What are those two things with her? They look like Scooby Doo on PCP.Yeth hounds.
Thank you. I was wondering if they were supposed to be shadow hounds, but they didn't look right.
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Awesome.
I remember some very interesting and diverging developments focused on that character from different peoples' campaigns.
ROTRL spoilers
plz don't invite the cast of Hook Mountain Massacre to said reunion
Re Nualia
Not to be read by my Runelords players
Awesome cover!
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Awesome cover!Yes, awesome, though I was hoping for the Magus Iconic, considering he is an adventurer worshiper of an evil deity he would be a better person to be on the cover. Though that doesn't take away from this very awesome cover.
Seltyiel isn't Evil ... he's just ... deeply hurt and misunderstood ... yes, that includes detect evil spells.
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Seltyiel isn't Evil ... he's just ... deeply hurt and misunderstood ... yes, that includes detect evil spells.Awesome cover!Yes, awesome, though I was hoping for the Magus Iconic, considering he is an adventurer worshiper of an evil deity he would be a better person to be on the cover. Though that doesn't take away from this very awesome cover.
But he does worship an evil deity, one of only two iconics who do, so I though hew would be a good fit.
Actually the stats in the back of second darkness and council of thieves have him as LE. He is in fact the only evil iconic.
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Might be useful for a game set in Cheliax, for example. And then, some groups play with some of even all evil characters and can certainly use this book.Oh, I get it :) I just don't run evil campaigns, as I personally find it distasteful. But they sure are popular.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I'm Lawful Evil and I want to play good-aligned characters; it'd be kind of boring to play evil PCs, and Asmodeus knows it's a challenge to roleplay a Taldorian paladin of Iomedae or an Andoran dimwi... uh, Eagle Knight. ;)
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Seltyiel isn't Evil ... he's just ... deeply hurt and misunderstood ... yes, that includes detect evil spells.Awesome cover!Yes, awesome, though I was hoping for the Magus Iconic, considering he is an adventurer worshiper of an evil deity he would be a better person to be on the cover. Though that doesn't take away from this very awesome cover.
If you ask me, Seltyiel is pretty decent... for an elf! :)
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I agree on the new way some covers are being done. Though when I hear "heavy metal" combined with the evil deities, I'm left wondering what a heavy metal Asmodeus would look like.
Probably something like this. (*WARNING* Clip is from an R-rated movie; includes foul language and lewdness. NSFW!)
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I agree on the new way some covers are being done. Though when I hear "heavy metal" combined with the evil deities, I'm left wondering what a heavy metal Asmodeus would look like.Probably something like this. (*WARNING* Clip is from an R-rated movie; includes foul language and lewdness. NSFW!)
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That's a good link, it gave me some laughs. Thanks!
this both excites me and makes me sigh in potential dread. I'm hoping it's not another BoVD for evil even more than core evil, but the RAW evil alignments are so far out in Cartoon style extremism and Neutral's being so odd for an intelligent sentient creature that it leaves nowhere but RAI arguments for morally grey characters. This (5 pages & still going)thread over on the Oots forums shows that problem pretty well I think.
Something I'd love to see in this is some alignment options for the Grey "not good" and "not evil" style characters that don't make players have to convince GM's to put aside the Extremes detailed in RAW or past horrible examples of murdering psychopaths that often come from when people allowing evil characters :(. Dexter Morgan should fit somewhere better than Paladin style LG, but he doesn't even come close to fitting in LE or LN and fits LG really really well by RAW. If it can do it without using the word lawful & its frequent misconception that lawful alignments have to follow the laws rather than some specific code. To better allow for mobster type things that follow the rules the thieves guild has well above those of the local law that people often think woiuld need to be Neutral or chaotic
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Dexter Morgan should fit somewhere better than Paladin style LG, but he doesn't even come close to fitting in LE or LN and fits LG really really well by RAW...
