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Hey, I found the trailer for the upcoming '300'-movie:
'300'-Trailer

What do you think? I think it looks awesome and the visuals are really, really close to the book. I can't wait to see the whole thing...


That is INSANE.

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I've watched the trailer 4 times now, and I still get goosebumps and chills.
What a timeless story, done up by Frank Miller on the big screen. Awesome. Can't wait.


Holy schnikes, that looks sweet. Yay for more historical events making it to the big screen!

Here's to hoping it's better than Troy!


Lilith wrote:

Holy schnikes, that looks sweet. Yay for more historical events making it to the big screen!

Here's to hoping it's better than Troy!

hehe shouldn't schnikes be capitalized?

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Lilith wrote:
Here's to hoping it's better than Troy!

If it's really as close to the comic as it looks like, I can guarantee that it will be far better than 'Troy'...


Is this movie about the Thermopyles battle ?


Bran wrote:
Is this movie about the Thermopyles battle ?

It is. :D


Awesome! To anyone that likes this period of history, or this particular battle and subsequent campaign, I'd strongly recommend Stephen Pressfield's most excellent novel Gates of Fire. This is truly one of the best stories about the Spartans that I've ever read (and I've read a lot).


Great trailer! And Reaper minis have just released some spartans! :)


Awesome! The trailer was great. I was fired up to see it before, but now that I know that its by Frank Miller and it looks like that..... Damn


At first I thought that "Then we will fight in the shade" line was way over the top and hokey.
Then I read a bit and found out that that line is actually a direct quote from Herodotus. Who knew?

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OMG!!!
It's coming out in a week!!
I can't wait. I'm gonna see it in the fancy IMAX theatre.
"Then we will fight in the shade!"
What a badass.


I watched the making of 300 on HBO last night, and I was blown away. It is going to be unbelievable!!! Give me a king that will fight next to me vs. a god like king who watches above the battle! It will be such a bad ass action packed, edge of your seat, thrilling, great film WITH a plot to boot!!!

Fizz

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Amal Ulric wrote:
Awesome! To anyone that likes this period of history, or this particular battle and subsequent campaign, I'd strongly recommend Stephen Pressfield's most excellent novel Gates of Fire. This is truly one of the best stories about the Spartans that I've ever read (and I've read a lot).

I read this book on the flight from Iraq back to Civilization...amazing, empathetic, a warrior ethos that makes you proud of the very idea of 'Soldier'. Absolute recommended read.


I think it will be good, but far from historically accurate, which makes wonder why is it ok for movies of actual events to be interpreted as seen fit. Yet comic book movies get labeled as crap(On these boards specifically) if the movie studio shows creative license? Accurate make-believe and make believe history. Personally, I am more concerned with history being accurate. Anyway 300 still looks awesome.


secretturchinman wrote:

I think it will be good, but far from historically accurate, which makes wonder why is it ok for movies of actual events to be interpreted as seen fit. Yet comic book movies get labeled as crap(On these boards specifically) if the movie studio shows creative license? Accurate make-believe and make believe history. Personally, I am more concerned with history being accurate. Anyway 300 still looks awesome.

Well the movie is based on the graphic novel, and the graphic novel is very loosly (not to mention over the top) based on historical events. I wouldn't expect it to be bang on with historical accuracy, but it should still be great.

Fizz

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secretturchinman wrote:

I think it will be good, but far from historically accurate, which makes wonder why is it ok for movies of actual events to be interpreted as seen fit. Yet comic book movies get labeled as crap(On these boards specifically) if the movie studio shows creative license? Accurate make-believe and make believe history. Personally, I am more concerned with history being accurate. Anyway 300 still looks awesome.

The events at Themopylae occurred almost 2500 years ago (480 BC)...our only "reliable" reference to the Greek side of the battle comes from Herodotus' "Histories" of Hellas. Herodotus was four years old when the battle against Xerxes was fought. The funny thing about Herodotus: if he didn't have the facts...he made them up. "300" is based on a graphic novel-adaptation, not Pressfield's novel, and is certainly intended to be entertainment.


Fizzban wrote:

I watched the making of 300 on HBO last night, and I was blown away. It is going to be unbelievable!!! Give me a king that will fight next to me vs. a god like king who watches above the battle! It will be such a bad ass action packed, edge of your seat, thrilling, great film WITH a plot to boot!!!

Fizz

I just watched this HBO 1st look. I liked that they showed pics from the comic & then showed you what they turned them into. Very impressed! Can't wait for next Friday, WHOOOHOOO!

