn't include that on the Profile, but since I have all martial weapons anyways, it's probably something I'll never need to reference)
The "Two Weapon Fighting" Feat is a bit misleading, because it also applies to double weapons, like Dwarven Ugroshes(?) and Dire Flails.
Anyhow, this seems like a really big group... Maybe someone could post a 'lineup' of the group, since it sounds like everyone has at least their basic character concept down, if not every detail.
I may be referenced as "Yalka, Barbarian Princess. You may pet her horse if you ask nicely." :-)
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So far:
Anyhow, this seems like a really big group... Maybe someone could post a 'lineup' of the group, since it sounds like everyone has at least their basic character concept down, if not every detail.
- Larcifer ........ Sachiko, human (Tian Xia) barbarian / sorcerer, buying her way out of slavery
- Quandray ........ Yalka Kross-Dorm, human (Kellid) barbarian princess
- niel ............ currently unnamed cleric of weather and plants
- Gavgoyle ........ Martaug CrowsGizzard, half-orc druid, vermin-buddy
- Wandslinger ..... Kara Silvertongue, human (Taldan) fighter, nicest sellsword you'd ever want to meet
- Valdisara ....... Valdisara, half-elf paladin, searching for her family
- Cacosphinx ...... Grumblenaught, dwarven ranger, mountaineer
- Deserach ........ Deserach, human (Keleshite) conjurer, wandering scholar
- Fax ............. Zosimus, human (Varisian) diviner, going to redeem his homeland
And, of the seven PC's who have listed alignment, there's one LG (guess who?), three NG's, two CG's, and a true N.
So, I think we're building a party.
Hmmm.
How do you imagine he would interact with a sincere follower of Gozreh who was badly misunderstanding some of the god's tenets? Or with a priestess who was very much involved in the church organization, and who sought to enlist you in a mission under the church's auspices?
Consider making your character either
(a) a pilgrim, well-versed in Gozreh's teachings and a priest in good standing, but on "detached duty" in an area where the church has more roadside shrines than grand cathedrals, or
(b) a "favored soul", upgraded to be competitive with the Pathfinder base classes.
Actually I may be a sincere follower of Gozreh who is badly misunderstanding some of my god's church's tenets. And a priestess with the appearence of church backing would easily enlist me for a mission.
But the aim was not to go away from the cleric class. I just wanted to fit in my choice of an unusual god for the locale. I think I learned the tenets of Gozreh from a traveling pilgrim who was visiting the sites of some of the famous storms of modern times. Perhaps a Favored Soul, perhaps a retired seaman, showing his devotion to a god who safeguarded his life and livelihood throughout his sea-going career. One of those retire-into-the-priesthood types who recognized the potential in a young boy with a fascination for storms and stayed around to teach him of the priesthood.
The character's mostly done. I just want to check if my local game store has the setting book or the Second Darkness players' guide in before I finalize the details. Regardless, I'll get the final write up posted on Sunday.
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Varno: The close-knit people of Varno flourish in a land of scattered lakes and dense forests. The land and weather of Varno is fickle, and a season of bounty might be followed by years of famine, souring the people against even their closet friends. Such turns make the folk of Varno a pious lot, just as quick to kneel to icons of capricious Desna and tempestuous Gozreh as they are to believe the sermonizing of soothsayers and con artists.
Varno sounds like the easiest way to make the Gozreh connection. Thanks.
(My flgs was unable to get any of the Paizo products other than Beta, so i'm still without the campaign setting and the players' guide. Hopefully next week, or my loyalty is going to be very strained.)
Chris am I able to save one of my feats and leave it blank and then when I hit Level 2 can I make use of it?
Chris am I able to save one of my feats and leave it blank and then when I hit Level 2 can I make use of it?
I don't think this is "Rules Kosher", and I think Chris addressed it a few posts ago:
Can I keep the feat spot blank, meet the requirements and then use the "saved" feat from level 1 to use at level 2 when the requirements are met????
