As the elven scout might accompany the heroes of Sandpoint to Thistletop I am asking if anybody made up stats for her and wants to share?
Or has anybody ideas beyond giving her favored enemy goblinoids?
Thanks in advance. :)
Alertness, due to the exceptionally long ears.
I think it was stated elsewhere that they give her a Fly speed of 40 ft.
Unfortunately, they increase her Space to 10 ft., and she can't get through doorways.
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Actually, Shalelu will probably also be going with my group. Here's what I came up with for them:
Shalelu Andosana
CG Female Elf Ranger2/Fighter1
Init +3; Senses: Low-Light Vision, Spot +7. Listen +7, Search +1, Secret Door Search
DEFENSE:
AC 17 (Touch 13, Flat-footed 14)
HP 21
Fort +6, Ref +6, Will +1
+2 save vs. Enchantment
Immune: Sleep, paralysis
OFFENSE:
Speed 30ft
Base Attack: +3
Melee: Longsword +6 melee (1d8+1), or
Longsword +4 melee (1d8+1) and Shortsword +3 melee (1d6), or
Shortbow +7 ranged (1d6+1)
Special attacks: +2 damage vs goblinoids
Space 5ft, reach 5ft.
Combat gear: MWK Longsword, MWK Shortsword, MWK Mighty composite Shortbow +1, Potion of Cure Light Wounds x2, Alchemist's Fire
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STR 13, DEX 16, CON 13, INT 8, WIS 12, CHA 10
Skills: Handle Animal +1, Hide +8, Listen +10, Move Silently +8, Search +1, Spot +10, Survival +6
Feats: Lone Wolf (Pathfinder), Alertness, Weapon Focus: Longsword, Track(b), Two-Weapon Fighting(b)
Ranger class features:
Favored Enemy: Goblinoids +2
Wild Empathy
Gear: Combat gear, plus Backpack, Waterskin, Trail Rations x3, Flint & steel, Silk rope (100ft), Signal whistle, whetstone
50GP, 35SP, 24CP
Edit: Screwed up on the skill points. Fixed now.
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lol! ^_^Okay, I was just jesting when I said my piece, but you guys are being mean.
Though, it makes for a great picture, seeing Shalelu sitting on the ground, covering her ears, saying "Stop making fun of me!" while Meri looks on going "WTF?"
... In ANIME style. Muahahaha...
Aw, man, now I can't get the idea of Fred Perry doing that picture, in the vein of his "Level Up" comics...
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Shalelu's stats will be appearing in Pathfinder 3, when her role in Rise of the Runelords becomes a little more important. If you have her go with the PCs earlier in Burnt Offerings, you should still do so; it's cool if the stats you build for her there dont' quite evolve into the same set of stats she has in "Hook Mountain Massacre" of course.
Heh, heh. I'm gonna have to have the goblins capture her before then and cut here ears off for use in construction (two or three pairs will roof a goblin hut). This could provide great motivation for her to assist the PCs against the humanoids.
But I'll make sure not to let them kill her off. Thanks for the warning.
I'm prettty sure Shalelu arrived in Sandpoint via a teleportation spell from World of Warcraft. I hate WoW elves. Seriously, those ears are ridiculous.
Gotta say, I love those ears.
Truly madly and without reservation. Now, bring the hate, bring the napalm ! =)
That's it! Time to form the "Society to Defend Long Eared Elves"! Stop the hating and atagonism against these freaks! They're humanoids, too!
Actually, I believe they should be listed as "aberrations" instead. ;-)
Oh...and...
::tosses the napalm::
There. I feel better now.
--Neil
I have to say that I dislike these oversized ears as well. Features like these should be reserved for the real strange faerie races, not used for every "run-of-the-mill" elf around. I would not show my players a picture like this, as it is too far off for my taste.
Stefan
Gotta say, I love those ears.
Truly madly and without reservation. Now, bring the hate, bring the napalm ! =)
I'm with Nevermind here; I love the longer ears. For those who think Shalelu's ears in the book illustration are too long, I point you to Grant Gould, an artist in another thread who redrew Shalelu and toned the ears down while still keeping them long in the new Pazio style:
But she's still an exile from "Speed Racer."
Gotta say, I love those ears.
Truly madly and without reservation. Now, bring the hate, bring the napalm ! =)
I'm with Nevermind here; I love the longer ears. For those who think Shalelu's ears in the book illustration are too long, I point you to Grant Gould, an artist in another thread who redrew Shalelu and toned the ears down while still keeping them long in the new Pazio style:
Yup, much better, but still retains the cartoon-flavor.
Yup, much better, but still retains the cartoon-flavor.Gotta say, I love those ears.
