Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Vic Wertz wrote:DEAR GOD! That's 432 MILLION DOLLARS PER GALLON!I'm slightly worried now... "Vic Wertz (Technical Director)"
Clearly I forgot to factor in the coefficient of friction. See, this is what happens when I don't have the software I need. I'll put writing a euros-per-liter to dollars-per-gallon converter on Gary's to-do list.
Dextro Highland |
It cost me a $100 Canadian to fill up my mini-van the other day. On the bright side that is $104 American (as our dollar is now actually higher).
The best benifit for me is that it is now cheaper to order stuff from Paizo.
Gary Teter Senior Software Developer |
I'll put writing a euros-per-liter to dollars-per-gallon converter on Gary's to-do list.
Will Google do? I always like it better when someone else can write the code for me.
damnitall22 |
All I can say is we should blame WotC for the high gas prices. ~WEG~ We blame them for everything else.
Agreed, WotC should never have started WWI. Bunch of PR guys handling talks between Poland and Germany sucked.
(I have no idea if any part of the above is true.)
But it could be a funky time loop kinda thing.
Sharoth |
Sharoth wrote:All I can say is we should blame WotC for the high gas prices. ~WEG~ We blame them for everything else.Agreed, WotC should never have started WWI. Bunch of PR guys handling talks between Poland and Germany sucked.
(I have no idea if any part of the above is true.)
But it could be a funky time loop kinda thing.
Just do the time warp!
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
Vic Wertz wrote:I'll put writing a euros-per-liter to dollars-per-gallon converter on Gary's to-do list.Will Google do? I always like it better when someone else can write the code for me.
1.40 (Euros per liter) = 7.57150497 U.S. dollars per US gallon
But where the heck am I going to find .150497 cents???
Besides, Google totally won't convert it all to gp.
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny |
It cost me a $100 Canadian to fill up my mini-van the other day. On the bright side that is $104 American (as our dollar is now actually higher...
...which is scary in and of itself.
Anyway, my uncle sent more stuff.
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny |
Ha! I've got you beat... Yesterday a gallon was $8.78* here in Denmark!
I blame these guys.
Generation X-man |
Just a heads up. Oil reached $90 a barrel today. The local news predicted that the price of gas would take a steep jump sometime within the next day or two. I plan on filling everything up ASAP to save myself some money.
Actually, in a weird sort of way, I'm glad this is happening. Yes, it'll suck to pay more for the gas I have to have to get back and forth from work, but it's no more than people in other countries already have to pay. Yes, I hate that while we get poorer the oil companies get richer, but maybe...hopefully...this'll finally spark a real change in our own behavior leading to smaller, more efficient, less road-damaging vehicles plus the serious development of effective alternate fuels and less-polluting engines. Maybe not, but we can hope.
mwbeeler |
It sounds nice, but more likely what it will really do is force us to gobble up all available land not already covered by golf courses to grow corn for biofuel while the lower and middle class working poor starve to death. Then again, I’m jaded and cynical, and it’s just possible humanity will do the right thing for a change (not holding my breath though).
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As far as Paizo employees posting their own personal views, I say go for it. I’m mature enough to be able to separate personal and professional opinions.
Examples:
Vic and I do not see eye to eye on open gaming; not affecting my desire to purchase products.
The whole “bewbs” discussion makes me glad I married early in life. Affecting my desire to pick up Paizo merchandise? Nope.
I personally witnessed James club an Aye-Aye to death with a baby seal, and then his head split in half vertically and consumed them both.* Not affecting my Pathfinder subscription, though to be honest I didn’t eat dinner that day.
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Let's be honest with ourselves though. The problem isn't the fuels, or how bad they are, the problem is people refuse to use less.
Adam Daigle Director of Game Development |
Stebehil |
Stebehil wrote:Are you suggesting we need to pay more??Do you complain about fuel costs ?
Well, I filled my car yesterday, and had to pay for 68 liters about 95 Euros. At todays exchange rate, that would be around 135 US-$ (roughly 7.5 $ per Gallon). So, what are you complaining about?
(What good is an Autobahn without speed limits if you can´t afford to let your car go 120 mph?)Stefan
Well, I don´t know if you need to pay more. But if fuel costs about three times as much in Europe than in the US, complaining about high prices seems unwarranted to me. (Add car taxes and mandatory insurance, and I almost wonder that there are that many cars in germany.)
