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Authorization received. Happy that the mini's are off schedule from this month, wallet was about to rebel.
My watch has ended, that was very quick. PDF downloaded, it is over 170mb again, but the quality inside looks great so not complaining. Notice received 10/2 Monday for those counting.
Just the AP for October, November however 8D
Hoping that someone puts a digital FAQ/Errata for updating existing cards to the new content..... Also hoping that new card sets will be released with the official text :D
Feel like Goblins would definitely have a school to teach aspiring wizards to set the long shanks on fire... That being said, unsure if there are plans for new sets of spell cards, but I would definitely pick them up if they do, or if we get a guide on how to re organize the cards we have? This would also be greatly appreciated :D
Still marked as pre order, wondering if we have an ETA for when Paizo will have these on hand?
If I order more than books, if it requires peanuts, I've been getting promo mini's with my orders. It encourages me to add things to the order :D
My watch has ended. Nethys speed to the rest of ye
Backed this during crowd funding, the technology is amazing. They plan on bringing a desktop app and allow for VTT on desktops. That will make this infinitely more useable for the masses. Can't wait!
love that everyone who quotes you is getting the special avatar.... it will likely be the #1 thing I miss about the forums
Good update, lots of progress being made. Love to see that. I also see the irony in the closing down of the Redmond offices all things considered.
Crazy. Shipping notice. My watch has ended, may it be as speedy for the rest of us!
Mini Render up next please? Nice!
Nice! Can't wait to see this campaign launch.
nearly 4 years later and the Dwarven Wizards are finally getting redemption.... Player Core 1 - Looking at you and your glorious Wizards having access to being Simple Weapons Trained....
This assumes that they don't already have a system in place, and again, at the table we choose how we play and what is involved. Detect Alignment: Detect Aura Aura: The person you are casting this on has devious intentions
This isn't hard. Divine Lance: Damage based on Dieties Alignment Ok, so they already said that Alignment is going to be replaced with Traits and if your God wouldn't take on someone who kicks kittens then that is still true. There are going to be traits. It is safe for me to assume that there will be opposing traits. This can all be done with flavor text and 20 minutes of concentration. Mind you, Paizo has put a lot more than 20 minutes into the updated books.
One of the first things the CRB says is the game is ours and we can do what we want at our own tables. The entire rule set is a guideline for how we want to run a game. If you are running a game and you want a weapon more nuanced that 'evil slayer' you can certainly do this without any changes to how the current alignment system works, and you can work those into the game with any new alignment system. The games are ours, the tables are set up for fun and inclusion. The rules are not set in stone.
They haven't said exactly how they will handle alignment damage, they just made mention that there are equivalents of Good/Evil like Holy/Unholy and that there is a system that will reconcile those damage type. But they said more info to come and to pay attention to Convention Panels. Definitely did not see specifics from Mona/Buhlman/Bonner. Just assurances that they put a lot of time and effort into the updated materials.
We got PF2e based on the gold standard: OGL. Which became very volatile when WoTC decided to try to not only cancel it, but force anyone who published under the OGL to freely give all of their IP up stream. No thanks Now we have a developer who is building something that is going to outlast all of us, and at the same time not altering it so much that it isn't backwards and forwards compatible with the existing content. People have questions and that is great. Will help build the community up. So far nothing about the Remaster has struck me that it is worth bailing on the system and most of the changes just look like expedited errata anyways. I still haven't seen any changes that are going to break anything in the core. And anything that is removed other than Alignment mechanics is mostly superficial. Some things like weapon proficiencies are going to make more sense now. Thank god my Dwarf Wizard can use their ancestral dagger proficiently that they have been playing with since birth. And the Alignment changes, my guess, is that the mechanics people are worried about will be baked in with new terminology. I have faith in Paizo's ability to make sense of the rules and removing the troublesome OGL links at the same time.
Not every magic item is in the CRB anyways and having Archives of Nethys is a great boon when looking things up.You forget that a not insignificant part of the community are proud luddites for whom the products of the printing press are the most advanced form of technology they are willing to accept for their game... See, now. I don't forget. However, as a background in tech I know that the best way to lead a user to a solution isn't to point out that they lack vision. Food for thought for people who want to gainfully contribute to the conversation.
Why bring up Nethys? We're talking about books. If the books aren't usable at the table, there's no point in buying them.Archives of Nethys says hello. So, I get that. And you aren't wrong, but it is moving the goal post. Not every magic item is in the CRB anyways and having Archives of Nethys is a great boon when looking things up. The person running the game should have the GM Core book, if not also a Player Core, on hand and if the player has the Player Core book on hand then between the two of you the references are there. Just because the book says GM Core doesn't mean it should be kept out of the players hands. This feels like a true non issue here.