Neither, I'm afraid. Yor character can take a feat as soon as she has (a) met all the prerequisites, and then (b) gained a level with an appropriate open feat slot.So you may have to wait till 3rd Level to take a feat for which your character would have met all the prerequisites at 2nd Level.
I second that about messing with when Feats are chosen,
I don't think anybody needs to get too hung up on specific feats, it's better to just have a solid character Profile together so Chris can plan an exciting adventure that all the characters fit into...
There's plenty of decent Feats besides... Improved Initiative never hurt anyone.
I totally missed his answer! No problem like Quand stated there are plenty of good feats available....
To update:
Larcifer ........ Sachiko, human (Tian Xia) barbarian / sorcerer, buying her way out of slavery
Quandray ........ Yalka Kross-Dorm, human (Kellid) barbarian princess
niel ............ Milos Orislav, human (Varisian) cleric of Gozreh
Gavgoyle ........ Martaug CrowsGizzard, half-orc druid, vermin-buddy
Wandslinger ..... Kara Silvertongue, human (Taldan) fighter, nicest sellsword you'd ever want to meet
Valdisara ....... Valdisara, half-elf paladin, searching for her family
Cacosphinx ...... Grumblenaught, dwarven ranger, mountaineer
Deserach ........ Deserach, human (Keleshite) conjurer, wandering scholar
Fax ............. Zosimus, human (Varisian) diviner, going to redeem his homeland
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Heya GM Chris got a quick question for you about my character. I have been reading the PF campaign setting and came across a feat that represents what I have been scouring all of my d20 books (close to 1000 books) to find, and I found it in the section covering Varisia (PF campaign setting pg 147 sidebar), specifically the Varisian Tattoo feat, now obviously I am not from Varisia so would it be ok to change my character up a bit, specifically origin and human racial stock so that I can take the feat, or more preferably but less likely a variant feat that stems from the ancient Osirian culture?
Anyway no on both is fine, just looking to make the uber-focused conjuration specialist.
Sachiko is almost done will be up tommorow. thx for the patience and yes chris sachiko can stay behind at the city while I am away...
Heya GM Chris got a quick question. [I found] the Varisian Tattoo feat; now obviously I am not from Varisia so would it be ok to change my character up a bit, specifically origin and human racial stock so that I can take the feat, or more preferably but less likely a variant feat that stems from the ancient Osirian culture?
Anyway no on both is fine, just looking to make the uber-focused conjuration specialist.
In order to have the Varisian Tattoo, you would need Deserach (the PC) to be either (a) a Varisia native, or (b) a character with some background in Varisia, or who's developed a contact among the Varisian arcane community, either of which might be represented by a Trait.
(The Varisia native option strikes me as a fairly fundamental change, going from a cosmopolitan, portly, well-off conjurer to a gypsy conjurer. But play the character that makes you happy.)
Oh, and a question for both you and Valdisara: I'm going to refer to your PC's by name, and every so often it'll be useful to refer to you as a player. (As in "Gee, it's been five days since Fax last posted.")
I'd rather have some sort of monicker for you as a player other than "Deserach's player".
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Would it fit your character to have spent some time in Korvosa? If you were spending some time learing within the city, you might have been exposed to the tattooing tradion and decided to explore it...
In a game that never really took off, I had a character who didn't like the sinister bend of the Academae and went to one of the smaller mystical schools in Korvosa where he was exposed to the Varisian Tattoo tradition and took it as one of his feats. Would require DM blessing, but might be a venue.
Would it fit your character to have spent some time in Korvosa? Would require DM blessing, but might be a venue.
I'd be fine with that, too.
GM Chris,
I was unable to pick up the Second Darkness Companion, so I've been scaning some of the threads dealing with Traits. It seems within the intended power limits to have a trait give a new class skill (and possibly +1 to that skill). So may I propose:
Trait= Brother to Acrobats: Raised within a group of acrobats, the characters' constant exposure to their skills has allowed him to add Acrobatics to his list of class skills (And gives a +1 to that skill?).
It fits in with my character story.
We've started over in the main thread.
