Calel101 |
Can't wait to make my Edward and Bella characters! Also this could lend itself to all those Blade, Buffy, and Van Helsing characters people want. As long as no one played a Keanu Reeves character I'm good.
All joking aside I am now the most excited about this as I have ever been, like a gitty little twilight fan waiting for the climactic ending of the twilight series. I am really excited for this.
Stratagemini |
Calel101 wrote:As long as no one played a Keanu Reeves character I'm good.I played a cleric of Sarenrae (named Borachio) who talked like Keanu Reeves. Mainly he sounded like Keanu Reeves because I really like to say "Borachio" in a Keanu Reeves voice.
Was he a Vampire worshiping Sarenrae as the incarnation of Destruction and final death?
Golden-Esque |
Cheapy wrote:If it's Sparklepires the only spells I want to cast on them are Searing Rays followed by Sunbeam and Sunburst. But your explanation works too.F. Wesley Schneider wrote:I believe that Eric forgot to mention that he just cast Glitterdust on them.Eric Hinkle wrote:Yes, but they SPARKLE! in the sunlight when they do. (So, so sorry.)You're off the force McHinkle. Turn over your badge and your d20s.
YOU FIEND!
Twilight's Vampires don't burn in sunlight! Your spells only make them SPARKLE BRIGHTER!
If you want to kill a Twilight Vampire, you apparently need to chop it up, stuff its parts in little bags, and then burn them.
MerrikCale |
Vic Wertz wrote:In the novel series Noble Dead(I think that is the series name) the first book called ironically enough Dhampir, she falls in love during the series. It is by Barb Hendee, cool book series. Sorta DnDish fantasy series. :)Wolf Munroe wrote:The book. Hoping it has lots of dhampir love.Can dhampirs truly love?
the few first books of that series were entertaining. I liked her half-elf assassin sidekick and thier fey dog
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Nodnarb |
In the words of Rainbow Dash, "Ohmygosh Ohmygosh Ohmygosh!"
Also, I'm quite sure we can all trust Paizo to not allow any of the vampires in this, or any Pathfinder book, to sparkle in the sunlight (unless it is directly followed by them bursting into flames).
Benchak the Nightstalker Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8 |
Can't wait to make my Edward and Bella characters! Also this could lend itself to all those Blade, Buffy, and Van Helsing characters people want. As long as no one played a Keanu Reeves character I'm good.
All joking aside I am now the most excited about this as I have ever been, like a gitty little twilight fan waiting for the climactic ending of the twilight series. I am really excited for this.
I can't make my Keanu Reeves character until they do a book on Time Travel. :)
Jeff Erwin Contributor |
chopswil |
Berselius wrote:Quote:Twilight's Vampires don't burn in sunlight!Were is Dracula now a days? I want him back dagnabbit!Dracula doesn't burn in sunlight, either.
Burning in sunlight is a movie concept, embraced by Anne Rice and a certain other RPG.
I can recall several Dracula movies with Christopher Lee where there was burning in sunlight
Wolf Munroe |
Pathfinder vampires burn in sunlight though. So that's the most important part for this supplement.
In the story of Carmilla, she seemed to be active any time after noon. (They never saw her until "late in the day" or something along those lines.)
When Dracula was out in the day, was it overcast? I don't remember.
Also, I don't know if I mentioned it before but that mock-up cover for this one looks awesome. I hope the finished cover looks as good.
Jeff Erwin Contributor |
Jim Groves Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4 |
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@ Jeff I never knew that about Dracula. My wife confirmed it (not that I had any reason to doubt you). I've been telling myself I need to read Stoker for years.
I'm a fan of the BBC version of Being Human which I like a great deal. (Not so much the American version, but my wife is British, and I watched that version first and it's what I became accustomed to)
Their vampires don't burn in sunlight, but they don't care for t. They're always slightly overdressed for the weather too. The show never makes a point of mentioning or drawing attention to it, but my wife thinks it's a nod to the source material.
The BBC Being Human is quite a good compromise for vampire fans, because the majority of them are the old fashioned soulless killers, but they explore what it means to transcend your nature.. and do so without sparkling. Again, I don't know about the American version.
