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Jian Ke wrote:
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Matzos... They have a shelf-life longer than Twinkies. (I read that in a survival magazine back in the '80s.) And if you wait for Passover, you can get 5 lb. boxes of the them for fairly cheap, just watch out for the Jewish community if the supplier doesn't give the stores enough for them.

I've got Matzoh in the back of my cupboard that is so gnarly and old, a carbon dating test said it just wanted to be friends.


<shrug> Like I said, the magazine article was written in the mid'80s so it might not be all that accurate as to how long those things last.
But it should last longer than frozen bread that might not be so frozen after a while since freezers take up A LOT of energy to run.


Jian Ke wrote:

<shrug> Like I said, the magazine article was written in the mid'80s so it might not be all that accurate as to how long those things last.

But it should last longer than frozen bread that might not be so frozen after a while since freezers take up A LOT of energy to run.

I was just making a joke. I'm sure it lasts a long time. Desert travelers have desert food, and desert food does not require refrigeration. Those Tam Tam matzoh crackers with everything flavor are quite nice.


I haven't given the topic much thought (except where it crosses over to my job) so I don't have any kind of emergency package planned. Where I live and have lived natural disasters have not been that big that they would bring out longer crises than couple of days without power...and terrorism attacks don't tend to cause life-threatening emergency situations lasting for days either (except cases where you are kidnapped or such and it is pretty hard to prepare for being kidnapped).

First concern is warmth, if you live in climate where this becomes an issue. In case of long-term emergency hypothermia is the quickest killer.
Second is pure water. Then food, medication, first-aid material (more important if you suffer from some ailment which requires constant medication like insulin). Alcohol for cleaning. Other things come after those.

For the record, I wonder how accurate descriptions tv shows like Survivor give for skills and behavior of Americans...if I were able to choose, I would prefer being in state of emergency with other Northern Europeans or Canadians whose versions of Survivor have been described as boring as the people are far less dramatic and actually show solidarity. Because solidarity really is key here (just watch Night of the Living Dead).

I'll follow up with more specific "in case of nuclear emergency" descriptions later.


Oh, and I also have just out of generic interest read things about archeology, and that gives some interesting ideas which might come useful if I were for example stranded in an island in style of Robinson Crusoe. like I haven't really tried it out but at least I have some idea how to make axes and other blades from stone...or how to build a fire.

Hmm, I guess I have given the matter some thought after all. Playing RPGs help, of course (it comes already quite naturally to thing what your character would do when watching films etc.


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For the record, I wonder how accurate descriptions tv shows like Survivor give for skills and behavior of Americans...

My husband and I joke about that series all the time. We're thinking we should write to the network and volunteer for a real survivor show. Get three or four couples, drop them off on an island somewhere where they can have no contact with the other 'teams' set up some cameras, and the last couple standing wins. No 'winning' fire, or voting off people.


Steve, first off, you are screwed in an emergency situation. You live in a desert, so the most important thing is to figure out where to go. I have never been to vegas, but, you have to have enough supplies to get yourself out of there, and quickly. If the streets are packed with cars, do you have an alternate plan? Motorcycle? Bike?

Eh, it might not happen, but if it does we are all screwed. One think i didn't see in peoples plans are books. Simple how to stuff like pre industrial farming, hunting for idiots, survival guides..etc. Cause if a domino disaster happens, we are all screwed because we have become too interconnected. Something as simple as having the 4 major refineries blown up in the US would bring shipping to a HALT. Food runs out in a week at stores...

Now what do you do?

It doesn't take much to really screw things up...


Though a vegetarian, that does not preclude the eating of my many delicious-looking fingers and toes. I'm pretty sure that I could survive in the wild for 20 days with a knife if I only knoshed a little at a time. Day 21 would yiled little more than harmless flapping of harvested hands like some sort of lost and injured walrus, but at least I'd know the pleasure of complete self suffiency.


Well, Steve could survive at least a few months in Vegas by scavenging the casinos. He could fend off the old ladies sitting at the nickel slot machines (who, of course, wouldn't leave for ANYTHING) with his Remington, while heroically leading a few confused showgirls back to his love enclave in the mountains.