Oh & HH, thanks for rubbin' it in about the IMAX, I'm so jealous. :o\

Frog God Games

It opens Friday? Go tell the Spartans...

(Sorry couldn't resist.)

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Greg V wrote:

It opens Friday? Go tell the Spartans...

(Sorry couldn't resist.)

I would, but they're kinda scary.


I just finished reading:

Thermopylae: The Battle for the West
Ernle Bradford
Da Capo Press

It was really good - and provided a lot of information not only on the battle, but why it was fought, why it was important, and the effect it had on the war and how that impacted Greece in general - it also gives a lot of information on the Persians. I really enjoyed it and would recommend it to anyone interested in a good (and brief) historical account.


I'm going tonight at midnight. I hope I'm not disappointed.

Fizz

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I want to see this movie SO BAD but I cannot rationalize seeing it on opening weekend because EVERYONE is going to be seeing it on opening weekend and more people in the theatre = more noise & poorer seat selection = less enjoyment.

So, I'm going to make up for it by seeing it NEXT weekend... IN IMAX!!!


I SAW IT!!!! In one word GLOURIOUS!!! It was great. Ok its 3:00AM, and I'm heading to bed. I'll explain more tomorrow.

Fizz


It was unbelievable. I left the theater wanting to grab a spear and go kill something. The cinematography was amazing. The dept of each shot gave such a goose bump reaction, and the grainy film they shot threw at times made you remember that it was a graphic novel. The acting was perfect. The soundtrack meshed perfectly. It was over the top, gory, extreme, and made from the stuff that makes us all play D&D. The entire movie did not revolve around battle. It involved political movements, superstition, honor, love, loyalty, tyranny, and how women can change war and make others pay for what they have done. The movie also gave enough of a realistic and historical feel that you could almost believe it unfolded through history like it did on screen, but then it would have several over the top moments that were unbelievable and made you tingle inside and know why we still remember the Battle of Thermopylae. I loved it.

Fizz


The NY Times had the most hilariously scathing review, I may need to see the film just to do justice to the article.


FREAKING TIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REASON I PLAY DND

FREAKING GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AMAZING MOVIE!!! LOVEDITLOVEDITLOVEDITLOVEDIT!!!!


Sure to be the must see movie of the year! :o)

Afterwards, LG asked me to rank it between 1 & 10, I thought of giving it a 9 but... well... butt made it a 10. Go see it & y'all'll know what I'm talking about! (at least the other ladies will) *giggle*


go see this...FOR SPARTA!

Man, oh man, this is an amazing acheivement in cinema. I thought the "Sin City" was the be-all end-all adaptation of comic to screen. Frank Miller's vision is THERE! Enough machismo to choke a lion...be warned it is as violent as hell.

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It was sweet.

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Kirth Gersen wrote:
The NY Times had the most hilariously scathing review, I may need to see the film just to do justice to the article.

To hell with them.

Y'know, Rolling Stone dogged the crap out of Revenge of the Sith, but then said something along the lines of the fanboys will be happy probably. They can all bite me.


Heathansson wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:
The NY Times had the most hilariously scathing review, I may need to see the film just to do justice to the article.

To hell with them.

Y'know, Rolling Stone dogged the crap out of Revenge of the Sith, but then said something along the lines of the fanboys will be happy probably. They can all bite me.

My friend once showed me an article that pointed out all the classic albums that Rolling Stone had given a bad review and 1 or 2 stars on their release. And then pointed out the years when they included them in their "greatests albums of the 70s/80s/90s/whatever" with 4 or 5 stars and an embarrasingly worshipful retrospective. There were a lot.

Anything innovative they pan as being pretentious noise, and then when the rest of the bands have caught up and that style is cool they suddenly pretend they knew all along that the album was ahead of it's time and genius.

They are a bunch of sycophantic fashion followers and so is just about every other venerable "mainstream" publication. I reckon that's how they stay in business.

I easily believe you guys over than the NY Times, and can't wait to go see it.


Very good movie, absolutely faithful to the graphic novel... which is why our local paper gave it a C-. And to the average, non-comic-book-reading movie goer, it might be accurate.

As a comic lover, I enjoyed it immensely. My non-comic-loving fiance also enjoyed it, commenting she was very impressed that Frank Miller knew his Greek theatre, where hubris was a cardinal sin (Oedipus, et al). Greeks loved nothing better than seeing someone pulled down off a pedastel... you'd think Xerxes would have noticed that before he invaded :)

Fave moment - Leonidas' queen Gorgo stabbing the traitorous senator, then twisting it while she said "This will not be quick; it will not be painless."