Jim Groves Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4 |
Sorry Vic.
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I like that the content is partially divided into playing with vampire options, but can also be used to oppose or fight those types of characters. That gives you some options either way.
While I'm fairly traditional in character choice, a lot of my players like to have some options beyond the Core Rulebook. I don't always allow it, but its great to have the options there just in case.
Alexander Augunas Contributor |
Dark_Mistress |
Dark_Mistress wrote:the few first books of that series were entertaining. I liked her half-elf assassin sidekick and thier fey dogVic Wertz wrote:In the novel series Noble Dead(I think that is the series name) the first book called ironically enough Dhampir, she falls in love during the series. It is by Barb Hendee, cool book series. Sorta DnDish fantasy series. :)Wolf Munroe wrote:The book. Hoping it has lots of dhampir love.Can dhampirs truly love?
Yeah i liked the series a lot and the characters, I thought it was the best done Dhampir in a novel to date. Hopefully someone at Paizo that helped make this book read those novels. :)
Stratagemini |
What would Blood of the Dragon give us though? In Blood of fiends there are different fiendish ancestors to split among tieflings. Blood of angels has the same for Celestials. Blood of the night, well I wouldn't be surprised if there were Dhampir bloodlines like the Tieflings in Blood of Fiends. But there's no Dragon-blooded race besides Kobolds, and Sorcerors too I guess. Blood of the Fey may be more likely. Or Blood of the Djinn, dealing with Ifit, Undine, Sylph, Suli and Oread races.
Grey Lensman |
I could see blood of the dragon granting options for heritage from all different dragons (including but not limited to kobolds), variant sorcerer bloodlines that capture the powers of the specific dragon aside from breath weapons, archetypes for druids and other classes, and options for dragon-like mounts for paladins and cavaliers.
Gorbacz |
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The moment PF has Dragonspawned (complete with boobies and a "play this race if you want to be a proud dragon and roar!" blurb) a part of me will die inside. I do oh so much love how dragons are faaar and awaaay from mortal shenanigans (unlike, say, Forgotten Realms).
Steelfiredragon |
wyblood of dragons would only have kobolds half dragons, and that one outsider thats dragonlike....
not sure why Paizo would want to waste the time on it.
blood of trickers would do better for kobolds.
and for the last time dragons are reptilian but are not reptiles or mammals and the same for the dragonborn.
vampires on the otherhand are litterally one foot in the grave
MMCJawa |
James Jacobs has said in the past that they are very much against a Golarion Dragonborn type race, as they feel it would make dragons feel less special when a party has to actually face off against one.
It wouldn't surprise me though if one of the example races in the Advanced Race Guide wasn't something like a dragon-like race. That way they can satisfy people who want a Paizo "Draconian", without actually setting in stone that they exist in the setting.
Although, if Triaxus ever gets further development, given the involvement of dragons on that world, I would be pretty shocked if there wasn't a "Draconian" race.
Dragon78 |
You mean like Daenerys from Game of Thrones were dragon traits are a lot less obvious?
I would like a Aasimar/Tiefling style Dragon race like that were they look human(mostly). As long as we get energy resistance 10, save bonuses vs sleep and paralysis, darkvision and lowlight vision and a +2Str and Cha I will be happy.
eleclipse |
Something like that,
When i say "tiefling-like" i think about something with "random" traits that let a player have very few dragon esthetic "feature" and let another player to have a lot of draconic "feature", just like a tiefling that can be very human-like with just a strange skin colour or something similar and also he can be so demon-like that it would be hard to think of him as a human.
This way one can have the look he prefer. I love blood of fiends and i would totally love to see a very similar book on the dragons, with bloodlines, a "new race" playable by the pc (expecially something tiefling-like in the mechanic, as i said above)and all sort of interesting stuff one can came up regarding dragons (a lot) :)
Grey Lensman |
One thing that I liked in 3.5 were the splatbooks Races of the Dragon and Dragon Magic, which offered feats for 'dragon-touched' PCs, and races that had some draconic flavor without turning into 'lizards with breasts'. Additionally, it what was in my opinion a far superior version of the dragon disciple prestige class (exact name escapes me) that concentrated more on magic/breath weapons and less on physical abilities.
