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I'm surprised Seelah is included since she was part of Wrath of the Righteous. I was under the impression iconics tended to sit out once they had an AP run.
Yeah, but you gotta understand...she's needs to keep smiting people, or Iomedae's going to get on her case.
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We're not so much concerned now about not repeating iconics than about having thematically appropriate iconics for each AP. You obviously want a paladin smiting demons in Wrath of the Righteous, but we also wanted the iconics for Mummy's Mask to all be from Garund (and there's plenty of undead-smiting for Seelah to do in Mummy's Mask as well).
In short, theme trumps repetition.
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Do we know all 4 iconics yet? Does it normally take this long to find out?We've already revealed Alahazra, Seelah, and Kyra. And the last iconic is: Balazar!
Balazar's black?!?!?
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...what, you said there was a theme...
we also wanted the iconics for Mummy's Mask to all be from Garund
Oh nevermind, I see your mind now.
Do we know all 4 iconics yet? Does it normally take this long to find out?We've already revealed Alahazra, Seelah, and Kyra. And the last iconic is: Balazar!
Now you know all four. :)
Woot! Balazar! FINALLY! :D
It would be nice for this AP to feature Aldinach and her cult....
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It would be nice for this AP to feature Aldinach and her cult....
How about Areshkagal instead?
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And we're only about 30 days away!
Oh Samy you poor dear, is your shipping 11-40 business days like mine?
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I wouldn't know, Mummy's Mask is my first subscription...but probably yeah.
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SO in this adventure will the party be effectively grave robbers? Not to give to much away, but wouldn't most goodly types (paladins, ect) scoff at such a notion? I am very curious to see what the angle is on this, as that would seem to be the likely initial hook.
From what I can tell its a sanctioned delve to recover lost treasure, so not really.
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SO in this adventure will the party be effectively grave robbers? Not to give to much away, but wouldn't most goodly types (paladins, ect) scoff at such a notion?
As per the blurb for the first adventure:
In Wati, the half city, the church of Pharasma holds a lottery allowing explorers to delve the tombs of the city’s vast necropolis in search of the nation’s lost glories.
So, if an official organization is not only sanctioning, but outright encouraging the tomb delving, I would imagine they have some sort of authorization. Probably closer to a university archeological team than grave robbers I'm guessing.
...but...but that would SPOIL the reading experience!!!!you get the pdf right way though don't you?I wouldn't know, Mummy's Mask is my first subscription...but probably yeah.The joy of not being in the North American continent :D
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+1...but...but that would SPOIL the reading experience!!!!you get the pdf right way though don't you?I wouldn't know, Mummy's Mask is my first subscription...but probably yeah.The joy of not being in the North American continent :D
pffft I cant believe its not paper works form me. I did just sub up though so excited!
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It's a shame that we can't get a Player's Guide out early so that I can entice my players and get them thinking about characters prior to the arrival of the first book!
We get to be indiana Jones characters......likely the ones with the uniforms!!
It does sound an odd premise....long to hear the iconic Paladins motives in this.
It does sound an odd premise....long to hear the iconic Paladins motives in this.
I believe the iconics selected for this AP were chosen because they were originally from the Garund region.
I think he meant Seelah's in-game motivation to participate, rather than the out-of-game reason why she was chosen to be in the AP.
Having not read the AP yet, my guess is that she's more there to smite any undead that should arise...but this is speculation on my part.
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I don't want to step on Rob's toes, but I have to answer the question with a question? Why does any paladin involve themselves in any adventure that is not totally selfless and altruistic?
The fact that the authorities have opened these burial sites for exploration covers the legal aspect to it.
It a good few thousands of years since the original decimation of Wati. The dead in the Boneyard are judged and no longer require their grave goods to identify or comfort them.
A paladin might be seeking to learn about the past. They might be protecting scholars from traps and unwholesome threats while they do their work. They might be collecting treasure to re-purpose it to help the needy, hungry, and oppressed. Even equipment used to combat evil is a justifiable expense.
Sooner or later, Pharasma judges the dead. Even if takes a while. Then this mortal coil is no longer relevant in the Great Beyond.
Hmm.ok. Guess that all makes sense. Ta.
Never really got Pharasma either, but am looking forward to the mod.
Hmm.ok. Guess that all makes sense. Ta.
Never really got Pharasma either, but am looking forward to the mod.
The Pharasmins you might find explained. THAT was something Rob and I were discussing last June. And yeah, that's how far out the whole AP process is. How that topic is presented is something I'm going to leave the book to address by itself. Things can be adjusted and changed in development, and I haven't seen the final version yet.
Wow! That rocks Jim Groves!
@Jim Groves: May i kindly turn your attention to the Shahmaker thread? I would love your comments on some houserules and scenario stuff there!
Others are of course welcome too. Thanks a lot!
Player guide soon? :)
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Can't wait to see how the monsters turned out!
Also curious, anyone know how far before publication they usually release a players guide?
I'll third the motion for for more info on the Player Guide.
I'm very excited about this AP. So very excited. But I've felt this way about the AP line for several years now, so I'm not sure when the excitement will ever end. Not this year anyway. Maybe next year all the writers will go on vacation to the moon and they'll need to fill in the gaps with awful fanfic for 12 months - then I can finally stop feeling so giddy from month to month. Until then, I guess I'll have to stomach these feelings of anticipation and satisfaction. ;)
Part of it, for this issue, probably has to do with the fact that Jim Groves is 2 for 2 so far in back-to-back APs. And I can't imagine this issue will do anything but up his score to 3 for 3. High expectations and all that.
Also curious, anyone know how far before publication they usually release a players guide?
From what I can remember it's usually the same week they first start shipping subscriber orders. Though I believe, it has been pushed back to street date on rare occasion.
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For mysterious reasons known only to me, I feel pretty good about this one. ;)
We'll we should get a free players guide in a couple of weeks.
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Not to disappoint you too much, but that information is not in the Player's Guide. It is not assumed that the PCs are worshiping the ancient gods. We've talked about getting some basic information out there before Pathfinder #80 comes out to help facilitate this in play, but nothing is decided at this point.
I am personally very hopeful that the AP's Player's Guide will include a basic breakdown of the Osiriani pantheon, since I have two different players who have expressed interest in being worshippers of those gods.
That would be great but considering the talk on JJ's thread, probably not. But at least a table would be nice.
Not to disappoint you too much, but that information is not in the Player's Guide. It is not assumed that the PCs are worshiping the ancient gods.
Why have a Campaign Trait that does assume that, then?
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I am personally very hopeful that the AP's Player's Guide will include a basic breakdown of the Osiriani pantheon, since I have two different players who have expressed interest in being worshippers of those gods.That would be great but considering the talk on JJ's thread, probably not. But at least a table would be nice.
Yeah, that'd be enough to get going with. Alignment, domains, favored weapon - we could fudge it until next month if we could get started that far, anyway.
Not to disappoint you too much, but that information is not in the Player's Guide. It is not assumed that the PCs are worshiping the ancient gods.Why have a Campaign Trait that does assume that, then?
I agree - it seems odd to include a Campaign Trait that specifically calls out that sort of thing, and not include the necessary mechanics at the same time...