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Well, I am not up on current events; but with Captain Marvel comes Eon and the original Captain Marvel had an Infinity Gem; so guess with those two players, Eon being the icon of the continuance of Life and the Life Struggle, guess his champions could come back whenever though I am guessing Thanos probably collected all the Infinity Gems - which in my opinion was silliness on a massive scale by the eldars of the universe. Now I hear tell that Eon is dead; but has a kid who is the new Icon of life; so I am guessing that the Captian Marvel bands are still around; hard to believe they would go to a Skrull. Whatever happened to the Captain Marvel that was a colored girl who had all the electricity powers and was an Avenger? There was getting to be more Captain Marvels than I could keep track of; then they magnified that by changing spelling for some guy called Captain Mar-Vel; hehe and wasnt he a Kree and he wore the Nega Bands; whereas he and Wendel Vaugh are the only guys know the stories off; well; heard Wendel got killed so I dont know much about that; I only read the first couple years of his comic. So, now I hear Eon is dead and had some kid named Epoch and I guess Captain Marvel became Quasar a while back so not sure whats up with this story lines and with things heating up on Earth; I am guessing the Nega Bands, Infinity Gems and or Guantlet and the Quantem Bands are perhaps likely to make and entrance. Something on that scale is something Thor would pay attention to; after all; Eon being the Norse idea of the "Celestial Axis manifested as Yggdrasil the World Tree). Eon's principal function was to nurture the evolution of the sentient life forms of the universe and to maintain conditions conducive to life within the universe" <- per Marvel.

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Didn't he have some time as the "Nomad" too, or was that always a separate character?
Steve Rogers turned in his Shield and became "Nomad" for a time after Richard Nixon, president of the U.S. committed suicide upon being revealed as the leader of the Secret Society. The Nomad identity was later taken up by the fellow who used to be the Bucky to the 1950's Captain America IV (the fascist who wound up in suspended animation) I think someone else has taken up that cape in present time, but I don't recall who.

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JuanNavarro wrote:Steve Rogers turned in his Shield and became "Nomad" for a time after Richard Nixon, president of the U.S. committed suicide upon being revealed as the leader of the Secret Society. The Nomad identity was later taken up by the fellow who used to be the Bucky to the 1950's Captain America IV (the fascist who wound up in suspended animation) I think someone else has taken up that cape in present time, but I don't recall who.
Didn't he have some time as the "Nomad" too, or was that always a separate character?
Rikki Barns from counter earth (one of the only things about Heroes Reborn that didn't suck) is Nomad now.
Edit: and the other Nomad was Jack Munroe, the 1950's Bucky, not Cap. :-)

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LazarX wrote:Edit: and the other Nomad was Jack Munroe, the 1950's Bucky, not Cap. :-)
The Nomad identity was later taken up by the fellow who used to be the Bucky to the 1950's Captain America IV (the fascist who wound up in suspended animation) I think someone else has taken up that cape in present time, but I don't recall who.
That's what the original replier said. Just didn't use the actual name.

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Matthew Morris wrote:That's what the original replier said. Just didn't use the actual name.LazarX wrote:Edit: and the other Nomad was Jack Munroe, the 1950's Bucky, not Cap. :-)
The Nomad identity was later taken up by the fellow who used to be the Bucky to the 1950's Captain America IV (the fascist who wound up in suspended animation) I think someone else has taken up that cape in present time, but I don't recall who.
Ack, misread it. Sorry!

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We Thor fans are so fickle. No action we gripe, get some action, not epic enough. I think for myself, I was spoiled by Simonson.
I really don't think this was a fickle situation. They built up the fight between Thor and Doom as a big deal and then Thor turned Doom into a punk. I could care less about the Asgardian zombies, though I suppose it could have been presented better. The art panels were pretty dull, really.

Valegrim |

Ok; this post is full of spoilers so dont read it if you are not up on the story.
now, does Thor still have the Odinpower?
Wow Thor sure got ambushed; now; a few comics back Thor threatened to flood the world and cause worldwide storms if mortals attacked Asgard; so hope they dont forget.
Sentry is a Junky; lol; that is different; Norman is a dealer hehe.
am liking the story of the big guy and the news crew; am still bit sad about Bill that story; hope Kelda has a plan.
well, am enjoying the whole siege story really; love Doom; all the Avengers; looks to be a good slobberfest; just needs hulk
so? is Wonderman still around.

