Can't wait for this product, don't really like the artstyle for the cover tho, and yeti and sasquatch?
Really cán't wait for the Bunyip, Water Orm, Mokele, Mothmen, Deathworm and Chupacabra tho!! Some of my favorite monsters in the paizo products!
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Not fond of this cover myself, it looks a bit too much like the Advanced Player's Guide cover. Would have rather seen a mothman or a bunyip on the cover.
As a native West Virginian, I have a special love of the mothman above the others. I was terrified of him when I was in elementary school because I got a book out of the library about American monsters. I read that he could fly 100 mph and I knew I lived less than 100 miles from where he was sighted. I was also terrified of grays when I was the same age, so I made up my own mythology in my head that linked them together. (I had a fear of abduction by aliens because of that commercial for that Time-Life books series that always splashed one up on the screen.)
Anyway... Looking forward to reading about the mothman. I hope his background in Golarion takes some of his stories around Point Pleasant Bridge into the narrative.
Gotta say Vinod Rams has gotten a lot better since the illustrations he did for Races of Faerûn.
This cover doesn't mean all pictures/art in the book is done by this artist is it? I hope it doesn't.
While its far FAR from ugly its just not my prefered style.
I would have liked the cover contained multiple monsters, like the Mothman + the Jersey Devil or Water Serpent, Water Orm + Bunyips.
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This cover doesn't mean all pictures/art in the book is done by this artist is it? I hope it doesn't.
While its far FAR from ugly its just not my prefered style.
Unfortunately I have to agree with this. I'm not a fan of the style used for this cover and it's not a cover that would make me want to pick up a copy and browse through it if I'd just seen the book at an FLGS. The book has a lot of stuff going for it, of course, not least of which is its subject matter, but the cover itself wouldn't sell the book to me.
Fortunately, tastes vary and I know quite a few gamers who'd pick this up in a heartbeat based on the cover alone.
I'll just look forward to the interior artwork. :)
This cover doesn't mean all pictures/art in the book is done by this artist is it? I hope it doesn't.
No, it doesn't mean all the art in the book is done by that artist.
is this supposed to also be listed under new products in the player Companion line?
No, it isn't. It looks like that was hooked up somehow, but it should be displaying correctly now.
The mokele-mbembe previously appeared in a volume of the Serpent's Skull Adventure Path, if I'm recalling correctly...
I wonder why the Yeti and Sasquatch need different chapters? Aren't they both essentially ape-men?
Or will they be going with 'Sasquatch is a hairy apemen in the deep woods, and the yeti is related to the Mi-Go/a hidden race of bestial mystics*/guardians of the secret hidden gates into Shangri-La (of they're good) or Asgartha (if they're evil)?
* -- Supposedly in legend a few yetis have become monks and even abbots of Himalayan Buddhist monasteries. Of course, that legend came by way of John Keel so YMMV. Also supposedly, smoking yeti dung will bring Enlightenment. Hey, don't ask me.
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Yeti and Sasquatch are indeed quite different creatures, as a glance at their stat blocks reveals. The yeti is more magical than the sasquatch, for one thing, and more dangerous. Sasquatches are more "natural world" creatures, while yetis are more "supernatural world" creatures.
And on top of that, there's a lot of different real-world cultural differences between the two. And on top of THAT, a lot of environmental differences.
Same thing goes for sea serpents and lake monsters.
Or goblins, hobgoblins, and bugbears.
Or elves and drow.
And so on.
I am very happy about this list, this is the first time in awhile that I have no problems with any choices in a revisited book.
Yeti and Sasquatch are indeed quite different creatures, as a glance at their stat blocks reveals. The yeti is more magical than the sasquatch, for one thing, and more dangerous. Sasquatches are more "natural world" creatures, while yetis are more "supernatural world" creatures.
And on top of that, there's a lot of different real-world cultural differences between the two. And on top of THAT, a lot of environmental differences.
Thanks for taking the time to clarify that. And that difference does fit in with the more mystic stories told about the yeti.
I like the one with the snake in the can gag and Sasquatch throws a real snake.