As I posted there, if we're not in combat, and if there's an obvious attribute or skill roll your PC needs to attempt, I'll go ahead and do that for you, to keep the game moving. If you want to try something out-of-the-ordinary, or when we're in combat, I'd want you to roll the virtual dice.
(Since there's no Action Points mechanics in Pathfinder, I don't think I'm taking away any options.)
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Would it fit your character to have spent some time in Korvosa? Would require DM blessing, but might be a venue.I'd be fine with that, too.
Oh yeah I had forgotten that you only needed to spend a years time in a region to qualify for regional feats. I will take that option under the premise that after my formal training as a wizard in Absalom I traveled to Korvosa to continue more specialized tutelage under the eyes of a Specialized summoner. I will also put a rank in Knowledge: local (Varisia) to support this background. Expect a background journal entry going over these travels in the near future.
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As I posted there, if we're not in combat, and if there's an obvious attribute or skill roll your PC needs to attempt, I'll go ahead and do that for you, to keep the game moving. If you want to try something out-of-the-ordinary, or when we're in combat, I'd want you to roll the virtual dice.
Speaking as a PbP n00b here, how exactly do you want to handle this? I roll a physical die and report that in ooc? Or some online method?
And you might have studied at the Academae, actually--they're known as being one of the best summoning schools about. You'd have to escape from them somehow, though, as I don't think they let people leave prior to completing the coursework or not.
Oh, and a question for both you and Valdisara: I'm going to refer to your PC's by name, and every so often it'll be useful to refer to you as a player. (As in "Gee, it's been five days since Fax last posted.")I'd rather have some sort of monicker for you as a player other than "Deserach's player".
You can call me Kelly OOC :)
can anyone tell me what we r doing about Hitpoints?
You can me Colin, also, if you'd like...
When I started my account here, I couldn't figure out how to post with my account name, so I made up this alias :-)
Can anyone tell me what we are doing about hit points?
For the first level: maximum class hit points, Constitution bonus, and bonus racial hit points. (For humans like Sachiko, that's an extra six hit points).
For additional levels, half-maximum hit points (round up), plus Constitution bonus. (For sorcerers with a Constitution of 12, that would be 4+1 = 5 points.) At each level in your favored class, you can take an additional single hit point or skill point.
Edited because Quandary can actually look things up.
"In addition, you get a number of bonus hit points based on your race. The frail races (elf, gnome, and halfling) receive 4 hit points. The standard races (half-elf and human) receive 6 hit points. The hardy races (dwarf and half-orc) receive 8 hit points."
Thanks for the HP info Sachiko is finished Chris please puruse at your leisure. If anyone sees a mistake please let me know.
I glanced over Sachiko's profile:
Beta[/B]]Starting at 1st level, a barbarian gains a number of rage points equal to 4 + her Constitution modifier. At each level after 1st, she gains an additional number of rage points equal to 2 + her Constitution modifier.
I was surprised to see her 18 STR, I thought she was weak or normal outside of her Demonic Rage...
For Size, it's better to list her actual height and weight, which is important if you need to be carried, or are riding a decrepit donkey, or we're crossing a rickety bridge. (Human=Medium is assumable)You don't need the word-for-word description of the Racial bonus traits, just list their effects where appropriate (like you indicated the Favored Class). In your Feats, just indicate one is a Bonus Feat. You could show how your total Skill Points are derived, though I justed listed my total Skill Points.
If you want, I can send you the "source" for Yalka's profile, who's also a Barbarian, so it's already set up for a dual-Strength scenario [I bracket out all my Rage STR Bonus effects like this]. It also has some details you're missing that Chris would probably appreciate, you'd just need to edit it to reflect Sachiko's specifics.
(I can't post it here because all the formatting is interpreted by the boards, but I can email it to you as straight text. Let me know if you're interested.)
OK Poppy :-)
Pretty quickly,
you should include your BAB (though if you only take Fighter/Warrior levels, that's easy),
and definetely your CMB (even if YOU don't try maneuvers, Chris can)
...otherwise, you should figure out what your different load amounts are (Lt, Med, Hvy, Max) from your Strength, and what your current encumbrance is, which even if it's Light, you want to know your total load in case you need to carry other heavy stuff.
