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There have been a few topics that included the idea of racial feats so i would like to propose that those who are interested in this actually suggest ideas for them (so as not to make the designers do all the hard work :D).

Personally i like the idea of using racial feat chains and my first suggestion would be to enable these races to partially or totally mimic the racial prestige classes for example.

Arcane Archer:
This prestige class is elf and half elf specific but is rarely used as it (in my opinion) is badly constructed so how about a feat chain an elven wizard could take to let him cast spells with his bow keeping the archetype of an arcane archer without needing to move away from wizard as a class

Similar could be done with a dwarven defender and any other (can't think of any ogl ones) racial classes as well as creating new ones to fit the other roles such races normally fill.

Scarab Sages

Rob Heath wrote:
There have been a few topics that included the idea of racial feats so i would like to propose that those who are interested in this actually suggest ideas for them (so as not to make the designers do all the hard work :D).

I was thinking something like this:

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= Dwarven Racial Feats =

Dwarven Leader [Racial]

Prerequisite: Dwarf, character level 4

Benefit: Select one skill from the fighter class skill list. You gain a +4 racial bonus to checks made using this skill. This skill is always considered a class skill for you.

Dwarven Hero [Racial]

Prerequisite: Dwarf, Dwarven Leader, character level 8

Benefit: Channeling your enmity for racial enemies, you gain an additional +1 bonus on attack rolls against humanoid creatures of the orc and goblin subtype.

Dwarven Paragon [Racial]

Prerequisite: Dwarf, Dwarven Leader, Dwarven Hero, character level 12

Benefit: Select either Constitution or Wisdom. The selected ability score increases by 2.

= Elven Racial Feats =

Elven Leader [Racial]

Prerequisite: Elf, character level 4

Benefit: Select one skill from the wizard class skill list. You gain a +4 racial bonus to checks made using this skill. This skill is always considered a class skill for you.

Elven Hero [Racial]

Prerequisite: Elf, Elven Leader, character level 8

Benefit: Select one cantrip from the Wizard spell list. You may cast this cantrip at will as a spell-like ability.

Elven Paragon [Racial]

[b]Prerequisite: Elf, Elven Leader, Elven Hero, character level 12

[b]Benefit: Select either Dexterity or Intelligence. The selected ability score increases by 2.

= Half Orc Racial Feats =

Half Orc Leader [Racial]

Prerequisite: Half Orc, character level 4

Benefit: Select one skill from the barbarian class skill list. You gain a +4 racial bonus to checks made using this skill. This skill is always considered a class skill for you.

Half Orc Hero [Racial]

Prerequisite: Half Orc, Half Orc Leader, character level 8

Benefit: Channeling your innate ferocity, you gain the ability to fly into a screaming blood frenzy once per day (or one additional time per day, if you already have a rage ability).

Half Orc Paragon [Racial]

Prerequisite: Half Orc, Half Orc Leader, Half Orc Hero, character level 12

Benefit: Select either Strength or Wisdom. The selected ability score increases by 2.

( and so on )

The Half Orc is based on the Half Orc Paragon levels from UA, the others I just threw in for demonstration. I'd like to see a good handful of feats for each race, tying into either the flavor of the race's favored class, or the race's existing abilities as given in the race description. One feat might allow a dwarf to treat any weapon with the word “dwarven” in its name as a simple weapon rather than martial (and same for the other races). I wouldn't so much want racial feats that branch out in new and different directions.

For anything related to the favored class, it should be available to any character of the race but be especially suited to the favored class. The +1 HP for taking levels in a favored class seemed cool at first read, but I've read some of the comments opposed to an automatic penalty or bonus related to a race's favored class and would suggest using racial feats instead to both boost existing racial abilities and support a race's favored class.


Grrtigger, I like the racial feats you have a lot. I think the stat ones are too powerful for level 12 feats, considering the only other way to get inherent bumps to stats is high level magic or books (the +2 books cost 55,000g, while feats are supposed to be worth about 10,000g. Even if you consider that they're chains of feats, it's still too good I think). I'd also suggest making the first ones 1st level feats, so people can max out those skills if they're not whatever the race's favored class is. An elven ranger might want to max out Knowledge (Arcana) and s/he won't be able to if it only becomes a class skill starting at level 4.

Scarab Sages

Melissa Litwin wrote:
Grrtigger, I like the racial feats you have a lot.

Thanks :D

These were really just sketched out quickly to put the idea out there, I haven't had a chance to seriously tinker with appropriate benefits by race and favored class, but would love to see something more fleshed out along these lines for every core race.

Melissa Litwin wrote:
I think the stat ones are too powerful for level 12 feats

Generally, yes, but in this case the idea is based on the Racial Paragon classes in Unearthed Arcana, each of which offers a +2 stat boost at 3rd level. It's also somewhat less unbalanced in that you have to take two other feats as prerequisites, and even with the increased feat progression of Pathfinder RPG (which I love, btw) it's still a big investment for the benefit.

Melissa Litwin wrote:
I'd also suggest making the first ones 1st level feats, so people can max out those skills if they're not whatever the race's favored class is.

Yeah, you always think of that stuff later ;)

I'm also thinking it might be better to change the "+4 to any skill from class skill list" to "+2 to two skills from class skill list" - this is similar to the other feats granting a +2 to two skills, but limited by race (and class skill list for the race's favored class) and the added benefit that the skills are always class skills for you.

Edit: regarding the character level pre-requisite for each feat, that was just one stab at a way to spread these out so they don't all get taken in a row. Although I suppose that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, I'd be inclined to find some way to have these play out over the full range of character levels rather than as the first three (or however many) feats selected.

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