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Thanks again. BTW, are you still working on your post-apocalyptic PBP?


I've tried making maps on GIMP and Photoshop, too, but Illustrator just beats them hands down for speed of use. It is designed to do exactly what I'm doing, as opposed to the others, which are used primarily for photography and are filled with features you don't need, and those features you do need are not quite as handy.

There are other vector art programs, I'm pretty sure Corel Draw would work for example, and it's cheaper.

Like I said, seeing a trial version and mucking around with it might be a really good idea. If you do get a copy of Illustrator I'll send you some of my files - seeing what a built up map looks like will give you a great head start.

Also, my maps are pretty simple. I don't bother with textures because it takes a lot of time to clean them up, so they have a cartoony look to them. I can't be bothered to build up the really suave look of the latest version of campaign cartographer. On the other hand, there are almost NO limits to what you can do with Illustrator whereas CC is limited by the imagination of the program's creators.


Radavel wrote:
Thanks again. BTW, are you still working on your post-apocalyptic PBP?

In the world of my imagination, yes. I'm pretty busy now so I haven't done anything solid yet. You gonna try Vissigoth's?

(I'd try his but two of his pbps have cratered already because he had no time.)


I guess GIMP and Campaign Cartographer 3 would also make a pretty good combo for pbps, but I can't really comment on what it'd be like to use them.

I bought Illustrator because I actually use it for art outside of gaming.


Male Humanoid Expert 2 / Magewright 1

Sorry to intrude; there is a skin for Gimp that provides a pseudo-Photoshop interface (gimpshop).

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Kruelaid wrote:
Radavel wrote:
Thanks again. BTW, are you still working on your post-apocalyptic PBP?

In the world of my imagination, yes. I'm pretty busy now so I haven't done anything solid yet. You gonna try Vissigoth's?

Already slated as one of the players. Hopefully we'll make something of it.


One last thing about Illustrator over CC3...

I don't think I could have done anything close to that cliffside map with CC3, and it would have taken a lot longer on Photoshop.


mwbeeler wrote:
Sorry to intrude; there is a skin for Gimp that provides a pseudo-Photoshop interface (gimpshop).

GIMP really is an awesome program. If I was starting over again I would probably have just stuck it out with GIMP. A lot of new features are being added on and it's getting pretty powerful.


Let me have a look... Male it would seem Giant Dwarf... yup Geek 8/Jock 4 (Am. Football)
Kruelaid wrote:

I've tried making maps on GIMP and Photoshop, too, but Illustrator just beats them hands down for speed of use. It is designed to do exactly what I'm doing, as opposed to the others, which are used primarily for photography and are filled with features you don't need, and those features you do need are not quite as handy.

There are other vector art programs, I'm pretty sure Corel Draw would work for example, and it's cheaper.

Like I said, seeing a trial version and mucking around with it might be a really good idea. If you do get a copy of Illustrator I'll send you some of my files - seeing what a built up map looks like will give you a great head start.

Also, my maps are pretty simple. I don't bother with textures because it takes a lot of time to clean them up, so they have a cartoony look to them. I can't be bothered to build up the really suave look of the latest version of campaign cartographer. On the other hand, there are almost NO limits to what you can do with Illustrator whereas CC is limited by the imagination of the program's creators.

As you've mentioned several times, the open source likeness of Photoshop is GIMP.

There's also an open source likeness of Illustrator called Inkscape.
If you want to dive into 3D there's Blender.
A great resource for finding open source alternatives to commercial programs is Open Source Alternative


I didn't know about Inkscape. I'm gonna check that one out.

Open Source Alternative... awesome.


You guys are 100 XP from 3rd level. Alpha 3 is out next week so lets just keep collecting XP and level up after it is released.

Agreed?

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M fine wid dat

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Male Dworc (half-dwarf/half-orc) Monk4/Barbarian2/Rogue2/Jack-of-all-Trades2/Master of None2/Quasi-diety2

Sounds gud to me!


Those XPs make everyone 3rd level. Alpha 3 comes out this week. Feel free to retcon if you please. Skills are all changed so I guess that's going to be the biggest change for most of you.

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3rd level, alright! :D

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Radavel wrote:
3rd level, alright! :D

Yea!


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

Most agreeable.


Male Human Sorceror 3 EXP-3450

Hey could someone look at my skills and tell me if they are right, and if not how I screwed up. I have no confidence in my understanding of the skill system.


M Human Wizard 3

Updated.


Aref Sami Shahrokh wrote:
Hey could someone look at my skills and tell me if they are right, and if not how I screwed up. I have no confidence in my understanding of the skill system.

I'm kind of anal about figuring out my own PCs, but as a DM I'm a little lazy... I've never gone through your characters to make sure they add up. Sometimes I notice if something is WAY off, but otherwise I usually miss errors. My policy is that I just like to read the fluff and leave the rest up to you.

So, I'll try and have a look, but if something is amiss I can't promise I'll catch it.


Regarding the latest spoiler:

"I love it when a plan comes together!"

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Kruelaid, I'll update my character later. Have a lot of things to do at present. Thanks for your patience.


Radavel wrote:
Kruelaid, I'll update my character later. Have a lot of things to do at present. Thanks for your patience.

No worries.

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Kruelaid, I might not be able to post in the next couple of days. I'm coming down with the flu. Please do not hesitate to NPC the Deceiver. Thanks for your patience.


NP, get well soon!


Let me have a look... Male it would seem Giant Dwarf... yup Geek 8/Jock 4 (Am. Football)

My internet has been down for the last day or two, roughly, so I haven't been able to update my character sheet yet. I'll do it tonight after I've had a look at Alpha 3, no reason to mess with e.g. the skills if I have to redo it all over again after seeing Alpha 3.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

ALERT ALERT!

