A Purely Hypothetical Question Concerning Dragon / Dungeon and Paizo


Dragon and Dungeon Transition Discussion


I'm curious. Let's say that several years have gone by, and the DI is not performing as well as Wizards had hoped it would, and they decided to outsource the magazines again. Would Paizo even consider going back to these great mags? Or would it be another third party publisher?

I know that the likelihood of this is pretty much nil, but I'd love to hear what the fine people of Paizo think... If they are able to.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Hypothetically speaking... the chances of this happening are, unfortunately, pretty much nil. The chances of Paizo being involved in something like this are even lower.


But the real question is: In this purely hypothetical world, would you even be interested in picking the reigns back up, were they offered to you?

Scarab Sages

Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

I think you got the real answer my friend. Lower than practically nil.

If it were my company - after getting the rug pulled out from me once and then developing a new product to replace the magazines that is successful and has a following from day one. I do not believe I would drop all that and step back onto the rug - or even continue my new products hire more staff (we know these guys have been waaaay overworked since the announcement that the magazines were going away) and stupping back onto the rug.

From a business, morale and personnel standpoint it does not make sense to my business mind.

Remember - these companies create wonderful products for us to use in our games but they are still companies and the bottom line is there are in business. They may be doing what they love but they have to pay the bills and feed their families.

To the Paizo Staff: Thank you for hanging in there with us and creating some of the best gaming products I have seen in my 25 years of gaming.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

David Witanowski wrote:
But the real question is: In this purely hypothetical world, would you even be interested in picking the reigns back up, were they offered to you?

In that hypothetical world... I would probably not be interested. After working on Pathfinder and the GameMastery products and tasting the POWER of being able to do what we want and not having to get approval from a license holder... well... it's hard to think about going back.

That said... working on Dungeon was really really fun. So who knows? Hypothetical James would have to think long and hard on the actual answer to this question.


~grins~ Well, at least you are being hypothetically honest with us! We hypothetically appreciate it.

(I completely understand. Some good thing that you all wanted to do had to be shelved or discarded because WotC did not approve or agree at times. Who wants to go back to that. But I would love to see a rebirth of Dragon and Dungeon magazine. I do know that I would still be keeping my Pathfinder, GameMastery, and Kobold Quarterly subscription, however.)


Thanks for your candid answer James. I think knowing that you wouldn't go back even if it was an option gives me some closure on the subject.


I'd wondered this myself. If that were the case, hypothetically, I would respect that decision... hypothetically, of course
;)


James Jacobs wrote:
Hypothetically speaking... the chances of this happening are, unfortunately, pretty much nil...

Can you elaborate on this? Why is a reversal by WotC so unlikely?


Were this scenario ever to occur, which if Dungeon and Dragon failed in their electronic mode, I think WOTC would first, cancel the internet version and mags all together. They would later start a new magazine, with a new title. I might be wrong, but I don't think they would swallow their pride on this one.

If they did offer it out, they would find someone other than Paizo. In part because if they offered it, it would most likely be turned down. In addition, they could easily find another publisher who's trying to get a good start and give it to them, with less money involved as well.

Dark Archive Contributor

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:

Were this scenario ever to occur, which if Dungeon and Dragon failed in their electronic mode, I think WOTC would first, cancel the internet version and mags all together. They would later start a new magazine, with a new title. I might be wrong, but I don't think they would swallow their pride on this one.

If they did offer it out, they would find someone other than Paizo. In part because if they offered it, it would most likely be turned down. In addition, they could easily find another publisher who's trying to get a good start and give it to them, with less money involved as well.

Those are good assumptions, I think. Magazines cost a LOT of money to start and it's a crappy industry to be in, so I think you're right about WotC wanting to offer the magazines to someone else. Probably a relatively large magazine company, like Wizard.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
I think WOTC would first, cancel the internet...

I love out-of-context quotes!

Dark Archive Contributor

Vic Wertz wrote:
EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
I think WOTC would first, cancel the internet...
I love out-of-context quotes!

LOL!!! ^_^

Vic, you get a cookie.


Sniff, sniff, nobody likes me.

Liberty's Edge

EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Sniff, sniff, nobody likes me.

You misunderstand: After a quote like that (yes, even taken completely out of context), we like you even more.


EileenProphetofIstus wrote:
Sniff, sniff, nobody likes me.

Now, now. *Eileen gets patted* Just ignore mean Vic, he is that way to everyone. We all like you over here.

Stefan


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

WotC can't cancel the internet...
Only Al Gore can cancel the internet.

Liberty's Edge

Stebehil wrote:
*Eileen gets patted*

Careful where you put those hands dude.


And I thought I was the one who was suppose to have the healing hands!


Those Europeans are pretty friendly. He's probably sitting at his computer naked, too.


Kruelaid wrote:
Those Europeans are pretty friendly. He's probably sitting at his computer naked, too.

HEY!

we call it skyclad.

or just creepy


ManPig wrote:

WotC can't cancel the internet...

Only Al Gore can cancel the internet.

Tell that to Chuck Norris!

-The Gneech

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