"We have to repopulate the planet."

"But Steve, we just lost power for a few weeks."

"It's the only way to be sure."


farewell2kings wrote:

Well, Steve could survive at least a few months in Vegas by scavenging the casinos. He could fend off the old ladies sitting at the nickel slot machines (who, of course, wouldn't leave for ANYTHING) with his Remington, while heroically leading a few confused showgirls back to his love enclave in the mountains.

"We have to repopulate the planet."

"But Steve, we just lost power for a few weeks."

"It's the only way to be sure."

LOL!!!

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
I shoot watermelons with an M-1.

An M1?!?!

*covet*

I have an Enfield 1917 30-06 bolt action that I adore, and I'd love to add an M1 to my... "collection" ... ? but my girlfriend is kinda anti-gun (which is totally weird considering her dad owns about twenty [*drool*]), so for now I'm limited to the one. Not that I can afford an M1 right now, but, you know...

Yeah...

One of my best juvenile pranks involved te M-1. I filled several water bottles with homemade fake blood (water + corn syrup + chocolate + food coloring), and took tham to the local outdoor rifle range in January when there was still snow on the ground. I then proceeded to shoot the bottles with the M-1, remove the traces of plastic, and walk back home in my own footprints. My aim was to make it look like someone was walking up-range and got shot, but the body ws missing. It was kinda lame, but OK, ...


zahnb wrote:

Steve, first off, you are screwed in an emergency situation. You live in a desert, so the most important thing is to figure out where to go. I have never been to vegas, but, you have to have enough supplies to get yourself out of there, and quickly. If the streets are packed with cars, do you have an alternate plan? Motorcycle? Bike?

Eh, it might not happen, but if it does we are all screwed. One think i didn't see in peoples plans are books. Simple how to stuff like pre industrial farming, hunting for idiots, survival guides..etc. Cause if a domino disaster happens, we are all screwed because we have become too interconnected. Something as simple as having the 4 major refineries blown up in the US would bring shipping to a HALT. Food runs out in a week at stores...

Now what do you do?

It doesn't take much to really screw things up...

I did completely forget to include the fact that I have Roughing it Easy and a complete wilderness survival guide in the home kit. All I need to know about edible plants, how to find/get water, and how to set snares. That and I have a garden out back. Sorry for the omission. ^ ~


Corey Young wrote:


I did completely forget to include the fact that I have Roughing it Easy and a complete wilderness survival guide in the home kit. All I need to know about edible plants, how to find/get water, and how to set snares. That and I have a garden out back. Sorry for the omission. ^ ~

I always wished I knew what plants I could eat in the wild and all that other good scout type stuff... but it's like learning a language... you probably have to use it or lose it and I can't picture myself chewing the bark off a tree recreationally.

There was this great film in the 60's called My Side of the Mountain about a boy who lived on his own for a year in the wildnerness... during winter he stayed in a hollowed out tree and cultured algae.

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zahnb wrote:

Steve, first off, you are screwed in an emergency situation. You live in a desert, so the most important thing is to figure out where to go. I have never been to vegas, but, you have to have enough supplies to get yourself out of there, and quickly. If the streets are packed with cars, do you have an alternate plan? Motorcycle? Bike?

Eh, it might not happen, but if it does we are all screwed.

Screwed? Maybe. The goal right now is to spend about $10/week to build up a long term emergency supplies cache and not go anywhere. My ultimate goal is a 1 year supply of food, water, and other bare necessities. I'll need to invest in some large airtight containers like these. Of course, there's always the thought that if something is going to happen, it isn't going to be conveniently scheduled at a time when I'm ready for it. All I can do is do what I can as I can.

If I need to evacuate, well, I'm planning to have a 72 hour kit that can be transported. I'll go wherever I'm instructed and hope that there will be relief waiting for me there in the form of food & shelter.

