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Male Human 1 Druid

“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of the infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.”

Monty uncovers his eyes.

Well...that was terrible. Yes, we should go, but before we do, let us consider. First, do we want to leave the terrible books here. These tomes would most assuredly be considered contraband in this land. Second, should Kendra stay here? I am worried about her safety.

Monty carefully puts the book back in the trunk and laughs.

It is like the good professor to have me bring his books back to the library. Reminds me of when I was his research research assistant. I will bring back a black coffee for you too, my friend.

Male Human 1 Druid

My friend, a storytelling contest is an imaginative solution. And if we had more time, I would agree with your course of action. but look here

Monty points to the journal and reads.

It is imperative the Way does not finish. My caution has already cost me too much time. I am not sure what will happen if I am too late, but if my theory is right, the entire town could be at risk

Monty closes the book.

I agree that we must collect the tools mentioned in the journal, but we must make haste.

Kendra, love, may I ask who discovered the body?

Monty examines the "dangerous" tombs and the chest. Fingering the pages of the books carefully before opening them.

Perception: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (10) + 7 = 17

Male Human 1 Druid

hold on friends

Cast detect magic and detect poison

Male Human 1 Druid

Things I can effect, Gravleon? Am I the only one who wonders about the circumstances of our friend's death?

Male Human 1 Druid
GM Engleaktig wrote:
Michael, could you please create an alias for Monty? Please also add summary stats for him? Email me if you need help or have questions. Thanks! :)

All good now?

Male Human 1 Druid

After a moment Monty turns from the window. In a deep, penetrating voice more growl than words:

Those bastards might be desecrating his grave now!

He punches the wall.

spoiling the secret spores entombed within!

Male Human 1 Druid

Monty turns to the group.

Friends, yes, all of our lives have been touched by Professor Lorrimor and it is good that we all meet. And the cordial tone of our meeting is...pleasant. You all seem so familiar — like family. Yes, in each of you, I see elements of our friend. From the strong

Monty looks at Dolgarth

to the wise

Monty turns to Gravleon


Monty turns to Blackheath.

Nonetheless, I am deeply concerned about his death. Those villagers may...

Monty slams his fist against the table.

A low grumbling, like distant thunder, rattles from Kiki.

Damn it. Why friends? Doesn't all of this seem suspicious. Or have I spent too much time amongst the pure motivations of simple creatures to read the hearts of men?

Monty looks away. Again, a madness bubbles from his eyes, a madness that is perhaps a shade his true nature or perhaps a vision of the wildness within. Suddenly, he pushes the table away from himself and stands, turning his back to the group, looking out a far window.

Damn them he whispers.

Male Human 1 Druid

Monty sits down. Kiki jumps in his lap.

"Dolgarth, have you any experience in these lands? Personally, I have been quite impressed by the flora and fauna indigenous to these parts.

Monty takes out a stack of release forms. Bits of leaves and flowers fall from the legal documents.

And now that you bring up fauna and flora, I wanted to circulate these release forms. In oh so many words, this form allows me to sample spores from your face and ears after you are deceased. I am a trained herbalist, obviously, and if you sign this form I will try to do everything I can to prevent your, um, passing. I hope the day of your death never comes, but I find trained survivalists and undead slayers are almost always interested in furthering sciences endeavors to beat back the evil forces of our lands.

Monty slides one to Dolgarth.

Do you need a pen old chap?

Male Human 1 Druid

Tears stream down Monty's cheeks. He unrolls a parchment from cloak.

Professor Lorrimor was my mentor. Without him, I would still be lost in the forest of spirits. We never had time to review my last paper, so, here, among friends...let me just read the abstract as testament to his amazing work.

Monty clears his throat.

To define the prevalence of total coronary occlusion in patients exposed to Acremonium sp hours after transmural myocardial infarction, we used coronary arteriography to study the degree of coronary obstruction in 322 patients admitted within 24 hours of infarction.