But I think speculation and hopes for something like this probably belong in a different thread.
Gorbacz |
Books in this line are Golarion-specific, and in Golarion dragons play a quite different role. They're distant and removed, and not entwined in affairs of mortals... and as result, not much cross-breeding happens. Exceptions such as Kazavon or Mengkare are seen as aberrations by other dragons. It would be rather hard to fit dragon-related stuff that pertains to mortals in a Golarion book, alas.
Stratagemini |
Kazavon was crazy enough that he built his entire castle to human scale. He's like the dragon equivalent of a Furry on the internet today i'd guess. So yeah, If there was a Blood of Dragons book it probably wouldn't have a full draconic race. Half-Dragons are not PC race, they're a monster template. I suppose you could do separate sorcerer bloodlines for each type of dragon some Bardic Masterpieces. There's already a Dragon themed Druid, but you could have a draconic themed Ranger or Cleric. Or an alchemist archetype that dabbles in using dragon blood for his reagents or such.
But so far the Blood books have been focused on a race, and there really isn't a draconic race in golarion besides Kobolds.
eleclipse |
I don't think it's a real problem, the world is vast, not fully explored and even in the well-know area something new can always be added without damage by a skilled writer.
The fact that a would-be dragonic-mixed-race can be hated by the dragons make this only more interestig (so the tiefling must hide their heritage since it's evil and the would-be-dragon-race have to do the same since they are despize by dragon and bring misfortune on the village where they live.
All pure speculation off course, just saying it would be nice and the story isn't really a problem, imo.
/OT
Matthew Morris RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8 |
Another thing to keep in mind about 'dragon blooded' is time.
One of the characters I (try to) write about is descended from a blue dragon. WAYYYY descended, like 8 or 10 (human) generations back. The only 'dragon trait' he shows is an affinity for lightning spells. Basically his dragon ancestor struck a bargain with his human ancestor, and they um, were fruitful and prospered. The dragon (now a great wyrm) has monitored his descendants kind of as a long term experiment. It's also part of his 'youthful indescression' phase as a young drake. "Why do the metalics find these mammals interesting?" *polymorph* "Ah, this is fun, like slumming!"
Gorbacz |
gang wrote:Who is this 'Tork Shaw' person? ;-)some weirdo :P
i too am superexcited about this. I'm very much hoping to capture some of the darkness, wonder, and brutality, of an affliction that simultaneously glorifies and debases the creatures it transforms.
Who are you and what have you done to my favorite goat!?
Tork Shaw |
Tork Shaw wrote:Who are you and what have you done to my favorite goat!?gang wrote:Who is this 'Tork Shaw' person? ;-)some weirdo :P
i too am superexcited about this. I'm very much hoping to capture some of the darkness, wonder, and brutality, of an affliction that simultaneously glorifies and debases the creatures it transforms.
ha! She's my wife now...
F. Wesley Schneider Contributor |
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Who is this 'Tork Shaw' person? ;-)
Tork has been my go-to guy for "OMG we need 'X' NOW" for the APs and other projects for a while now. You can see his name throughout the Jade Regent and Skull & Shackles Adventure Paths and will be seeing it even more in the coming months. He's a damn fine designer and good people (and gods help you if you jackals scare this one off!).
Tork, you're also kind of a rock star, so if you want, feel free to go on about your self a bit. The peoples, they want to know!
Dark_Mistress |
Tork Shaw wrote:Who is this 'Tork Shaw' person? ;-)Tork has been my go-to guy for "OMG we need 'X' NOW" for the APs and other projects for a while now. You can see his name throughout the Jade Regent and Skull & Shackles Adventure Paths and will be seeing it even more in the coming months. He's a damn fine designer and good people (and gods help you if you jackals scare this one off!).
Tork, you're also kind of a rock star, so if you want, feel free to go on about your self a bit. The peoples, they want to know!
So no more stalking him and popping out of his bedroom closet when he gets out of the shower anymore?