Pretty much the biggest threat to Vegas is loss of power, food coming in from outside the city, and water. During the summer the loss of power and water is pretty much a recipe for lots of fatalities. Its pretty hot here from about mid-May to the end of September. If it's a military type of emergency it would probably come in the form of an attack on Nellis Air Force Base which is about 10 miles from me. I would assume an evacuation if it's a sustained attack. If it's a nuke, well, I think I'm close enough to the base that I'm either done for right away or within hours/days of that kind of attack from radiation sickness. Not an expert on this stuff, but that seems to fit with what I've heard.

In the end, the details of an emergency are just a guessing game. You just have to prepare for things in a general and most likely scenario.

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The Jade wrote:
Though a vegetarian, that does not preclude the eating of my many delicious-looking fingers and toes. I'm pretty sure that I could survive in the wild for 20 days with a knife if I only knoshed a little at a time. Day 21 would yiled little more than harmless flapping of harvested hands like some sort of lost and injured walrus, but at least I'd know the pleasure of complete self suffiency.

My little girl's fingers and toes are absolutely delicious. I eat them every day (well, not really).

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The Jade wrote:
Though a vegetarian, that does not preclude the eating of my many delicious-looking fingers and toes. I'm pretty sure that I could survive in the wild for 20 days with a knife if I only knoshed a little at a time. Day 21 would yiled little more than harmless flapping of harvested hands like some sort of lost and injured walrus, but at least I'd know the pleasure of complete self suffiency.

That's stomach turning-ly creepy Jade.

That being said, I'm a big advocate of cannabilism in times of crisis. I don't know how many times in movies the characters get trapped somewhere and start whining about food when, prior to getting trapped, good old Bill died and his corpse is just lying there, chock full of calories and nutrition.

Plus, you get super powers and fast healing from eating human flesh. It's a bit addictive, but the coolness factor definitely prevails.


The Jade wrote:


I always wished I knew what plants I could eat in the wild and all that other good scout type stuff... but it's like learning a language... you probably have to use it or lose it and I can't picture myself chewing the bark off a tree recreationally.

Did I mention my husband takes our kids on nature walks and teaches them the various plants. Yeah, he is the total survivorman. We hunt, we have a garden and nine fruit trees, a grapevine, rasberry bushes, two walnut trees and cows in the field, oh, and chickens, and we live on a river. Did you know you can make fire with a nine volt battery and steel wool? *sigh* I married Davy Crockette.

There was this great film in the 60's called My Side of the Mountain about a boy who lived on his own for a year in the wildnerness... during winter he stayed in a hollowed out tree and cultured algae.

I didn't know they made a movie out of that. I read the book when I was younger, I'll be looking for that movie now, thanks.


Why can I not get this quoting thing down!?


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Why can I not get this quoting thing down!?

Sometimes it just fails to background tint some of the intra quote langauge. Especially if you're quoting someone quoting someone. Don't know why. I think that it's only been occurring since the last board upgrade.

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The Jade wrote:


I always wished I knew what plants I could eat in the wild and all that other good scout type stuff... but it's like learning a language... you probably have to use it or lose it and I can't picture myself chewing the bark off a tree recreationally.

Stupid Human Tricks vol. 1:

A few summers ago, at Boy Scout camp, a couple of guys said they had found an edible plant. The entire area staff ate it. At first, it tasted like peanuts, but SUDDENLY, it began to burn. And when I say burn, I mean BURN!. It wore off after a few hours, but the incident shall live in infamy.


I like being nettled. It's the stinging and lumpy skin combined with the pleasure of scratching it. Best on the leg. Mmmmmmmm. One of my little camping joys! :)


The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Stupid Human Tricks vol. 1:

A few summers ago, at Boy Scout camp, a couple of guys said they had found an edible plant. The entire area staff ate it. At first, it tasted like peanuts, but SUDDENLY, it began to burn. And when I say burn, I mean BURN!. It wore off after a few hours, but the incident shall live in infamy.

Dude. What was it?


R-type wrote:
I like being nettled. It's the stinging and lumpy skin combined with the pleasure of scratching it. Best on the leg.

If it's available, break open dandelions and squeeze the milk over the nettle stings. It helps.

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R-type wrote:
I like being nettled. It's the stinging and lumpy skin combined with the pleasure of scratching it. Best on the leg. Mmmmmmmm. One of my little camping joys! :)

That is one of the oddest things I've heard in a few days, Mr. Itchy-Scratchy.