Monty starts to sob

Total coronary occlusion was observed in 110 of 126 patients (87 per cent) who were evaluated within four hours of the onset of symptoms; this proportion decreased significantly, to ...

Monty wipes his tears.

this proportion decreased significantly, to 37 of 57 (65 per cent), when patients were studied 12 to 24 hours after the onset of symptoms. Among 59 patients with angiographic features of coronary thrombosis, the thrombus was retrieved by Fogarty catheter in 52 (88 per cent) but was absent in seven (12 per cent false positive).

After administering denatured mummy rot patients showed...complete...recovery. Thank you...Doctor.

Monty salutes and drops the rolled paper into grave.

Male Human 1 Druid

Monty looks up and whispers, a flash of madness streaking across his face.

"Now Kiki, I am sure they don't mean to impede our procession.

Monty's whisper cuts over Kiki's rumbling.

You see gentlemen, at sight of evil my playful companion sheds his friendlier temperament. Let us pass: if necromancy lies ahead of us, I assure you: it shall be smoten. As to the professor interred within this casket, let his saintly burial concern you not.

Monty looks to Blackheath. Kiki leans forward — ready to pounce.

Aid Blackheath's Diplomacy: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9

Male Human 1 Druid

At the mention of the word "necromancer" the blood flushes from Monty's face.

Kiki rolls from his back and cuts under the casket. As it emerges, the curtain of Kiki's playful nature lifts revealing its fierce bestial nature: a nature at once insane and hungry.

The monster growls.

intimate: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (19) + 4 = 23

Male Human 1 Druid

Monty looks around from clown, to dwarf, to coffin.

His eyes water.

He grabs a large grape leaf from his cloak and wipes a tear from his face.

The decision, Kendra, is ultimately yours. I know...his request might seem odd to some

Monty eyes shoot to Dolgarth.

His friends would help, I imagine, open the coffin with the greatest of care. I will quickly swob his face and ears with the respect of a scientist. But...this ritual is for you — more than it is for me,

Monty motions to the crowd.

for them, and yes,

Lines of tears fall down the scientist's cheeks.

even for Petros and the science we both loved.

Monty chokes on his words.

Please Kendra, I beg you, let Professor Lorrimor continue his work through the hands of his friend. Let me samples the spores from his ears and face.

Monty drops the grape leaf. Kiki bites it with his back molars. The leaf crunches and disintegrates.

Male Human 1 Druid

"Yes Blackheath, I would greatly appreciate samples. It is commendable that your body serve science even in your, um, absence.

Monty turns to the crowd.

"I am sure that Petros would have loved if everyone would sign a release document allowing me to sample their spores and molds.

Monty turns back to Blackheath

"Nevertheless, my colleague left specific instructions. He was a true friend--the kind of "true" that is precious and rare--An ally in life, and yes, even in death. Petros was the sort who gave little care about the ornate prerequisites of death. Help me, Blackheath.

Monty flings an arm around Blackheath. A touch of white pigment stains the professor's cloak.

We shall collect spores together.

Male Human 1 Druid

"Yes, of course I understand that Petros' request is strange. But he was a devote of truth and science. Yes, opening the coffin is a touch eccentric, perhaps — but essential! And what are a few bolts and nails to the naturalist?"

Monty fishes a burlap bag of cotton swabs out of his backpack.

I assure you Professor Lorrimor was passionate about the flora and fauna of the recently deceased. Now madam, if you would please step aside, this will take but a moment.

Monty steps toward the coffin. The turtle steps into the brush. Kiki rolls on his back and purrs.

Male Human 1 Druid

"My painted friend, there is nothing strange about collecting spores and molds."

Monty pulls out a box turtle with both hands. A flag of parchment hangs out of the turtle's mouth. It nibbles a cursive P.

"Oh, Kendra. I am sorry, but I am sure you understand. It seems little Terrapene absaloma here ate Petros' signature."