Lathiira |

Ok; this post is full of spoilers so dont read it if you are not up on the story.
now, does Thor still have the Odinpower?
Wow Thor sure got ambushed; now; a few comics back Thor threatened to flood the world and cause worldwide storms if mortals attacked Asgard; so hope they dont forget.Sentry is a Junky; lol; that is different; Norman is a dealer hehe.
am liking the story of the big guy and the news crew; am still bit sad about Bill that story; hope Kelda has a plan.
well, am enjoying the whole siege story really; love Doom; all the Avengers; looks to be a good slobberfest; just needs hulk
so? is Wonderman still around.
Thor had to more or less put the Odinpower into Mjollnir to repair it after damaging the hammer fighting his grandfather, so I think the answer is "no".
Yes, Thor got ambushed. I think that fight would have gone a bit differently all told.
Wonder Man isn't doing much these days; he did try something against Osborn but I don't remember what.

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Valegrim wrote:Ok; this post is full of spoilers so dont read it if you are not up on the story.
now, does Thor still have the Odinpower?
Wow Thor sure got ambushed; now; a few comics back Thor threatened to flood the world and cause worldwide storms if mortals attacked Asgard; so hope they dont forget.Sentry is a Junky; lol; that is different; Norman is a dealer hehe.
am liking the story of the big guy and the news crew; am still bit sad about Bill that story; hope Kelda has a plan.
well, am enjoying the whole siege story really; love Doom; all the Avengers; looks to be a good slobberfest; just needs hulk
so? is Wonderman still around.
Thor had to more or less put the Odinpower into Mjollnir to repair it after damaging the hammer fighting his grandfather, so I think the answer is "no".
Yes, Thor got ambushed. I think that fight would have gone a bit differently all told.
Wonder Man isn't doing much these days; he did try something against Osborn but I don't remember what.
As stated, Thor used the Odinpower to fix Mjolnir. So he's back to his old self.
Wonderman is a chump.Sentry is not a junky. Sentry is a psychopath. A very, very powerful and dangerous psychopath.
Hulk is busy in his own story. I don't really think this story needs Hulk anyway. I kind of wish they'd kill Hulk off.
The fight with Thor in Siege was pretty bogus.

Valegrim |

yeah; Thor hasnt acted yet; so am still holding my breath.
As for Sentry as a junkie; do you want the issue and page numbers for what I am talking about; Sentry said he lied about his background and told her girlfriend all about it; a junkie that broke into a lab for a fix; but got some super serum instead; still has craves; Norman Osborn has recreated the formula and gives him the "juice" from time to time to keep Sentry happy and in his pocket.
hmm dont remember Thor using the Odin power to do that; the hammer is of Uru metal and originally created by Dwarves; I have some old Thor and Avengers where Thor fixes it using Ironmans stuff when it got broke once before. I thought that Dr. Strange fixed the hammer for Thor and told him there would be some consequences.
I was just trying to think of other Avengers, even West Coast Avengers that are mover and shakers that I havent heard a peep out of; Strange that Hercules is not involved; him and Thor are blood brothers and each has fought for the others godly realm before and as Ares said in Seige; they are allies and Zues has decreed it.

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yeah; Thor hasnt acted yet; so am still holding my breath.
As for Sentry as a junkie; do you want the issue and page numbers for what I am talking about; Sentry said he lied about his background and told her girlfriend all about it; a junkie that broke into a lab for a fix; but got some super serum instead; still has craves; Norman Osborn has recreated the formula and gives him the "juice" from time to time to keep Sentry happy and in his pocket.
hmm dont remember Thor using the Odin power to do that; the hammer is of Uru metal and originally created by Dwarves; I have some old Thor and Avengers where Thor fixes it using Ironmans stuff when it got broke once before. I thought that Dr. Strange fixed the hammer for Thor and told him there would be some consequences.
I was just trying to think of other Avengers, even West Coast Avengers that are mover and shakers that I havent heard a peep out of; Strange that Hercules is not involved; him and Thor are blood brothers and each has fought for the others godly realm before and as Ares said in Seige; they are allies and Zues has decreed it.
Hm, interesting. I don't find Sentry all that interesting, so I missed that story. He's still psychotic, though. ;-)
Dr. Strange did the actual fixing of the hammer, but the Odinforce is where he got the juice for it. As a result, Thor was reduced in power and his lifeforce is now connected to Mjolnir.I am inclined to agree on the lack of Hercules. He should be in this.
And I really, really want to see Sentry get wacked. Can't stand the character.