Lilith wrote:
R-type wrote:
I like being nettled. It's the stinging and lumpy skin combined with the pleasure of scratching it. Best on the leg.
If it's available, break open dandelions and squeeze the milk over the nettle stings. It helps.

The little brown dots on the underside of a male sword fern help too, but I like the dandelion idea better, it sounds far more soothing. I'll be giving that one a try.


Great thread!

I live in the middle of Los Angeles, which is both earthquake country and a prime "terrorist target," though the likelyhood of another devastating terrorist attack in this country is actually pretty low (and don't me started on the idiocy of the "plastic sheeting and duct tape" plan -- short version: if you can breathe, you're not airtight, and the bad stuff can get into your house, if you've created a seal good enough to protect you from bad stuff in the air, you have about eight hours to live before you suffocate).

We really need to put together a decent survival kit.

Also, while I don't keep firearms in the house, I do keep several swords. They're no good at range, but swords never run out of ammo.


Also, color me jealous of Shiny's M1, too. One of the finest rifles ever made.

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The Jade wrote:
The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:


Stupid Human Tricks vol. 1:

A few summers ago, at Boy Scout camp, a couple of guys said they had found an edible plant. The entire area staff ate it. At first, it tasted like peanuts, but SUDDENLY, it began to burn. And when I say burn, I mean BURN!. It wore off after a few hours, but the incident shall live in infamy.

Dude. What was it?

Nobody knows. We thought it was arrowroot (I think), but we weren't able to identify it afterward.

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Lilith wrote:
R-type wrote:
I like being nettled. It's the stinging and lumpy skin combined with the pleasure of scratching it. Best on the leg.
If it's available, break open dandelions and squeeze the milk over the nettle stings. It helps.

As does milkweed. Plus, it's a natural coagulant, so if you ever cut yourself camping, rub milkweed juice in it.

Just don't drink the stuff. It ain't easy on the stomach. Believe me, I work at a Boy Scout camp. I've seen people do VERY, VERY stupid things.

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R-type wrote:
I like being nettled. It's the stinging and lumpy skin combined with the pleasure of scratching it. Best on the leg. Mmmmmmmm. One of my little camping joys! :)

Oh, yeah. Poison parsnip is better. You get an itchy red mark that quickly develops into painful, pus-filled boils the size of marbles. Plus, it leaves a scar after the boils pop. Wacky fun, that.


My hubby, who used to be a wildland firefighter, told me the story about a guy that failed to bring extra TP out on the fireline, had to go do his business, and instead used a large three-lobed leaf.

Of course, turns out the leaf was poison oak.

Poor guy.

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Lilith wrote:

My hubby, who used to be a wildland firefighter, told me the story about a guy that failed to bring extra TP out on the fireline, had to go do his business, and instead used a large three-lobed leaf.

Of course, turns out the leaf was poison oak.

Poor guy.

Awww, s#+@e. That made me cringe when I read it.

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Lilith wrote:

My hubby, who used to be a wildland firefighter, told me the story about a guy that failed to bring extra TP out on the fireline, had to go do his business, and instead used a large three-lobed leaf.

Of course, turns out the leaf was poison oak.

Poor guy.

I would sooner chop my ass off with a fire axe than live through that...


Rule 1: Identify alternate source of TP when out in the field. Avoid three-lobed leaves, pine cones, needles and bark.

Sadly, in the High Desert, this does not leave much. This goes to

Rule 2: Fast food joints usually give you an excess of napkins. Do not throw them away. The glove box is a good place to store them.

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Lilith wrote:

Rule 1: Identify alternate source of TP when out in the field. Avoid three-lobed leaves, pine cones, needles and bark.