(to Blackheath:) "Which is why I put my specimen book in a special case. Wait, you are Blackheath. Are you not? Petros spoke highly of you."

(in a gruff voice) "'It isn't every day you attract a suicidal clown as a student,' Petros would say."

Monty holds the little turtle to Kiki's nose. The beast licks the turtle's shell. Monty kisses the turtle, places it down, and almost mechanically, it waddles away.

"Kiki please track this turtle until it makes it back to the scrub. Good bye little friend.

(to Kendra) with all of the tasty things in this bag, would you believe he would eat this parchment?"

Monty shakes the nibbled parchment over his head.

Male Human 1 Druid

Kiki's fierce eyes scans the crowd. The beast jams its muzzle into Graveleon's knee and licks his fingers, purring.

"Monty Pinguard, professor of regigno and putridus. Friends, I am so sorry that I am late. I intended to arrive early, beyond the mandates of civility. Yes, this is rather awkward now that we are all assembled, yet nonetheless, the rigors of the naturalist demands be satisfied."

"My colleague Petros wished me to collect some spore samples from his remains. For the squeamish among you, this is a rather quick operation, and I assure you that I will desecrate the word, yes...I will in no way harm or desecrate his body. I simply need to swab his ears and skin."

"I had Petros sign a note, of course, stating his intentions to serve science."

Monty kneels, lifts his cloak with a flourish and opens his backpack. Inside the bag a veritable herbalists shop of dried flowers, roots, and herbs.

"I must have left the note by the invitation?"

A sparrow flies out of the bag. Monty searches deeper into the mass of samples.

Kiki jumps after the bird.

Male Human 1 Druid

He scribbles some notes into a re-purposed spell book, carefully presses the specimen into its pages, smiles, and looks up.

His ruddy smile vanishes.

"What's this? My invitation states that the service is to be in four hours. Who? Why..."

His words stammer off. Then he stands and slings he backpack over one shoulder and marches over to Kendra.

"Kendra is it? Your father spoke of you."

Without turning from her:

"Kiki, get over here."

Ray, did Kiki (the lion) see anything while chasing the dragonfly?

Perception: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (7) + 6 = 13

Male Human 1 Druid

A man in his early twenties walks over the hill. He walks briskly, but his hands, he angles a shard of glass and what appears to be a weed. Weaving between his strides, a lion pounces on a dragonfly. The insect darts from the beast.

The hilt of scimitar and the points of a wooden shield protrude from his cloak.

Suddenly, he stops about twenty yards from the service.

Without looking up, the man gasps, kneels, and lifts his cloak. Worn and patched hide armor covers his youthful, vibrant frame.

He reaches into his backpack. The lion chases the insect into the brush.

Male Human 1 Druid

Hey Everyone, I am rolling up a 1st level druid.


Yeah, let's do it. What level do we start at?

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Luke Parry wrote:

To be fair, he did say the other PCs, not the players - I do find the idea of a barbarian wading into the dungeon supported by five statisticians/accountants moderately entertaining ;-)

And suddenly, while the stat's guys are cooking the numbers....


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Instead of pathfinder books, the five other PCs bring their statistics books and insist on calculating the Expected Value for every one of your rolls.

ProfessorBizarre wrote:
it generally seems like our main skill as a team is being ridiculously resilient

Ha! Being ridiculously resilient is my specialty! I find my characters are more safety conscious than I am...

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Fans mistake your pathfinder's group with the Smashmouther's fan club and insist that everyone sing the song "all star" instead of playing...

Eventually you get a whole party of bards together.

I would hate to see the rest of the backpack he used to just "pull out" the dragon skeleton!

W for the whiny wieners at the table

lol fine I will take my boots and leave this forum!

Pirate Rob wrote:

Hi there mcruggiero, i think you may have posted your question in the wrong forum.

You may wish to try the rules forum instead.