The best way to build a "Dexter" type character in Pathfinder is to build a Lawful Good character and then give him an insanity, per the GameMastery Guide—either multiple personality disorder or psychosis.
The best way to build a "Dexter" type character in Pathfinder is to build a Lawful Good character and then give him an insanity, per the GameMastery Guide—either multiple personality disorder or psychosis.
Can I just say that I love those insanity rules? I wasn't even aware that I had been missing something like that until I saw them :)
I only usually glance through my pdfs, checking out bestiaries and artwork. The previous Faiths of books had some of the best character art I'd seen in awhile...this volume does not. It is poor at best, and just feels dull and uninspired compared to the previous ones. Possibly the worst I've seen in a Paizo product in a long time...sadly the only piece I can ever remember being this poor was the pic of Asmodeus in Book of the Damned. The Rival Guide made for some much better and more vibrant followers of Asmodeus than the sad balding lame club wielder this book presents.
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I only usually glance through my pdfs, checking out bestiaries and artwork. The previous Faiths of books had some of the best character art I'd seen in awhile...this volume does not. It is poor at best, and just feels dull and uninspired compared to the previous ones. Possibly the worst I've seen in a Paizo product in a long time...sadly the only piece I can ever remember being this poor was the pic of Asmodeus in Book of the Damned. The Rival Guide made for some much better and more vibrant followers of Asmodeus than the sad balding lame club wielder this book presents.
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Not every follower of an archdevil is a male hunk or a female cheesecake. Nor not every one brandishes flaming swords and has "I'm awesome and LE, feel free to Smite Evil because I'm up to no good" branded on forehead.
Just sayin' ;)
Not every follower of an archdevil is a male hunk or a female cheesecake. Nor not every one brandishes flaming swords and has "I'm awesome and LE, feel free to Smite Evil because I'm up to no good" branded on forehead.Just sayin' ;)
But that doesn't make sense! Why would you worship evil if it didn't make you smoking hot?! Isn't that, like, the first clause in the contract, right after consigning your soul to an eternity of torment and hellfire? Or did that one get replaced with a clause granting a single 15 minutes break from said torment and hellfire?
I only usually glance through my pdfs, checking out bestiaries and artwork. The previous Faiths of books had some of the best character art I'd seen in awhile...this volume does not. It is poor at best, and just feels dull and uninspired compared to the previous ones. Possibly the worst I've seen in a Paizo product in a long time...sadly the only piece I can ever remember being this poor was the pic of Asmodeus in Book of the Damned. The Rival Guide made for some much better and more vibrant followers of Asmodeus than the sad balding lame club wielder this book presents.
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Not every follower of an archdevil is a male hunk or a female cheesecake. Nor not every one brandishes flaming swords and has "I'm awesome and LE, feel free to Smite Evil because I'm up to no good" branded on forehead.
Just sayin' ;)
A well drawn uggo would be fine. This is a poorly drawn uggo, and so are all the others.
Looking very very good. I am a bit curious however, why a spell specific to followers of Asmodeus would turn up on the anti-paladin spell list (Shared Sacrifice page 28).
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A well drawn uggo would be fine. This is a poorly drawn uggo, and so are all the others.I only usually glance through my pdfs, checking out bestiaries and artwork. The previous Faiths of books had some of the best character art I'd seen in awhile...this volume does not. It is poor at best, and just feels dull and uninspired compared to the previous ones. Possibly the worst I've seen in a Paizo product in a long time...sadly the only piece I can ever remember being this poor was the pic of Asmodeus in Book of the Damned. The Rival Guide made for some much better and more vibrant followers of Asmodeus than the sad balding lame club wielder this book presents.
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Not every follower of an archdevil is a male hunk or a female cheesecake. Nor not every one brandishes flaming swords and has "I'm awesome and LE, feel free to Smite Evil because I'm up to no good" branded on forehead.