However, if you can correctly identify Striped maple (Goosefoot Maple), it makes for the best non-paper TP ON EARTH!


uhm; head to Jade's house; she seems prepared and could probably use a efreeti to keep the fire going lol.
seriously; there are lots of books on the issue; civilization ending events are problematic; looting and riots are probably the most realistic of issues you have to face directly after some event. Are you trying to plan for a collapse of civilization or just have a month of relief for yourself. Your priorities should be clean drinkable water for as long as you need it, food for as long as you need it; and a companion with a like minded attitude for survival. I would suggest you outline what type of threats your going to plan for; take into account what area of the globe you live in; what the population density is in that region and go from their. Things like NBC total warfare, earth breaking asteroids; world ending mega volcanic blasts can be survived by some, but very very few individuals have the resources to overcome such obstacles.

An additional thing to consider is how many people know about your preparations; their are always going to be some people who are just going to try to obtain your supplies and find a way to do so; your going to have to consider your options and what responses you can live with, more team members makes you stronger, but then getting along long term in cramped, uncomfortable or with personality disorders can make things a living hell. Also; consider how much of your disposable income you are willing to commit to a project that may not ever get used; but then, if it happens; you dont want to be kicking yourself for what you should have done; find your comfort zone.

Practice the skills that you are going to need to survive; make a list of what these skills are; do your homework; make a set of 10 scenarios of excalating bad situations as a start and find a way to over come them; be realistic.

well, just trying to give people a start.


On the subject of preparation, I have a copy of the Army Field Survival Guide, as well as a few other survival manuals.

I am in now way better prepared than anybody else because of it, but I will have reference books in an emergency!


Rumor has it The Jade is a guy. A guy who chose an unfortunately feminine nick, given, nevertheless beduded from birth.

That said, Efreet are always welcome so long as they obey the "No Genie eating" sign.


If we were in a disaster situation, we'd be okay within a day or two. We have enough water, medicine for my oldest, and a way to generate electricity. Food wouldn't even be a thought for us, we have enough canned for about 3 weeks. And we have 3 manual can openers.

Now, for an apocalyptic scenario, here's what I'd need:
Proteins: Until we could find game, nuts would be the most portable, and least perishable. Trail mixes don't go bad, and we'd probably use them as our primary diet for a day or two. Jerky would also be a good thing.

Vegetables & fruits: Canned. I figure on can of fruits & 1 of vegetables per day for the family. It's light fare, but we'll be stretching our food until we find somewhere safe. Also, as has been stated, 2 of the big canisters of Tang.

grains: Lots and lots of Rice (long grain/wild), Crackers, and more crackers. Bread for a day or two.

Dairy: condensed milk & powdered milk would have to do.

Household goods: TP is high on the list. A book of edible plants & animals for my region would be a good thing, as the internet would be gone (oh no!). A shovel for latrines & digging for water. Knives, a knife sharpener, and a couple of boy scout kitchen utensil pocket knives each (one to sell or barter with each). Salt & Sugar for taste of goods. Matches

Other tools & goods: Shoulder harness cart for humans: This is for carrying goods & the children in. it's got 2 wheels and a triangular shape. A tent, several propane tanks, a propane stove & lantern. Flint & a knife for the flint. Kindling for fires (not a problem as nobody's going to want newspapers anymore). A pistol & rifle for protection. Several Knives. A saw, three hand axes, a whetstone, a sledge hammer, a normal hammer, an adze (I have two), recurve bow w/40 arrows, machete, 3 pots, 2 pans, steel bar to use for roasting spit, and 3 can openers. 3-4 walking sticks. Car w/ full tank of gas & directions/maps of USA. A well stocked first aid kit, and medicine for the whole family.

What's sad is I have most of the items on the list...

/d


lol; sorry; I forgot; yep; having a few of the military survival manuals is a good thing as well as a book or two on fauna and flora for the area you livin or expect to be surviving in; also; as few books on how they preserved food in the old days and techniques of natives of the area from the "olden days" is good; find a few really old cookbooks; you would be surprized what you can learn in those; also, pick up a book of Hoyle and other simple games to make idle time easier and learn to play and instrument. Learn a skill like weaving and try growing a few plants like an herb garden and some tomatoes or something to practice those skills and see if you have the temperment for that sort of thing or if you are going to depend on others for food or just eat dried supplements forever.

Test yourself; have your water and power/gas etc turned off for a couple weeks; dont use the supermarket or things like that which wont be available and see if your plan works; false bravo can get you killed; test your plan ahead of time in a safe, controlled enviroment and make changes to your plan as needed; also buy sandbags; everyone needs sandbags.