OK then...let me rephrase my post.

Boots of the item for 1000 gp??? What does the lodge think?

How about this...On my character sheet I have:

  • the total tally of all of the gold I have ever earned
  • the total tally of all the gold I have left
  • individual cost of every item in my inventory with sum total at the end
  • all of the prestige I have left and all of the fame I have ever accumulated
  • total missions accomplished

It seems like this satisfies the: "Michael is not cheating" standard.

If the whole point of the ITS is to aid the auditor, I don't really see what other information he needs.

Does he need to know that I just burned through my first wand of CLW? has been pointed out...

Nefreet wrote:
Only a couple ppl in this thread are in favor of auditing to catch cheaters. Nobody official has ever claimed that to be the primary purpose of the ITS, and many (including myself) believe that it's not even possible.

So maybe the ITS is not about cheating. If the ITS is a handy organizational tool for you, great use it! But maybe other people have systems that suit their personal preferences.

Hey Everyone,

I was thinking about picking up some boots of the cat:

das boot!:

These high-soled blue boots provide a great deal of comfort and arch support while also making the wearer appear a little bit taller than normal.

The boot’s wearer always takes the minimum possible damage from falls (as if the GM had rolled a 1 on each die of damage incurred by the fall) and at the end of a fall always lands on his feet.

So, first off, is it just me or do these things seem like the best item for 1,000 gp?

Second off, I have a rules based question about tripping and boots of the cat.


You can attempt to trip your opponent in place of a melee attack. You can only trip an opponent who is no more than one size category larger than you. If you do not have the Improved Trip feat, or a similar ability, initiating a trip provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of your maneuver.

If your attack exceeds the target's CMD, the target is knocked prone. If your attack fails by 10 or more, you are knocked prone instead. If the target has more than two legs, add +2 to the DC of the combat maneuver attack roll for each additional leg it has. Some creatures—such as oozes, creatures without legs, and flying creatures—cannot be tripped.

It seems to me that after I buy my boots I will no longer be able to be tripped.

Is this wishful thinking?

James McTeague wrote:

Why do we have the ITS? Because in my area, there were some serious accounting problems on some characters because people had not gotten in the habit of making their purchases/equipment list able for other people to read. Mandating the ITS and occasional audits has mostly solved this problem, but if the ITS requirement goes away, I can see people going back to their old habits fairly easily. Due to the health and circumstances of my region, I cannot support and will actively fight any movement to make the ITS no longer mandatory.

(Also, there are some scenarios where I collect ITSs before the session. Glory of the Past 3 is a good example of this.)

Hmm...I haven't heard any auditors favor the ITS yet. James, do you think it is possible that the audits have more to do with positive change then the ITS? Did you try regular audits before the ITS?

Maybe we are wandering a little bit.

I think the most appropriate question is:

Should the ITS be mandated?

While I do not like the ITS, I do not suppose to believe that players ought not use it. You like ITS, then ITS on my brothers and sisters.

I, however, don't like the ITS. I think it wastes time and, as argued above, I don't think it really aides the auditor.

Therefore, why must I fill out the ITS if I am carefully calculating my purchases?

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Everyone only brought d6s.

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Chronicle: Items, gold per item, total gold.
Sheet: Items.

Chronicle: Total gold.
ITS: Items, gold per item.
Sheet: Items. the "less is better" argument isn't sticking for everyone...

Now, I know that I have something of a distain for bureaucracy, so maybe the following line of reasoning will not resonate with everyone, but here is my big question:

Why is this inventory tracking system change necessary in the first place?

If it is to (A): help people add and subtract, then perhaps the current tracking sheet is not a great way to do it. Many of the real expendable items are hovering at or below 50 gp. Someone who constantly forgets to subtract his first level scrolls would give himself a large caster advantage. Liquid Ice is tapped at 40 gp. Acid, 15. Wands should really be consumed on the character sheet — the player who still has a sparkling new wand of CLW he picked up at level 1.1 is suspicious.