I shall be away from the boards from 24 May to 2 June.

THAT IS ALL, CITIZEN.


And here I was just gonna ask you if everything was ok with you only posting twice in the last week!

DMNPC Syd NP.


Male Human - dash of elf Miniature painter/ Heroic

OK FYI

Work has been very busy this week, so my brain has been fried for PBP purposes. That and I was in work 9am to 10pm on Monday...

I'm off to the States for a holiday, which rocks.


FabesMinis wrote:

OK FYI

Work has been very busy this week, so my brain has been fried for PBP purposes. That and I was in work 9am to 10pm on Monday...

I'm off to the States for a holiday, which rocks.

Understood, np!

Have a great time, bro!


Let me have a look... Male it would seem Giant Dwarf... yup Geek 8/Jock 4 (Am. Football)

We're just dropping like flies around here it seems. I've managed to get a middle ear infection and is doped up on pain meds, but I'll try my best to continue posting.


Don't worry bout it GG.

Rad's sick, you're sick, Fabes is on vacation, and it looks like Shiny is going to retire from the boards.


Let me have a look... Male it would seem Giant Dwarf... yup Geek 8/Jock 4 (Am. Football)
Kruelaid wrote:
... and it looks like Shiny is going to retire from the boards.

Huh???

Edit: Just found the thread

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GentleGiant wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
... and it looks like Shiny is going to retire from the boards.

Huh???

Edit: Just found the thread

Adios.

Oh, you found it.
I think it may be more than just 'retiring from the boards' but I know the language of his post has me worried.


Let me have a look... Male it would seem Giant Dwarf... yup Geek 8/Jock 4 (Am. Football)
Fake Healer wrote:
GentleGiant wrote:
Kruelaid wrote:
... and it looks like Shiny is going to retire from the boards.

Huh???

Edit: Just found the thread

Adios.

Oh, you found it.
I think it may be more than just 'retiring from the boards' but I know the language of his post has me worried.

Yeah, me too.

Of course, we know that he has had some problems with the parent models, so it might be related to that (i.e. no internet access).
Keeping my fingers crossed it's something trivial like that (which can be remedied fairly "easy").


Shiny posted from work... so firing his job may be part of this.

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For Kruelaid

Spoiler:
I'm still interested in Z-day.


Tobus Neth wrote:
05/10-05/26

You changed yous avatar. Yous back! Where yous hidin'!


Male Human 17thFighter

Well indeed you notice! good sir I am back in the world of computers!.
Woot! Maine was a blast!

Kruelaid can you give me a run down of whats going on....

We returned yesterday to bags mail, leaking refrige, a hive of bald faced hornets and burrowing animal lives in our garden....

What the latest on 4e!


Tobus Neth wrote:

Well indeed you notice! good sir I am back in the world of computers!.

Woot! Maine was a blast!

Kruelaid can you give me a run down of whats going on....

We returned yesterday to bags mail, leaking refrige, a hive of bald faced hornets and burrowing animal lives in our garden....

What the latest on 4e!

Glad you had fun.

4E is leaked on the net.

The Dead Reckoning game is on hiatus because Shiny is going on the road soul searching and won't be posting, GG has been sick, and Fabes is on vacation. Feel free to start posting when you have time again and we'll get her rolling.

Everyone is in the main chamber waiting to breach either the north-east or north-west door.

You need to level up to 3rd. Skills in Alpha 3 are all different. No hurry, Ian is still trying to figure them out and hasn't posted Jon's 3rd level stats yet.... I'm not sure about the others.

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Male Dworc (half-dwarf/half-orc) Monk4/Barbarian2/Rogue2/Jack-of-all-Trades2/Master of None2/Quasi-diety2

Still working through the Alpha 3 rules......haven't gotten to fully updating skills yet.....My OCD of reading a book from front to back is kicked in so I can't read the skills yet.......must find more time to read......why am I typing in a series of short sentences connected with periods.........answer to follow.....


I just downloaded a summary of changes.

And I refuse to print the damn thing.

Truth be told I really don't care if your characters are all wrong...

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Kruelaid wrote:


Truth be told I really don't care if your characters are all wrong...

I spoken like a true DM. That is a compliment, btw. :D


The Deceiver's theme song.

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Male Dworc (half-dwarf/half-orc) Monk4/Barbarian2/Rogue2/Jack-of-all-Trades2/Master of None2/Quasi-diety2
The Deceiver wrote:
The Deceiver's theme song.

Too funny! The Band is good!(the singer sucks though)


lol

Liberty's Edge

I am a Deceiver, yeah!
I am a Deciever, yeah!
I'll rip your mind out, I'll burn your soul!
I'll turn you into me, I'll turn you into me,
Yeah, I'm a Deceiver, yeah! Deceiver, Deceiver, Deceiver!


I really identify with you so much!

Hehe.

I love Henry.


GG, I see you're back. Hope you're feeling better!

Bohdan is reading inscriptions in the main chamber with Pulsifer.

You guys can enter the north east hall if you're feeling up to playing it.

If not no worries, I'll scale it for the three.


Let me have a look... Male it would seem Giant Dwarf... yup Geek 8/Jock 4 (Am. Football)

Hey guys, sorry for going MIA for a while. My RAM kicked it the other day and I'm waiting for a new block to arrive so I can actually boot up my computer again. Don't you just LOVE unforeseen (and expensive) expenses?
It should arrive tomorrow or Tuesday. Currently posting this from a friend's place.

EDIT: Hey! Broke the 500 post virginity of this thread!

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