You know I am not sure wich critter I want to read about first.
Still not sure wich critter I want to read abot first, maybe I will just read them in order for once.
I can't wait ether, just got to to wait till monday/tuesday.
I got the email that says it will ship sometime next week.
This one has been great so far, I am really suprised nobody is talking about it.
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This one has been great so far, I am really suprised nobody is talking about it.
My problem is currently a mix of finals, shattered star 5, and blood of the night all sitting on my cpu at the same time. Makes for too many things to work on at the same time and unfortunately mystery monsters was just the last to download. That being said the stuff on the mothmen and the art for the bunyip look really promising, even more so when i think about my groetus cleric and that mothman summon he can eventually pull...
This one has been great so far, I am really suprised nobody is talking about it.
Glad you like it! It was a lot of fun to develop, and I even ended up using a Qaishan monk in my home game just recently.
I agree the breach ability shouldn't have been a feat but a universal monster ability.
This has been a great revisited volume. Love the artwork for Mokele and Water Orm, and way better than the originals. Some of the variants like the different bunyips or the Mothman Elder are pretty cool. Also like the short sidebars explaining where the monster is from. I would love to see these be a standard issue when Paizo adapts well-defined literary/cryptid/folklore monsters in their revisited and AP lines.
Some of the fluff is great. I like the implication that Sasquatch are native to Arcadia, and that people didn't start seeing Sasquatch in the Inner Sea regions until after the legend was introduced. Reminds me of how Sasquatch sightings used to be confined to the Pacific NW, but now are being seen everywhere (including HAWAII).
About the only complaint I can think of is that at times the book treats cryptids in Golarion as if they were met with huge amounts of Skepticism the same way we treat them on Earth. Given the types of creatures at large not treated with skepticism, it's hard to see what is so unusual about Sasquatch or Sea Serpents.
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This has been a great revisited volume. Love the artwork for Mokele and Water Orm, and way better than the originals. Some of the variants like the different bunyips or the Mothman Elder are pretty cool. Also like the short sidebars explaining where the monster is from. I would love to see these be a standard issue when Paizo adapts well-defined literary/cryptid/folklore monsters in their revisited and AP lines.
Some of the fluff is great. I like the implication that Sasquatch are native to Arcadia, and that people didn't start seeing Sasquatch in the Inner Sea regions until after the legend was introduced. Reminds me of how Sasquatch sightings used to be confined to the Pacific NW, but now are being seen everywhere (including HAWAII).
About the only complaint I can think of is that at times the book treats cryptids in Golarion as if they were met with huge amounts of Skepticism the same way we treat them on Earth. Given the types of creatures at large not treated with skepticism, it's hard to see what is so unusual about Sasquatch or Sea Serpents.
I don't know I actually like that level of skepticism for most of these guys considering even the ancient ones like the water orm and sea serpent have abilities to hide themselves from detection while many of the low level ones live in remote places where humans would be sparse and most likely uneducated making them unreliable witnesses for most scholarly folk to believe. That being said I would love to see other creatures more well known creatures treated the same way as these guys in other products, monsters can lose their mystique when it feels like everyone's taught about all of them.
That being said I would love to see other creatures more well known creatures treated the same way as these guys in other products, monsters can lose their mystique when it feels like everyone's taught about all of them.
Kinda like a monster trait that applies an enigma bonus to a Monster's CR for the purpose of Knowledge skill checks. So the more enigmatic a monster, the harder it is to know something useful about it.
Maybe a +10 bonus or something. That way you could have a CR2-3 creature that no-one knows anything about because its Knowledge DCs are 22-23, but it won't kill a level 1 party outright. Builds up the mystery and makes the players a little skittish to confront it.
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I made this in Photoshop and posted it on Reddit a while back. Clearly the most feared cryptid of all. I may just buy Mystery Monsters and glue it in on the back.
And before it's pointed out, yes I'm aware it's Dex should be 14 rather than 13.
I have always liked these revisited books so keep them comming good people of Paizo.
Is the Mkole whip supposed to be made from water-buffalo hide? From the writeup, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the cryptid. I would have thought it was made from their tail.