I think Martaug is ready for DM blessings.
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Hmm you could call me Rema...and Deserach is complete and ready to go, we are waiting until September to officially kick of still right? Either way is fine, I am on vacation until the 31st so posting will be a bit sporadic until then.
edit: Oops looks like we have started, sorry for my slow reaction will be more diligent with my posting from here on out.
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Hmm you could call me Rema...and Deserach is complete and ready to go, we are waiting until September to officially kick of still right? Either way is fine, I am on vacation until the 31st so posting will be a bit sporadic until then.
edit: Oops looks like we have started, sorry for my slow reaction will be more diligent with my posting from here on out.
Don't worry about it. Indeed, I'd given the first of the month as a start-date goal, but we got through character generation a little faster than I'd expected. I still expect this first week to be fairly slow-paced. Post when you can.
Items added. Thanks for the look!
Just realized that I had posted everything *but* my character's history/backstory, which I've only referenced obliquely in play posts.
Will remedy that ASAP, with my apologies!
Here I was wondering why poor Grumble wasn't getting much in the way of spoiler tags regarding the local area, which he is familiar with.
Perhaps I need to take Knowledge (Local) for that? The quick lookup I did re: Knowledge (Local) vs. Knowledge (Geography) led me to believe that Geography was more appropriate, tho my first instinct was Knowledge (Local)... GM Chris, any thoughts on the matter?
K-Local is useful for
Here I was wondering why poor Grumble wasn't getting much in the way of spoiler tags regarding the local area, which he is familiar with.Perhaps I need to take Knowledge (Local) for that? The quick lookup I did re: Knowledge (Local) vs. Knowledge (Geography) led me to believe that Geography was more appropriate, tho my first instinct was Knowledge (Local)... GM Chris, any thoughts on the matter?
- local histories (that's the bridge off which Julos Stauffen drowned his first wife fifty years ago),
- local geographic sites (the caves where young hobgoblins go for their traditional first night of passion? Up at the bend in the river.)
- local religious movements, political figures, economic changes, and
- anything else that someone would learn, being active in an area for several years.
I rule that it's almost useless outside of its locality, except as fodder for bardic tales.
K-Geography is useful anywhere you go. You recognize
- that this is the type of riverbed that floods quickly,
- that this woman's tattoo marks her as one of the hemetic slaves of the Blood Lords of Geb,
- these mosses indicate that the temperature in this area never drops below freezing,
- that while the masked horsemen are dressed as Varisians, it's Shoanti who follow the customs they're exhibiting, and
- that, in the River Kingdoms, that string of black-and-white pearls around this woman's neck suggests she's capable of a great divine fury. (while K-Religion would be able to recognize a Favored Soul of Gyronna).
And, um, Grumblenaught's been getting few spoilers because the topics that have been coming up have just fallen through the cracks of his generally solid knowledge. (Which is to say, low rolls.)
Orislav, have you determined that second feat and trait yet?
Will you accept the trait I proposed? If so I'll take that and the feat that gives extra 'channel energy'.
(repeated to save looking it up)
Trait= Brother to Acrobats: Raised within a group of acrobats, the characters' constant exposure to their skills has allowed him to add Acrobatics to his list of class skills (And gives a +1 to that skill?).
Otherwise its skill focus (acrobatics) and Reflex +1
The other bit I'm still missing is defining the free martial weapon prof from human. I was hoping for something cool from the Golarion setting, but my flgs hasn't gotten it yet.
If yall can give me a suggestion, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise I'm leaning towards Ranseur for the lightning rod side effect.
K-Local is useful for
GM Chris, any thoughts on the matter?
- local histories (that's the bridge off which Julos Stauffen drowned his first wife fifty years ago),
- local geographic sites (the caves where young hobgoblins go for their traditional first night of passion? Up at the bend in the river.)
- local religious movements, political figures, economic changes, and
- anything else that someone would learn, being active in an area for several years.
I rule that it's almost useless outside of its locality, except as fodder for bardic tales.
