Do any of the Greyhawk experts here know the parents of Hextor and Heironeous? I know they are half-brothers and originally Oeridian, but don't even know if they have the same mother or the same father.
My group is about to start asking about this, and I have no idea what the answers are.
This is just something you have to make up. Here's my take:
Heironeous is the offspring of (a once much less and evil or miserable) Wee Jas and Pelor. However for mysterious reasons (actually not so much mysterious as a realllly long story that digresses quite a bit) Pelor spurned Wee jas and turned her out. Wee Jas went to some neutral or evil god (like Obid hai or Nerull) for support and he seduced her, then abandoned her) She thus became pregnant with Hextor and alone, had to raise him alone.
A bummer really, but it explains why Wee Jas and Hextor would be the way they are.
we know the mom, at least:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heironeous
In which of the sources is Stern Alia mentioned as his mother ?
Actually, that makes sense. Stern Alia is an Oerdian demigod with the portfolio of Oerdian culture, law, and motherhood. Her holy symbol is an Oerdian woman's face. She is Lawful Neutral (with some Evil tendancies; I guess Hextor was the favored son). Her favored weapon is the heavy mace and she grants the domains of Knowledge, Law, and Protection (plus Inquisition if you have the Complete Divine).
As for their father, I suggest Pholtus, an Intermediate deity who is so stiffly aligned with Law that he views St. Cuthbert as a party child. Look in the Complete Divine for more on Pholtus.
Never heard of Stern Alia, where can you find out about her?
However the 2Hs are half- brothers which mean they either have the same father or the same mother but not both.
By explanation has one good side though, no spending another frigging $40.0 on a book to get some answers.
Well, I just found an old Canonfire article (by none other than Eric Mona) that mentions Stern Alia. Apparently, one of the pregenerated characters from Forgotten Shrine of Tamoachan worshipped Stern Alia.
Mr. Mona expanded this reference, making Stern Alia one of the gods imprisoned by Zagig beneath Castle Greyhawk. She was in Oeridian myth as "a once-mortal imbued with the seed that begat Hextor and Heironeous."
Since most of Mr. Mona's stuff about Greyhawk has been turned into canon, I would say we have the mother.
Since they are only half-brothers, this still leaves a few questions. Was the "seed that begat" them from different fathers, or was she only the mother of one of them and this "seed" was also imbued in another woman?
I got all my information on Stern Alia (and all the other Greyhawk gods) on the Living Greyhawk site on WotC. The link you want (it's a pdf in a zip file) is in the sidebar on the right, "Living Greyhawk Deities v.2.0". I took the time to transfer all of the essential information in this document into an Excel sheet. If you want it, email me at thanis.kartaleon at gmail.com
Check out these threads:
H&H's parentage discussion on Canonfire
and another one on WotC
and this one on ENWorld where Erik chimes in.
Also see this nice thread for more Deific genealogies by Rip Van Wormer (link to follow, wotc boards are down currently)
Do any of the Greyhawk experts here know the parents of Hextor and Heironeous? ...
Evidently Dragon #287 mentions Stern Alia the Shield Mother and her sons, including Heironeous and Hextor.
Beyond that, I don't like the idea of encyclopedic knowledge existing on such figures -- I'd say the fathers' identities are lost to legend.
My two cents :)
Jack
PS -- don't go thinking I'm a 'Greyhawk expert' :)
All right, after reading the discussions on other boards, I think I am going to go with Stern Alia being the mother of both, an obscure, unreliable folk-tale of a lost third LN brother (a reference to Stratus from the Chainmail game), and the identity of the fathers is lost to time.
Although I did come up with a story to account for the fathers last night. It basically involved an god whose name is lost that is now dead working to stop Erythnul. Erythnul and his followers found out about this and attempted to destroy this god. The unnamed god's essense split into several aspects, essentially making him be more than one being in one body. Before he split apart and dissipated, he and Stern Alia attempted to have a child with the intention of this child becoming the god of war and stopping Erythnul once and for all. Unfortunately his multiple aspects fathered separate children, causing them to be half-brothers (since each aspect was a separate being) with different takes on the waging of war.
Check out these threads:
H&H's parentage discussion on Canonfire
and another one on WotC
and this one on ENWorld where Erik chimes in.Also see this nice thread for more Deific genealogies by Rip Van Wormer (link to follow, wotc boards are down currently)
Here's the link ot the thread Anybody know of a GH deities family tree? on WotC boards