Truly madly and without reservation. Now, bring the hate, bring the napalm ! =)
I'm with Nevermind here; I love the longer ears. For those who think Shalelu's ears in the book illustration are too long, I point you to Grant Gould, an artist in another thread who redrew Shalelu and toned the ears down while still keeping them long in the new Pazio style:
Yeah, its ok. Perhaps I´m just an old fart disliking this cartoon style, but it is just not for me...
Stefan
I like the way that Paizo has been reimagining the various races, whether it's goblins or elves or kobolds. Count me as in favour of the big ears. :)
Yeah, but I like her original picture with the dreadlocks. (Elflocks?)
Yeah, its ok. Perhaps I´m just an old fart disliking this cartoon style, but it is just not for me...Stefan
As long as they stay far away from manga or WOW cartoons, I'm fine with it. And that Downer-guy. I mean, Downer is cool, but I wouldn want that kind of art in the module itself.
Uhm, will those ears make elves large creatures? I mean, if those ears were any good for anything... (Just flap 'em harder to lift off!)
I like the way that Paizo has been reimagining the various races, whether it's goblins or elves or kobolds. Count me as in favour of the big ears. :)
I second this statement. Paizo's new take on creatures give flavor to the setting. Also, I am tired of LoTR elves in D&D. Get rid of the hobbit (halfling are common-elves in my Varisia).
Gotta say, I love the "pointy" ears too. Makes elves more otherworldly instead of just "humans with 'beautiful' genes".
After all, they aren't humans at all. never have been - and never shall.
Oh, and I am an old-fart.... well above the equator of thirty at least.
PS - 2 to hide ifor elves for the ears though, they keep poking =)
Uhm, will those ears make elves large creatures? I mean, if those ears were any good for anything... (Just flap 'em harder to lift off!)
Now that might just be a nice, refreshing take on the Avariel !
For those who don't know. When D&D arrived in Japan, they had their own ideas about designs. So they made elves with extremly long ears, as you can see in anime classics (Record of the Lodoss War-Deedo 1990). Later on, you found them in independent comics like Poison Elves. Long time after that WoW adapted to their game (and notice that the WoW Elves nearly 2,20m tall and second largest players race in the game). So you can say, after the Japanese borrowed it for their D&D, Paizo borrowed it back. :-)
So you can say, after the Japanese borrowed it for their D&D, Paizo borrowed it back. :-)
Is it returnable within the first 90 days? ;-)
--Neil
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I've mentioned this before in other threads, but in the case of Shalelu, she was the first elf we ordered art for. We wanted long ears, and they'll remain long in our world. Although Shalelu's ears are too long.
Merisiel, the iconic rogue who's scheduled for the cover of Pathfinder 3, is more in line with how our elves will look. Long ears that don't quite go above the top of the head and eyes that don't show the whites. You'll also note that Shalelu's eyes in the picture in Pathfinder 1 aren't on model either since you can see the whites of her eyes... It's all part of the development process of creating a look for characters in our would.
We've got another picture of Shalelu coming in Pathfinder 3, in which her ears are a bit shorter.
Merisiel, the iconic rogue who's scheduled for the cover of Pathfinder 3, is more in line with how our elves will look....We've got another picture of Shalelu coming in Pathfinder 3, in which her ears are a bit shorter.
Yaaay!
I'm already on record as saying Merisiel's "look" is perfectly acceptable, in my opinion. The first incarnation of Shalelu wasn't. But if iteration number two brings her back in line with Merisiel as the model, I say awesome! I like the fact that you're establishing Pathfinder's elves as somewhere between classic-D&D and World of Warcraft. I definitely think that's the ideal place to go. So kudos...
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I've mentioned this before in other threads, but in the case of Shalelu, she was the first elf we ordered art for. We wanted long ears, and they'll remain long in our world. Although Shalelu's ears are too long.
Merisiel, the iconic rogue who's scheduled for the cover of Pathfinder 3, is more in line with how our elves will look. Long ears that don't quite go above the top of the head and eyes that don't show the whites. You'll also note that Shalelu's eyes in the picture in Pathfinder 1 aren't on model either since you can see the whites of her eyes... It's all part of the development process of creating a look for characters in our would.
We've got another picture of Shalelu coming in Pathfinder 3, in which her ears are a bit shorter.
:(
Being a fan of Poison Elves I love the ears. Thanks for being willing to reimage some of the old D&D stand-bys.
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I was curious how much I could do with the original art for Shalelu. Here's what I came up with after half an hour in photochop. :) Note the much bigger irises and the 2/3 size ears.
Shalelu
Great work, janxious!
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I was curious how much I could do with the original art for Shalelu. Here's what I came up with after half an hour in photochop. :) Note the much bigger irises and the 2/3 size ears.