Just sayin' ;)
I wouldn't quite phrase it that way, but yes, the individual worshipper art is obviously by a different, and IMO, inferior artist to the one who did the individual portraits for Purity and Balance.
What are those two things with her? They look like Scooby Doo on PCP.
I was wondering if it was just me...!
There was a small part of me cheering and hoping for a Mystery Adventure, I admit.
This is nothing against Paizo, mind. It's more a Neo moment: "...woaaaah. It's like. Scooby Do."
Hmm, here is what I saw on the blog entry about the book:
"Agents of chaos and cruelty, these skilled warriors of Calistria, Gorum, Norgorber, and others now have guidance to serve their deity in ever more heinous acts."
Callistria can be chaotic and cruel at times, but I'd have thought she'd be in the faiths of balance book... Unless she's really been bad recently :) .
Hmm, here is what I saw on the blog entry about the book:
"Agents of chaos and cruelty, these skilled warriors of Calistria, Gorum, Norgorber, and others now have guidance to serve their deity in ever more heinous acts."
Callistria can be chaotic and cruel at times, but I'd have thought she'd be in the faiths of balance book... Unless she's really been bad recently :) .
She was, but her antipaladins are in *this* book. :D
Hmm, the idea of antipaladins of Callistria honestly didn't cross my mind. Then again, if Abadar has paladins, it makes sense. Ah well, that would be interesting.
Just asking those who already have a copy, does the book have traits and feats non-evil characters can take? Say, for someone whose backstory involves having been once associated with one of these religions, but who have since left it?
Product cover and description updated.
Who did the cover?
Product cover and description updated.Who did the cover?
The Four Horseman have no Favored Weapon listing while all the other minor deities do.
Was this an oversight or do they not have any?Perhaps the upcomming Book of the Damned Vol 3 will have them listed?
They're listed in the Inner Sea World Guide :)
There are antipaladin codes in this book for:
Calistria
Gorum
Lamashtu
Norgorber
Rovagug
Urgathoa
and a "generic" one for Demon LordsIs there an antipaladin code for Zon-Kuthon published somewhere?
If not, why did he get skipped?
Antipaladins have to be Chaotic Evil, and divine casters have to be within one step of their Deity's alignment. All of the Gods that have antipaladins are either CN, NE or CE.
There are no antipaladins of Zon-Kuthon (or Asmodeus) for the same reason that there are no Paladins of Desna or Cayden Cailean. Desna and Cayden Cailean are too free and wild for the lawful nature of paladins, and Antipaladins are too unrestrained and passion driven for the lawful nature of the God of Contracts and the God of Bondage.
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There are antipaladin codes in this book for:
Calistria
Gorum
Lamashtu
Norgorber
Rovagug
Urgathoa
and a "generic" one for Demon LordsIs there an antipaladin code for Zon-Kuthon published somewhere?
If not, why did he get skipped?
Antipaladins have to be Chaotic Evil, and divine casters have to be within one step of their Deity's alignment. All of the Gods that have antipaladins are either CN, NE or CE.
There are no antipaladins of Zon-Kuthon (or Asmodeus) for the same reason that there are no Paladins of Desna or Cayden Cailean. Desna and Cayden Cailean are too free and wild for the lawful nature of paladins, and Antipaladins are too unrestrained and passion driven for the lawful nature of the God of Contracts and the God of Bondage.
Duh. The within one step restriction totally slipped my mind. I was just thinking Evil God = Antipaladin.
Thanks for the reminder. :)
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I just got mine but a lot of pages are missing 9-24 (they have been replaced by a copy of the first pages). A mistake in the assembly process. :( :( Did it happen to anyone before ? The products reach me through the European distributor Diamond in England. I wonder if PAIZO could replace my copy ??
I just got mine but a lot of pages are missing 9-24 (they have been replaced by a copy of the first pages). A mistake in the assembly process. :( :( Did it happen to anyone before ? The products reach me through the European distributor Diamond in England. I wonder if PAIZO could replace my copy ??
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