A few guides that seem pretty good to me are Tom Brown's Guides: Wilderness Survival and Living With the Earth are good ones. His guide to edible and medicinal plants is all right, but really geared for more like the north eastern part of the United States. The one thing you should know before you read these is that he puts a lot of his philosophy into the books, Native American stuff his best friend's grandfather taught him. It's interesting but can be distracting if you aren't prepared.

The books that I paged through but never got because they were hideously insanely expensive at the time, although Amazon seems to have newer books that are really cheap (in comparison) are the Foxfire books. These books seem to have a bit of everything on "how to be a pioneer." Like log cabin building, how to make moonshine... Although if you do look in Amazon for these be careful. Foxfire 1- whatever number they stopped at are the living like it was 1899 books. There seems to be a few books also called Foxfire that are stories.

The Tom Brown guides I found in the Nature/Gardening section of Borders (if you go to normal stores). The hideously expensive Foxfire books were in the reference section at Keplers back in the 80s (okay so 50 bucks a book seemed really expensive to me).


Jian Ke, I agree, the Tom Brown books are solid.

Sebastian wrote:
The Jade wrote:
Though a vegetarian, that does not preclude the eating of my many delicious-looking fingers and toes. I'm pretty sure that I could survive in the wild for 20 days with a knife if I only knoshed a little at a time. Day 21 would yiled little more than harmless flapping of harvested hands like some sort of lost and injured walrus, but at least I'd know the pleasure of complete self suffiency.

That's stomach turning-ly creepy Jade.

That being said, I'm a big advocate of cannabilism in times of crisis. I don't know how many times in movies the characters get trapped somewhere and start whining about food when, prior to getting trapped, good old Bill died and his corpse is just lying there, chock full of calories and nutrition.

Plus, you get super powers and fast healing from eating human flesh. It's a bit addictive, but the coolness factor definitely prevails.

Sorry, I missed this post. I believe that in a situation where cannabalism would save me I am a sure thing to die. Although a vegetarian, I'm not squeamish, and I've given myself stitches with surgical thread and witnesses (not worth doing if you can't freak out your friends). Dunno, just don't see myself making that first slice and cleaving off a heaping hunk of mansteak tartar. If I die, and you have to feed on me, stay away from my magical place. I want it stuffed and mounted for posterity, although I'm not sure if people will see the name plaque below and consider the bountiful mounting an exacting summation of my character.

Super powers from cannabalism... Ravenous, now that was a fun film.


hhe say it with me; WENDIGO; best learn your herbage and leave the canibalism alone; take up fishing.


The *FIRST* step is to move out of danger zones. This is why I live on 4 acres situated 15+ miles out of town.

The *SECOND* step is to get to know your neighbors. Learn how to do a couple of things really well and encourage others to do the same so that everyone within "range" knows enough to cover all the basic skill-groups.

(BTW - by our local standards, most of you are woefully under-armed. ;) )

I had a sheriff's deputy we used to go to church with tell me when we moved out here:
"Yeah, I know where y'all are moving to. Our response time is 30 minutes more or less, so be prepared to hold out on your own for at least that long. Not that I worry about *you* holding out at least 30 minutes..."

I've more or less run thru my family's situation on a similar thread a few months ago - small farm, small livestock, remote location, stores of food, weapons, medical gear, training, etc. Since that time, we've begun developing an airsoft team based around our gaming group. My 6yo girl can set up a bounding overwatch based entirely on hand-signals. My son is a ham radio operator and a wrestler (took silver in his weight class at State this year). I've added a "foster son" pretty much - 23yo gamer, paintballer, and former JROTCer (medical prob kept him out of the military). Once our other gamers get back, we'll have a USAF TAC-P (tactical air control party - they run w/ the spec-ops guys) and a blackhawk mechanic (& maybe pilot). They all go to college about 30 minutes away. We're working on a bug-out bag for the one that is here currently. Their orders in event of a disaster - "Bring what you got and head for the farm."