Shalelu
That looks just about perfect - though I imagine, even using that image, that Shalelu gets teased by other elves for her ears sticking out so much.
Sorta like Will Smith, I would think.
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I was curious how much I could do with the original art for Shalelu. Here's what I came up with after half an hour in photochop. :) Note the much bigger irises and the 2/3 size ears.
Shalelu
That's about the right ear length we're going for, and by Pathfinder 4 or 5 we'll probably have it more or less standardized so that ears go up to the top of the head or maybe a few hairs higher. Since art for 2 and 3 is already in and more or less beyond the point of change, there may be a few longer ears or shorter ears still waiting to ambush people and rile them up.
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Since art for 2 and 3 is already in and more or less beyond the point of change, there may be a few longer ears or shorter ears still waiting to ambush people and rile them up.
Yeah, I mostly did the edit because a lot of people were somewhat unhappy with the original (I am not among them), but might, maybe, possibly have liked the art style in general. Hopefully I or someone else with equal or greater Photoshop skills can do similar edits for any other portraits that peeve people.
Also, thanks for the positive feedback. All glory to the original artist (Kyle Hunter?), though. :D
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Since art for 2 and 3 is already in and more or less beyond the point of change, there may be a few longer ears or shorter ears still waiting to ambush people and rile them up.Yeah, I mostly did the edit because a lot of people were somewhat unhappy with the original (I am not among them), but might, maybe, possibly have liked the art style in general. Hopefully I or someone else with equal or greater Photoshop skills can do similar edits for any other portraits that peeve people.
Also, thanks for the positive feedback. All glory to the original artist (Kyle Hunter?), though. :D
Arnold Tsang did the Shalelu picture.
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Arnold Tsang did the Shalelu picture.
Ah! He did one of my favourite Dungeon illos: Gate of Oblivion
All praise to Arnold Tsang!
Then again, you could always divide the elves into the "long ears" and the "short ears." And the two differentiations are rather prejudiced against the other.
Hey what the h am I saying!? Bring on the shorties!
Arnold Tsang did the Shalelu picture.Ah! He did one of my favourite Dungeon illos: Gate of Oblivion
All praise to Arnold Tsang!
...psst. That's Andrew Hou. This is Arnold Tsang.
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...psst. That's Andrew Hou. This is Arnold Tsang.
Dang it. I'm glad someone is keeping things straight. :)
Nice handles baby.
I laugh every time I look at that page. Not the kind of entertainment value that was intended, but still worth it.
Kruelaid, so wrong....but true I suppose.
Personally, I am an otaku (<---anime fan for those not in the know), I like the look. I can understand that some people might not like it, but hey its what Paizo wants (<-- and me too).
Besides before anyone goes and bashes Shalelu's ears against those of Merisiel, Humans can have different sized ears too. ^_^
Shalelu is just well endowed (ear-wise...we have no idea if in any other fashion).
I also like the idea of Elves looking different. The Vulcan/Romulan look elves have from Lord of the Rings and much of the previous canon D&D stuff never really satisfied me. This I definately prefer.
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...and eyes that don't show the whites. You'll also note that Shalelu's eyes in the picture in Pathfinder 1 aren't on model either since you can see the whites of her eyes... It's all part of the development process of creating a look for characters in our would.
Yeah it's the eyes that are really setting the elves apart for me... they're scary! Makes the elves look more otherworldly than your average humanoid (almost alien gray like).
Gotta say, I love those ears.
Truly madly and without reservation. Now, bring the hate, bring the napalm ! =)
I'm with Nevermind here; I love the longer ears. For those who think Shalelu's ears in the book illustration are too long, I point you to Grant Gould, an artist in another thread who redrew Shalelu and toned the ears down while still keeping them long in the new Pazio style:
I like Gould's Shalelu better. More of an elven feel. The RoRL 1 picture looks like a big-earred teenager.
Here's what I did for Shalelu in Part 1... We didn't have the char sheet for the halfling rogue TWF. So I said, "OK, +4 Dex, studded leather, TWF feat, most rogue skills maxed." I basically had my stats for the party rogue.
Shalelu, I didn't have her help out with Thistletop; just had her escort the PCs there. Hmmm, should I have a fight on the way and fudge her stats? Nah!
I decided to Keep It Simple.
I really liked Arnold Tsang's pictures in ROTR 1. His blocky, line-heavy style is very unique and it definitely brings a sophisticated, yet gritty feel to the game. I'm going to show my players the art as is. I mean, come one guys, Shalelu is pretty in an earthy way and Nualia is absolutely stunning! Please keep this guy on board. He's definitely got a lot of talent to burn.