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hehe, I think he will get wacked; I cant see Marvel having that character not get him moment of hubris and be in Norman Osborne's downfall. Kinda funny that Sentry is a juicer; as per some games; and they always burn bright then crash and burn; I doubt there is any redemption for him so your very likely to get your wish :)

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Well, Thor and Sentry are still going at it, am really curious to how it will end; meanwhile; am reading a lot of Thor back issues and getting caught up on the story; hadnt realized that Thor had already had Asgard above New York City and had taken over the world only to have the whole thing turned back undone by the Tomorrow Man who convinced Thor the whole Asgard on Earth was a bad idea; so why is this whole Siege thing happening; wonder why Thor brought Asgard to Oklahoma; like a wierd double take.

Valegrim |

Well, I guess we will get Marvel's answer to this; Thor and Sentry are at it as we speak; still; Thor hasnt fought as intelligent as he has in the past; he could have used the magic of the hammer to throw all these bad guys half way across the universe or in some other dimension; though; that may perhaps have been anticlimatic.

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Well, I guess we will get Marvel's answer to this; Thor and Sentry are at it as we speak; still; Thor hasnt fought as intelligent as he has in the past; he could have used the magic of the hammer to throw all these bad guys half way across the universe or in some other dimension; though; that may perhaps have been anticlimatic.
Remember that Thor was "depowered" in that one-shot issue with Doctor Strange... my guess is that from now on we'll see a less god-like Thor and more something along the lines of a strong superhuman that flies (Ms. Marvel meet Storm kinda power). I'm pretty sure that Thor/Siege has done a good job setting up Balder as the new liege of Asgard, so when the new Asgard pops up in the outer planes, it will be Balder's to rule methinks. Those who have read "Siege: Loki" also know that there's some spring cleaning going on in the multiverse... he's also a new power to reckon with his new "brides"....

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Valegrim wrote:Well, I guess we will get Marvel's answer to this; Thor and Sentry are at it as we speak; still; Thor hasnt fought as intelligent as he has in the past; he could have used the magic of the hammer to throw all these bad guys half way across the universe or in some other dimension; though; that may perhaps have been anticlimatic.Remember that Thor was "depowered" in that one-shot issue with Doctor Strange... my guess is that from now on we'll see a less god-like Thor and more something along the lines of a strong superhuman that flies (Ms. Marvel meet Storm kinda power). I'm pretty sure that Thor/Siege has done a good job setting up Balder as the new liege of Asgard, so when the new Asgard pops up in the outer planes, it will be Balder's to rule methinks. Those who have read "Siege: Loki" also know that there's some spring cleaning going on in the multiverse... he's also a new power to reckon with his new "brides"....
Thor wasn't depowered. This new series saw him starting out with the Odinforce, essentially making him a cosmic entity. He was then downgraded back to his original god-like power level. That was still the Thor that went toe to toe with the Hulk.

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well; it sure has me gripping the chair with my butt puckered; hehe. Still; Thor hasnt used most of his powerset yet; he could be causing thunder; lighting; rain; wind; tornadoes, sending peeps to other planes; all stuff he did in the old avengers and thor comics.
am enjoying it so far; nice art most of the time as well.

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well; it sure has me gripping the chair with my butt puckered; hehe. Still; Thor hasnt used most of his powerset yet; he could be causing thunder; lighting; rain; wind; tornadoes, sending peeps to other planes; all stuff he did in the old avengers and thor comics.
am enjoying it so far; nice art most of the time as well.
I kind of liked his "fight" with Dakken. :-)

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Valegrim wrote:I kind of liked his "fight" with Dakken. :-)well; it sure has me gripping the chair with my butt puckered; hehe. Still; Thor hasnt used most of his powerset yet; he could be causing thunder; lighting; rain; wind; tornadoes, sending peeps to other planes; all stuff he did in the old avengers and thor comics.
am enjoying it so far; nice art most of the time as well.
Sentry almost popped Thor's melon though... good thing he's such a nutcase and he ADD'ed away from our fave thunder god! :P
My gut feel is that Thor has been depowered though... and that some villains could really mess him up if they play the "we have your hammer" card... but that's just a gut feel.. :P