Alignment removal excites me. Not because of the hurdles for aligned damage or aligned planes. But for the role play aspect. Mona talked about how players would be consumed with the idea of needing an alignment on an NPC to properly role play them, but the solution he said in a blip was so simplistic that I am surprised I hadn't home brewed it before. Personality traits/motivations. Greedy/Altruistic, Resourceful, Paranoid. These are actual traits that will help me role play an NPC's motivations much better than 'Lawful Evil' Because Lawful Evil can mean so many things but typically gets widdled down to the same dialogue over and over when done ad hoc. So, I trust Paizo with their world building and I am excited to see how these things unfold in the upcoming books
My watch has ended.
Nice! Downloading now. Thank you for standing for the community.
Stopping in and keeping hope alive. Indefinite Hold is a hold :D
Order Received. This was a weird month. I got my auth on the 9th and shipping notice/pdfs on the 20th when my card was charged. Normally my order ships out within a day or so of the card being charged, was second guessing myself because I kept wondering if it got misplaced or delivered to the wrong house. Nope, it was charged on the 20th but didn't ship out til the 27th and arrived on the 30th. If anyone else out there is going crazy thinking it should have arrived already just letting you know it might have been delayed getting to the post, or at least took longer than what I was used to. Woot! Sub arrived and loving Firebrands.
Intent is what is important when it comes to the honor system. I am 100% for the ban on AI generated art for commercial use. Personal opinion and one that just makes sense to me. I am about 80% against the ban on using chat bots to generate ideas and stories. I applaud the stance that Paizo is taking, and fully support them for taking it. It makes sense to ban it for commercial use. Where does ownership lay? For home use I have no issues with it. And even having a chat bot to bounce ideas off of so long as you aren't copying word for word I am ok with for commercial use too. Just an opinion. It has been proven time and again that AI generated art, while epic, creepy, and inspiring? Can almost always be linked back to someone's original works being plagiarized/modified. Not cool. I fully support the ban for official products and products that fall under Paizo licensing. This is their world and we just live in it. Abide by the rules and we all play happy.
Shipping before Auth I think may be a typo, would be interesting though. Likely those dates are backwards?
The other was absolutely insistent that Paizo would be shuttering 2e within two years unless they made the changes he personally wanted to see to the system. Went so far as to make me promise to apologize personally to him for defending the system when it happened. I told him I would if he would do the same if 2e was a success.I have a list of "I think PF2 will flop within a year, maybe two" people somewhere :) I believe this, and this made me smile.
Looks like my watch has ended. Shipping notice received.
Fantastic, love this for the community and sad that it became necessary. I had a feeling with Paizo waiting to comment it was going to go one way or the other in regards to the OGL depending on what WotC put out.... Fact that WotC kept pushing off their announcement tells me they saw the writing on the wall. Well done Paizo, thank you for this.
Hey Aaron Shanks maybe you should submit your resume to Wizards of the Coast, they could use a competent marketing exec right now. Nah, we like Aaron right where he is. Appreciate his attention to detail and follow through.
Saw a post somewhere talking about how a certain best case scenario is Hasbro had WotC up against a wall and was forcing the issue. WotC 'leaked' the potential OGL to enrage the player base intentionally so they can point at the players and say 'see what happens when you piss them off?' and hopefully, if not scrapped, it gets a full rewrite to still be useable. Downside is damage is already done. Good luck. You have already created new competitors just with the threat of pulling it and showing that you can try this crap at any point in the future. Idiocy at its best 1.1 is.
Of course, fans always have the option of a mass boycott of all Hasbro/WotC products. Corporations tend to listen when their bottom line starts taking a hit.Most ttrpg "fans" actually support WotC. There's a reason DnD overwhelms the rest of the table-top RPG market. Why would those folks boycott? Many, and I mean many, of those people were brought in by 3rd party products/streamers. People will follow their loyalties. Some will stick to WotC out of loyalty, but my guess is, and this is just from taking the temp of the room since the leak, that the majority see a loyalty to the community more than the product. At least the vocal ones. The reason it overwhelms is because of the relationship built with the community. Burn that bridge and a large portion of the community walks.
Very true, by poorly timed I meant on the part of the people trying to grab the cash. It is never poorly timed for a 'captive' audience to realize they are being pressed for every dime they have and start an uprising. Just wish WotC didn't prove every fear the community had true with this bait and switch. I get monetizing the online community, but literally biting the hand that feeds them is mind boggling. More so because they already knew what would happen based on the 4e experiment. Granted, that got me Pathfinder and then 2e, so it worked out well for me, but you would think they could learn from their mistakes. Kobold Press will show them round 2 I suppose.
I chuckled... but.... it's also sad because you aren't wrong...
It would be funny if WotC's attempt to better monetize D&D ends up being a huge revenue boost to Paizo :DWell, I just bought every rulebook for 2E that I don't already own. Paizo gets some additional $ for legal defense, and WotC can come and try to take my books. They will be guarded by three house cats, one of whom may pee on their shoes.I just did the same, though I'm still on 1E. Hopefully dropping $600 on them will help out a bit. This is what happened when 4e launched and Paizo did better because of it. Here's hoping they can make some lemonade out of this.