High fuel prices could lead car manufacturers to building more fuel-efficient cars, which is a good thing, as it reduces pollution in the long run (and only if the car gets used for a long time - building a car is not done without some degree of pollution as well). That these prices rest heavy on your purse is the downside, of course.
Stefan
magdalena thiriet |
Actually, in a weird sort of way, I'm glad this is happening. Yes, it'll suck to pay more for the gas I have to have to get back and forth from work, but it's no more than people in other countries already have to pay. Yes, I hate that while we get poorer the oil companies get richer, but maybe...hopefully...this'll finally spark a real change in our own behavior leading to smaller, more efficient, less road-damaging vehicles plus the serious development of effective alternate fuels and less-polluting engines. Maybe not, but we can hope.
Rest of the world (and you, in the long run) would appreciate this too.
firbolg |
Oh please- quit yer whinging that it costs so much to remain suckling on your petrol pump teat and welcome to the rest of the world.
Yer still paying way below the odds compared to other countries.
firbolg |
This just in: Enormous oil reserve discovered in Ireland!
Guess who's coming to dinner...
Oh hurrah, just what's needed, more plastic Leprechauns and Green Guinness.
In fairness, you're not far off; Shell has been getting a bloodied nose by trying to put a Gas pipeline though pristine countryside, which is a great testament to Irish Contrariness and sheer devilment- does my heart good.Kassil |
...Just to chime in, I'd like to note a few things...
- The price of oil isn't going down anytime soon. In fact, there's good evidence we're hitting the halfway point on the global reserves, even as demand continues growing. Best case estimates suggest approximately ten years before we hit the peak; this is in keeping with the Hubbert Curve (I believe that's the correct name...) of oil discovery and production.
- Roughly 90% of what first-world civilization consumes daily is oil-based, not just gasoline. Running out of oil would have a lot nastier effects than just the results of fuel prices and whatnot.
- For fans of nuclear power: First, the fuel used in reactors is a compound called uranium hexafluoride. Fluoride is a fantastically powerful greenhouse gas; this little fact generally isn't mentioned in the claims of nuclear plants being environmentally friendly. Second, it actually costs more energy overall to construct, maintain, and then D&D a nuclear plant than it ever actually produces - two to six times as much.
- For people considering a hydrogen economy: hydrogen is, by the nature of it, nothing more than a fancy battery. The second law of thermodynamics prevents energy gain from hydrogen processes, as we have to seperate it down here, compress it to usable volumes, and deal with the fact that it is both highly explosive and prone to make just about any container extremely brittle.
- Wind power isn't really effective. You'd need to surround the UK with a kilometer-wide park of wind turbines to provide sufficient power, and even then the wind is only usable at a very specific portion of the Beaufort Scale. If the windspeed drops by half, you actually get only about 1/8 the power.
- Solar power isn't very effective, either, but I've heard that progress is being made; in about a decade, solar technology may exist that is efficient enough to actually allow individual consumers to fully power their homes and have enough surplus power to sell back to the grid.
- Coal liquification is possible, but consumes approximately five times the amount of coal as the oil produced.
- Alternative oil sources - tar sands, shale oil, and whatnot - are more expensive to produce and refine, both due to factors of extraction and purification. What we think of as oiul is considered 'sweet' - lightweight and relatively free of other substances that need to be cleaned before it can be used. As oil becomes more expensive, these resources will certainly see use, but they won't drive the price back down - the cost to produce them means the cost per barrel has to be above the threshold, so scarcity law still remains in effect.
- One of the reasons there is almost nothing that can replace oil is because it is so absurdly potent an energy source; a gallon of gasoline is rated at approximately 60 man-hours of work.
*coughs* I've been researching it a bit, after a friend of mine who has a Save The World streak was bothering me and I suggested that he do something about it if he wanted to save the world. He promptly drafted me to look for negative effects of everything. I've got a lot more to go with all this.
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny |
Hojas wrote:The bible said this would happen :)If we have to leave politics out of it, I'd like to ask that you please leave out religion as well. Nothing starts a flame war faster than political disputes (which are idiotic) and religious disputes (which may be even stupider to get involved in).
*WHOOOSHHH*
There goes the plane...
EDIT: maybe that was the wrong way to phrase that.
How about:
**JOKE ALERT!!!**
Sebastian Bella Sara Charter Superscriber |