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Yeah, I think that as well; Thor seems to change drastically one comic to the next; have been reading him for years and years and sometimes he can fight guys with cosmic power like the Living Planet; has talked to celestials and all kinds of guys; fought everybody; and sometimes gets pimped easy and I am like; what the heck. Guess it is a difficult task writer to writer to sort out who is how tuff at what time; at least with a guy like Gladiator; we understand that his power level changes by his self confidence; but with Thor; I remember various times when he was cursed by Hela or Loki or some other spell and his power level decreased; Odin has punished him several times lowering his power level; but I had thought that he was ramped up as tuff as ever for this fight; guess I am just waiting for him to get his anger back and lay some smack down; his godly rage is a pretty cool powerup; Odin has warned him about it lots of times.

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He's certainly displayed a lack of battle-lust or tenacity, whatever you call it, during this whole Siege fight. Each Siege issue shows what various little groups are doing around Asgard, but I have yet to see a decent display of what Thor is achieving. It's like he's not there or something, or like the authors are downplaying him for the benefit of other heroes.
As much as I LOVE Cap America and Bucky, and believe me, I *DO*, I find it odd that a low power like Cap is enough to get Norman away from Thor, but that Thor couldn't??? element of surprise? greater battle tactics? perhaps... and one could see that of a soldier that's been around as long as Steve Rogers. Maybe that's what's missing with Thor: he's a god, and by definition static and not evolving/learning like mortals do (i.e. gods don't pick up levels maybe... maybe growth and betterment of oneself is reserved for mortals?) But shouldn't his mortal half, Donald Blake, be there for exactly JUST that? to provide the growth and perspective that Thor's missing?
There's also the fact that he's not the god of battle/war... I mean sure gods are powerful, but I'm not sure the Goddess of Butterflies and Flower Pollination could do anything in a battle, if you get my meaning...

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PDK,
For the crime of killing his gradfather, Thor has been exiled from Asgard.
And, while it was Odin who was designated Lord of Battles, all of the male Aesir were war gods. (In my mind, I substitute " (bumpelty-headed) Klingon" for "Norse", and it always makes sense.)
Which was a BS, Loki-initiated exile as we all know that the "grandfather" was being deceived into seeing monsters that weren't really there... sigh...
War gods? don't think so... Thor's idea of war is to stand up front of his 2-million 3 hit dice so called "Asgardian gods" and absorb all the trauma for himself... a "War" god would display some level of strategy once in a while. Thor is just the heir/monarch son of a greater power, so yes, powerful, but "War" god? no way... too ADD for that I'm afraid.
Ares was technically a war god... someone at Marvel decided to display that about 5min before he was killed by Sentry by having Ares do a big HAMMER soldier rally... so while the implementation was lame, the comics still backed that "WAR" god designator.

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ok; well we all know Ares isnt really dead right; i could put a spoiler if you need more info; he has sorta died several times; being a god means it just takes a while to put himself back together unless Zues does something. I like how we are getting more characterization from Tyr and Heimdal and Kelda; OMG Kelda, who knew; whew. I too have been dissappointed in the lack of writing about Thor; even in his own comic; and we see Fandral; but where are Hogun and the other guy; am surprized the Warriors Three are not yet together.
guess we gotta wait a few more weeks.

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yeah... liked the "father-son" talk between Ares and Phobos (or was it Diemos? twins are hard to tell apart in a comic book unless you put a discerning trait...)
Don't worry about a spoiler saying Ares could come back... LOL! it would be like putting a spoiler for a Simpsons comic book saying that Snake might re-offend... :P

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ok; well we all know Ares isnt really dead right; i could put a spoiler if you need more info; he has sorta died several times; being a god means it just takes a while to put himself back together unless Zues does something. I like how we are getting more characterization from Tyr and Heimdal and Kelda; OMG Kelda, who knew; whew. I too have been dissappointed in the lack of writing about Thor; even in his own comic; and we see Fandral; but where are Hogun and the other guy; am surprized the Warriors Three are not yet together.
guess we gotta wait a few more weeks.
Zeus is quite dead right now Valegrim. I mean REALLY quite dead; Thanatos took Zeus and Hera himself (that's the god of death, not Hades, god of the dead). Athena ascended to the throne of Olympus. Think she wants Ares back?
The Warriors Three you'll recall were together, but the advent of Siege has put Volstagg to one side, Fandral and Hogun to the other. I'm sure they'll reunite soon enough.