And the arrows and bullets...I constantly over tally on arrows because I have to buy the damn things is packs of 20. I don't have rapid shot in multiples of 20, so when I shoot my ~28 arrows, I just drop 6 gold and donate the extra arrows to the teen archery club.

For the folks who have problems maintaining a running, detail oriented log, they really need a spreadsheet or some ledger (like a checkbook) that is more advanced then the current tracking sheet. For me, I do not find the tracking sheet a useful to help me stay organized.

50 gp is too large of a unit to be realistic but small enough to be a royal pain-in-the-butt.

Maybe we can make the tracking sheet optional? We are all adults, right? There isn't one *best* way to stay organized.

If we are making the tracking sheet to (B) stop cheaters, then we have to admit the current ITS is a mess. All of the gold still has to be added up on the chronicle sheets for a full audit. It is most convenient for the auditor to see the big expenses on the sheets as he tallies. To look from the chronicles to another sheet doesn't really explain expenses in relation to fame, etc. Also, a clever cheater will be able to fully manipulate the system by printing out new sheets.

A lot of stuff can be bought with 1,000 gp...

Tired of that magic buckler? Get a suit of armor instead...picked up the wrong wand?Slip a new one into your one will know...

Destroy the sheet and you destroy all evidence of all of the past purchases. You could start at square one, recalculating and retooling as you go.

The key evidence for an auditor is the chronicle sheet, not the ITS.

I humbly caution the grand lodge, mandating additional paperwork may seem to be helpful, but these steps lead to bureaucratic bloat. Let's stick to a simpler, clearer, less manipulatable system.

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Agreed. Drop the ITS.

I understand the logic of the system and appreciate Piazo's attempt at making the system more coherent, but I use a spreadsheet to track all of my purchases. Everything I buy is tracked to the copper. Expendables are marked off on my character sheet, and after the session, I refill, paying the cost.

BigNorseWolf sums up the problem for me perfectly. It is exhausting to make an additional notation on another sheet.

Really, it feels like the ITS is a poor trap to catch cheaters. In my opinion, if someone really wants to game the system, the ITS is no real hinderance. I haven't played with a single GM that really pays attention to how many wand charges a character expends or how many potions they drink. My GMs work really hard to make the game fun and vivid; I don't really want them to play traffic cop as well.

The reason I play pathfinder is to create a shared and imaginative -- but realistic --space. For me calculating weight or cost is a fun exercise in managing resources and strategy. I like it when I get to use that vermin repellant that I specifically added...and it is fun to smack myself for NOT adding that liquid ice I knew I wanted.

But of course there are players that want to make the mega-destructo barbarian of godly might at level one...

Piazo, you really want to catch these cheaters? Make an online, calculated character sheet. Have the GMs input the gold that they earn after every adventure (not really much more paper work for them since they already input the PPs.) Make the website intuitive and logical. Players without access to the internet then have to be that much more careful because they are more likely to get audited. Players with the Piazo online stamp are less suspicious.

Is this a reasonable suggestion?

Thanks everyone, thanks Jiggy…I looked through the FAQs, but was still a little confused…

Magus Spell Combat:
At 1st level, a magus learns to cast spells and wield his weapons at the same time. This functions much like two-weapon fighting, but the off-hand weapon is a spell that is being cast. To use this ability, the magus must have one hand free (even if the spell being cast does not have somatic components), while wielding a light or one-handed melee weapon in the other hand. As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a –2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this penalty). If he casts this spell defensively, he can decide to take an additional penalty on his attack rolls, up to his Intelligence bonus, and add the same amount as a circumstance bonus on his concentration check. If the check fails, the spell is wasted, but the attacks still take the penalty. A magus can choose to cast the spell first or make the weapon attacks first, but if he has more than one attack, he cannot cast the spell between weapon attack.