Not so fave - According to an interview with IGN.com, Director Zack Snyder says that fighting styles and formations (particularly the Spartan's phalanx) were purposefully changed - making them historically inaccurate - so they'd "look cool" and work better for movie purposes. It's understandable, artistic license and movie budgets and all, but unfortunate.

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Your culprit is actually the author himself, not the director. I can't find the link now, but Frank Miller said that after he exhaustively researched the Spartan fighting style, he decided to change it completely - since they, in his words, "carried half their body weight in armour", they could hardly move at all, and that would be boring to draw. So - armour out, leaping and running in.

I'm seeing it tomorrow - I can hardly wait!


Heathansson wrote:
Y'know, Rolling Stone dogged the crap out of Revenge of the Sith, but then said something along the lines of the fanboys will be happy probably.

I wasn't happy. I suppose by then I wasn't as surprised "Attack of the Clones" was God aweful. It was better than that but that's about all I can say for it youngling.

As for 300 it lived up to what I expected. Not the greatest film ever made, but descent enough a spectacle to watch again.

GGG

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Youngling? Sheesh!


Great Green God wrote:
I wasn't happy. I suppose by then I wasn't as surprised "Attack of the Clones" was God aweful. It was better than that but that's about all I can say for it youngling.

That's the nail in my coffin here, GGG. I loved "Attack" (FINALLY--all the puzzle pieced explaining how the Emperor takes over the galaxy!) and hated "Revenge" (yeah, yeah, I already know how he's going to do it; the last movie told us so). And I never could get into comic books. So everybody ignore my 2 cents; I still enjoy the NY Times reviews more than I do most of the movies they review. Is that perverse? Probably. But at least it's honest.


Lilith wrote:
Bran wrote:
Is this movie about the Thermopyles battle ?
It is. :D

well, not to split hairs, but no; not really if you want to be specific, though the end where all the armies of Greece show up is. If you want to just look at it as one period of cause and effect; than sure. It is kinda like saying that the assassination of that certain Duke started WWI; well, yes and no, cause and effect; yes, events leading to the war had to be in place; so no. Just trying to illustrate it is kinda how you look at it; but I would say 300 is not about the battle you mention.


Well, I enjoyed the show; is a good remake of the original which I also enjoy. I think they basically get the story right, but of course has a lot of Hollywoodism; their fighting technique was very well depicted with the phalanx though they were typically square and their spears were longer, but, they get longer as over the classical age until the spears; or as we would call them pikes, from the third row actually extend past the first row, but that is neither here nor there. Like peeps have already said; what we have of the ordeal we have from the aformentioned and a few references from those of Athens who of course were Sparta's big rival.


actually, what surprized me the most about the movie was the rating and the explicit stuff and all the 8 to 12 year olds and teenagers in the audience. hmm.

Grand Lodge

Wow.

Probably the best looking movie I've ever seen. Insane fight scenes, plenty of pithy one-liners, great soundtrack... Essentially, it is what Troy, or even King Arthur, should have been. Go see it!

As for the accuracy debate, I thought Miller's solution worked very well. I, for one, would far rather see these unarmoured acrobatics than some half-baked middle ground (First Knight, anyone?), or fake-looking heavy mail.


Longest. Heavy. Metal. Video. Evar.

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So what's next? Sin City...300....Ronin?

Grand Lodge

301: Xerxes' Son's Revenge


Heathansson wrote:
So what's next? Sin City...300...Ronin?

That would be awesome!!

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Saw it yesterday. Very, very cool! "Fighting in the shade", indeed. I love how exaggerated and over the top certain parts were. Xyrxes (spelling?), for example was like nearly 8 ft. tall and perfectly chiseled. The phalanx fighting in the Hot Gates was extremely cool. Overall, I left the theatre very pleased.

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Steve Greer wrote:
Saw it yesterday. Very, very cool! "Fighting in the shade", indeed. I love how exaggerated and over the top certain parts were. Xyrxes (spelling?), for example was like nearly 8 ft. tall and perfectly chiseled. The phalanx fighting in the Hot Gates was extremely cool. Overall, I left the theatre very pleased.

I was wondering where they got that giant, too - so I looked up imdb.com when I got home. Turns out the guy playing Xerxes is actually shorter in RL than the guy playing the head Greek... Yet more special effects - but so well done that I didn't really notice it.

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