Lotta good stuff on this thread. Some of you have given this stuff some *serious* thought and attention. (Corey & Steve pop to mind immediately)

Remember - gear not carried does you NO good at all.

So - what's in your pockets RIGHT NOW?

http://outlands.tripod.com - my "webstead" site, survival and homesteading articles and links, in case anyone needs some.


Doc_Outlands wrote:


Lotta good stuff on this thread. Some of you have given this stuff some *serious* thought and attention. (Corey & Steve pop to mind immediately)

Oh, I've given it serious thought, and made good investment accordingly. Though, until I'm able to construct an uber-rural earth sheltered home... there's only so much I can do in my current financial state living within the Indian Point kill zone. These days I deal with the fear of the world by understanding that, should crisis come knocking, I'm just a dead man. It's not that I want to be "simple" as your site states... it's just that I lived in the mountains until I was three because my mother married a guy who thought California was going to fall into the ocean. So, concerned with my own survival but also cynical, I grew up wanting one foot on safe ground, and one in the fire. That probably makes me fairly useless come mushroom cloud Tuesday and all that, but being prepared, as a philosophy, always has me worried that I'm losing too many waking hours to worry when the inevitability is that this is all going to end sometime not so far off. Time that could be used writing overly long posts on the internet. :)

But I have to say... your set-up there is truly intriguing. I can't help but to imagine a novel about a gaming group where everyone at the table, even the tots, have highly specialized skills that allow them to put Red Dawn's wolverines to shame should the fan ever get assaulted by the scat. Especially the nuclear family aspect of it. If you're a writer, Doc, please write it. I can guarantee you one firm sale. And think about it, you'll probably cause others to want to follow suit and incorporate the thinking behind your agenda into their own lives.


The Jade wrote:
If you're a writer, Doc, please write it. I can guarantee you one firm sale. And think about it, you'll probably cause others to want to follow suit and incorporate the thinking behind your own agenda into their own lives.

I've started it as a writing project, a couple of times from a couple of different viewpoints. Mainly, I get hung up on a thought or idea for our real-world plans and use my writing to figure out how to best procede from there. Kinda weird, but that's a writer for you. :D

I'm on my way to the feed store right now - I'll try and find some of the writing projects I've been involved with online and post links to them later today.


Doc_Outlands wrote:

I've started it as a writing project, a couple of times from a couple of different viewpoints. Mainly, I get hung up on a thought or idea for our real-world plans and use my writing to figure out how to best procede from there. Kinda weird, but that's a writer for you. :D

I'm on my way to the feed store right now - I'll try and find some of the writing projects I've been involved with online and post links to them later today.

I greatly look forward to it. Thanks.


The Awakening - A shared story thread - May 2002; This is a "come as you are" multi-author invasion story thread by a good many of the TB2K posters of the time. Started out rather vaguely and went all over the place. Some very good writing in this one.

I wrote some sections in this one as "theOutlands" The companion discussion thread is here

Fiction: Rioting in Arabia & the oil stops flowing - May 2004; The original post is a fictional time-line of events occurring as the flow of Middle Eastern oil runs out that was written by a non-TB2K writer and posted to the board by one of our energy supply posters.

I made a couple of posts on this thread as well, focussing on how we would react to such a situation. A discussion thread for this one is here

Living in the Handbasket - August 2003; Story about one family and their local community dealing with the aftereffects of a nation-crippling EMP strike.

This one is all mine and one that I seriously need to get back to work on. LOTS of people have commented favorably on it - both on-board and not - about how they want to see me pick up with the story and keep going on it. No discussion thread for this one - I didn't ever write enough to merit a separate thread. ;)

That's what I've got posted on the net. SOMEwhere, I think I have bits and pieces of some others, but I'll be decades actually finding them and making them available online - too many different computers in my history of use.

Also, I'll be posting links to a current disaster-preparedness pamphlet as published by a Nebraska govt entity. I'm doing it for another board I'm on, but since this thread seems to have a degree of interest here, I'll share the links here as well.

Oh, and considering how and what I'm teaching my kids, only the 2yo won't have an assigned task in an emergency...

:D


Here's the brochure scans:
Disaster Shopping List

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