I have seen the post about missing jpgs and created a ticket. Thanks Aaron, I keep coming back to see if there is an update. Hoping to see the JPG's soon.
Just trying to sit back and absorb the confirmed information we get as we get it. Hard not to comment, but I wouldn't put it past WoTC from leaking a harsher document to make what they do to the community more palatable. Seriously though, I don't buy DnD products for myself but my kid is getting into it and I just bought him the Players/Masters and Bestiary for 5e so they can dive in. If they pull the rug out from under the community in any way shape or form I don't think they understand the backlash the community can deliver when they come together. Nor the support we will give to someone who supports us back. If they kill the original OGL and it affects content providers negatively. People aren't going to magically rally around their new version of the game the way they think they will.
I've noticed the Pathfinder Society subscription has skipped #4-06 for me. Is this part of the issues that will be resolved? Send an email to customer.service@paizo.com if it still isn't in your digital content. This happened to me with 4-6, sent in an email and they had it resolved in about 24 hours.
Just stoppin in to keep the thread relevant. Any idea when the next waves are planned or are we letting this project fade into the background just to be brought up by backers who remember it exists from time to time?
Communication used to be a lot more frequent when we had a dedicated CS forum. I don't know how many people they have on the team currently but having someone stop in the current/active subscription threads with authority to respond would be a boon to the community.
Thank you Austin for the update. Also, appreciate giving us the tools to get eyes on our requests for subscription issues (subject line is key)
Love these bundles. For people concerned about PDF pricing here is the perfect buy in to the games AND get a physical Beginner box for 50$ and shipping? Can't beat this value for people just getting into Pathfinder. Don't want the physical beginner box? Drops your price to 25$ donation for all those pdf's. Insane. CRB/GM Guide and adventures.
I've just noticed that my subscription list for the November items are now not showing under my subscriptions, either in "Upcoming" or "Expected to ship in X days" (Impossible Lands/AP185/Flip-Mat/Flip-Tiles). I do have some stuff in my sidecart (Order: 37060520) so maybe this has affected the listing? Should I wait or contact CS? The items drop off that list every month as they are prepping orders for shipping and then they pop up as a pending order typically within a couple business days. We don't normally notice because it just happens in the background. Side carted items that are in stock when our orders ship will also move to the pending order at the same time.
When it comes to sharing it comes down to how you share it. Passing someone your tablet so they can read it? Great. Sending someone the PDF? Paizo does not want you to do this. Can you physically do this? Yes. But you can also physically walk into a store and steal a book. You shouldn't, but you can. If you send someone your pdf and it gets out in the wild then you have no one to blame but yourself if Paizo finds your copy in the wild and then closes your account on Paizo.com. Sure you have your pdf's, but you lose access to your account. No thanks, not with the risk. If you are sharing with your friends, hope you really trust them not to click the links. If you know you know.
not happy to see this, and it will likely impact my future Paizo purchasing. For me, the issue is ownership. If I buy a physical book, I own it, I can read it, loan it to a friend, give it away as a gift, or sell it to someone when I am done with it. As a digital file, I own nothing, I purchase the ability t9 use data on my personal devices. I still feel like ownership has a value.Confused... Why wouldn't you still be able to buy the physical books? Maybe I am reading your post wrong or you might have read the blog a little off? They aren't transitioning to PDF only, just adjusting prices for the PDF's. ah, makes sense. They are also decreasing costs for a few products that I want digital, like the battle cards. They haven't increased digital costs in.... well I don't think I've seen it since I've been paying attention. The only serious increase I see is in the Starfinder Rule Books, which admittedly won't affect me personally, but 10 bucks for a rule book is sorta insane. Core books being cheap is one thing, it gets people into a product. But even 20 bucks is cheap to me for a core book compared to the ongoing costs of delivering new content. I agree about the ownership and value. Which is why I subscribe to the Adventure Path. I check the quality of the book when I get it and then store it away as sets. I only use the PDF's I get with the subscription to keep the original physical products as mint as possible. The digital products though? Even with watermarks and licensing they hold no physical value in the real world either way. Digital to me is just an optional bonus, one that I tend to take at every turn for daily use.
Makes sense and feels right for the most part. I was cringing when I needed to get the Bestiary 1 Battle Cards PDF to finish my collection and waited for a steep sale and codes to do it. I do think that people looking at the individual pricing as a gate keeper for new players may find that it doesn't play out that way in the long run. New players tend to pick up the initial rule books and then piecemeal their way through what they want to play either in Physical or Digital. Those who want the 'bulk' of everything will still have those opportunities when Humble Bundle deals come around and they get a large collection all at once. That is what I did with the PF1 pdf's and now I have enough PF1 to play for years and I only play PF2 now. Which I have been all in on for the most part since launch. But even then there are Humble Bundles for people playing catch up there too. Good call on making prices uniform. Not sure if the one shots at 5$ a pop will sell as well, but 5$ for an hour or so of entertainment is still cheap in the long run and a good value. Especially for people who want to run games but not design them.
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