(1) As a wizard, can taking one level of Magus allow "spell combat" on wizard spells that are still on the magus list?

(2) Is a new spell book granted?

(3) Can this wizard also cast spells in light armor without penalty as long as the spells are listed on the magus list?

Thanks everyone!

William Bumgarner wrote:
I'm sorry I *ever* asked a question. I'll never do that again.

Keep asking questions :). Just a little miscommunication, that's all.

Nefreetsaid wrote:
You can generally tell by the tone of my comments whether I've had my coffee yet or not.

Yeah, might be time to hit the coffee machine :D. People just get passionate when it comes to these monk

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Diplomacy: 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (20) + 10 = 30 Gentleman, lets settle this like adults. Rock, scissors, paper!

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Apsu, in other words, grants spells SO HARD that I had to write new rules for granting spells.

So, yes, Apsu does grant spells. But it is going to hurt when you cast them.

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...and that's all...

Hmm...any VOs want to chip in? Can I buy five EB arrows or do I have to buy all 20?

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The GM sits at the table with a crusty sledge hammer, whispers to it, points to you and says "roll initiative."

Hey everyone.

Elysian Bronze:
First crafted in the deeps of time by the titans and bestowed as gifts to monster-slaying heroes among the lesser races, Elysian bronze retains the brazen coloration of its namesake but is as hard as steel. A weapon made of Elysian bronze adds a +1 bonus on weapon damage rolls against magical beasts and monstrous humanoids; this damage is multiplied on a critical hit. After a creature uses an Elysian bronze weapon to deal damage to a magical beast or monstrous humanoid, the wielder gains a +1 bonus on attack rolls against that specific creature type (for example, against chimeras, not all magical beasts) for the next 24 hours, or until the weapon deals damage to a different kind of magical beast or monstrous humanoid.

So If I have a set of Elysian Bronze arrows, does the +1 bonus (it seems non magical) stack with the +1 magical enhancement?

Also, do I apply the +20 gp cost to a bundle of 20 arrows?


Oh wow, you friendly GMs will do audits?

I will have to post my PC sometime.

Oh, durp, I see.

Thanks Aboniks

Let's say I take two shots with rapid fire. If I hit with the first shot, does shot #2 get the +4 to opening volley or do I apply the +4 in the next round?


pH unbalanced wrote:

I have been at tables where you would be allowed to Trip or Disarm the PC without it being considered violating PvP, but I think it is more common that that would be disallowed. I have never been at a table where you would be allowed to hit a PC for non-lethal damage.

Taking action to interrupt a CdG is likely to antagonize the PC, so it is better to try and talk them out of it. But if you simply *must* interrupt the CdG without running afoul of PvP restrictions my suggestion for how to do that:

Coup de Grace is a Full-Round action, so you will have time to make a response of some kind.

Assuming that you are in movement range of the victim, I would perform a Reposition or a Bull Rush on the helpless villain, to move them into a square that the PC did not threaten and, if possible, cannot threaten after a 5' step. That interrupts the CdG.

Ha! I like that idea, pH unbalanced. You can't CdG the bad guy if I have him strapped to my back.

*Using detect soul coke, I found this conversation*

Last week a player delivered a coup de grâce on a helpless villain. This action didn't violate our mission, but my little paladin wanted to stay my companion's hand from committing murder. My paladin didn't stop the coup via PvP rules, but I wonder how I should have played this.

It went by too fast for her to scream something virtuous like, "by Shelyn's love I beseech you to stop." Next time I will have that little line readied.

Anyway, I know this is something of a noob question, but my innocent paladin wanted to know:
is it OK to take a non-lethal AoO to stop the coup de grâce? My paladin is as kind as a warm smile, so mercy means a lot to her.

And yes, I always ask magic makers to not summon the blood-dripping-soul-eating-baddies at the start of the game, but if they did anyway I would just instruct them kindly at the end of the encounter.


PS: what is VO?

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