And, um, Grumblenaught's been getting few spoilers because the topics that have been coming up have just fallen through the cracks of his generally solid knowledge. (Which is to say, low rolls.)
Given the items outlined above, would it be kosher if I switched my Knowledge (Geography) to Knowledge (Local)? It'd not be a Class Skill, but it would indeed reflect Grumble's (fairly provincial) backstory far better than the other. My bad for misinterpreting or not clarifying. :(
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Will you accept the trait I proposed? If so I'll take that and the feat that gives extra 'channel energy'.
Sure; I must have decided that it was fine and forgotten
The other bit I'm still missing is defining the free martial weapon prof from human. I was hoping for something cool from the Golarion setting, but my flgs hasn't gotten it yet.
If yall can give me a suggestion, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise I'm leaning towards Ranseur for the lightning rod side effect.
The new martial weapons on page 209 of the Campaign Setting include:
Light Melee- Dosglicer
- Star-knife
- War-razor
1-Hand Melee
- Klar
2-Hand Melee
- Earth-breaker
- Horse-chopper
- Ogre Hook
- Osirian khopesh
Would it be kosher if I switched my Knowledge (Geography) to Knowledge (Local)? It'd not be a Class Skill, but it would indeed reflect Grumble's (fairly provincial) backstory far better than the other.
Not a problem. If you think he knows his way around caves, you might consider giving him Knowledge (Dungeoneering) as well, once he reaches second level.
That's a good explanation of K(Local/Geography), Chris.
I hadn't thought of the more "social" geography uses, and how they pseudo-overlap...
When Beta's Skills come up for feedback, if you want to share your interpretation of those,
I think it could help improve the Rulebook descriptions of those skills...
+ It seems like Local should be CHA based, since it more represents hearing stuff thru talking with many people,
in a way that high INT/low CHA "knows" alot, but is still "clueless"
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It seems like Local should be CHA based, since it more represents hearing stuff thru talking with many people,
in a way that high INT/low CHA "knows" alot, but is still "clueless"
I could see WIS-based (that is, paying attention to people, like Sense Motive), but it's just a measure of how much stuff, most of it trivial, a character knows about this locale. Good tour guides have great Knowledge (Local) and good Charisma. Your tedious aunt who regales you with "the goings-on with that Dobbins family, back when they lived in the house down by the cemetary, oh that must have been back in the 40's, because the old firehouse was still standing..." has gobs of Knowledge (Local) and no Charisma to speak of.
Skill choice changed and updated in Grumble's profile.
I'll likely take only one rank in Knowledge (Dungeoneering) next level, since Grumble much prefers high, craggy places to deep, crampy places, but should have at least some basic knowledge of them.
Speaking of skill use, is there any possibility of you adding an OOC item to your posts to indicate when you've used a skill for us? I'm not interested in seeing the numbers at all, just the occasions that entail a roll, unless it's too much trouble or disruption.
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Speaking of skill use, is there any possibility of you adding an OOC item to your posts to indicate when you've used a skill for us? I'm not interested in seeing the numbers at all, just the occasions that entail a roll, unless it's too much trouble or disruption.
I think that's doable, sure.
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Hello, friends.
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I've plugged everybody's Pathfinder combat stats into one spreadsheet, and everybody's skills into another. (Hint: if Orislav or one of the wizards wanted to switch a skill point into Appraise, so that somebody in the party had it, I'd allow that.)
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I'll be in Shakopee Minnesota, playing Renaissance music, all weekend long. I'll try to check in and see how things are going, but my 'net access will be sporadic till Tuesday. Feel free to have in-character discussions, as you please, but kindly refrain from setting the NPC's on fire.
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As I mentioned at the beginning of my Gamer Connection thread, this campaign is my first attempt at running a play-by-post. I am open to questions, advice, suggestions, comments, polite expressions of rage, or concerns.
Some time over the next week or so, I want to learn how to create maps (with MapTool, I suspect) and post them for people to see. Do you know of any posting site (Flickr, etc.) that you personally can't access?