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wow, Zeus dead eh; didnt know; he was Odin's ally; so as their both dead; that explains why the Greeks didnt come to their aid as well as a few other details. As for Athena; not sure what she wants really matters; Ares, at least in mythology; and Athena preside over very different parts of War; thus both war gods will probably be around as long as there are wars.
Was the Thanatos that killed Zues the same one Drax the Destroyer kept fighting and that line; who served death and killed half the galaxy if I remember right?

Lathiira |

wow, Zeus dead eh; didnt know; he was Odin's ally; so as their both dead; that explains why the Greeks didnt come to their aid as well as a few other details. As for Athena; not sure what she wants really matters; Ares, at least in mythology; and Athena preside over very different parts of War; thus both war gods will probably be around as long as there are wars.
Was the Thanatos that killed Zues the same one Drax the Destroyer kept fighting and that line; who served death and killed half the galaxy if I remember right?
I only mentioned Athena because you said that Zeus might help get Ares back together. Athena is unlikely to give her half-brother the same courtesy, I think.
As for Thanatos, I don't think they're the same ones, but I don't know for sure. And Thanatos didn't kill Zeus, he merely claimed his soul (or something like that); it was Typhon, unleashed by Hera, that did that. Typhon promptly killed Hera as well before a badly-injured Hercules bashed him good.

Valegrim |

The Thor story is progressing pretty much as expected; I wonder what Kelda is up to with the Bill situatioin being what it is; hmm. I like their story. Can't think of where the Thor story might go from here; will he seek out Stark; will he regroup with his old mortal friends; there is the Doom question as well.
There is a new Thor comic out; at number one; but sheesh does it have very lame artwork. Its called Thor the Mighty Avenger; first issue has Mr. Hyde in it; story isnt bad; but ugh the artwork.

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the current Thor title; main comic; is taking place in Mephistos hell and is a bit wierd; am riding it through until they get back to what is happening with all the going on in the US in comics. Am liking the Kelda/Bill story.
Well I've mixed feelings in getting Thunderstrike 'back' (I loved the character and have the entire run of his own series, I just think his 'death' was well handled and he should be at peace) I'm hoping it's Kevin, not Eric, with the mace.
Also, Thor *might* be showing up in X-Factor as a guest shot. Jane was there and warned Jamie about Hela, she also put a call in to 'Don' and suggested that he might want to swing by...

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Hey; did you guys see the cover of Loki 1 of 4 miniseries; priceless hehe. I also have the Thor/Iron Man team up God Coplex part1; this story line of the other dimension invading that has been happening has me a little worried; I thought there were big cosmic powers like the celestials and whatnot to do something about this sort of thing.

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the current Thor title; main comic; is taking place in Mephistos hell and is a bit wierd; am riding it through until they get back to what is happening with all the going on in the US in comics. Am liking the Kelda/Bill story.
I actually really liked the Mephisto storyline. I like it when Thor gets to interact with the other magical/spiritual/eternal entities in the Marvel Universe, and I thought the storyline was enjoyable.
I've gone the opposite direction of PDK, in that I just recently quit on Avengers. Yet another reboot/renumbering/reshuffling of the titles? Pass. I was pretty close to ditching X-Men as well. The comics I've been enjoying most lately have been Knights of the Dinner Table and Thor, and the two Green Lantern books have been pretty enjoyable as well. At bucks a pop, though, I no longer have any patience for the resurgence of the ultramegasuperduper crossover garbage we had to wade through in the early 90s. If that's the way comics are going, then I am out.

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can't wait for the movie...
did you read "Fear Itself: Number One" where Odin says "Mjolnir: DOWN!" and Thor looks dumbfounded to the ground as his hammer stops working... the next page sees Odin recreating a new rainbow bridge and leads all the Norse gods to the proper non-material plane Asgard (read: away from Earth)

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Just saw the movie. Not bad. Much better than I feared. I WILL KILL DIRECTORS USING SHAKY CAM TECHNIQUE!!!
Also nice Cameo by Hawkeye, as well as mentions of Tony Stark and a cameo by Nick Fury.
Don't forget Bruce Banner and Stan's Cameo. (and Donald Blake... I half expected them to dress Thor up like Thunderstrike)