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Asked about it during the twitch stream for Age of Ashes 5 and James Jacobs response was really good.

Paraphasing

Imagine all of the dwarves coming home for thanksgiving and your parents are disappointed that you never took the time to learn to handle the clan dagger and spent all of your time with your nose in your books.

I am ok with having different styles of clan daggers in my home games, but the role play aspect for dialogue could make for entertaining ribbing of players.

He also mentioned that he has a bard that solely uses a scimitar that he isnt proficient in, and it is just accepted that the character isn't very good at sword fighting, and takes the lower bonus's, but that isn't what his character is meant to be doing full time anyways.

was a good little dialogue they had during the twitch stream


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Interesting takes. I get it, but personally feel that a dagger is a dagger and the Clan Dagger should fall under this umbrella. There is nothing special about it other than its symbolic representation of your clan. It is still a dagger and a Wizard is trained in daggers. Picking it up and being confused how to use it but picking up a dagger without the word Clan before it and I am totally proficient?

Feels very stringent to me and an oversight.


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Wave 2:
Ferani Nadaz: Add-On Ysoki Gang Leader? Unsure.
Obozaya Vesk Solider: Add-On Iconic
Anacite Laborer: Add-On
Ryphorian Skyfire Add-On Pilot: Next to the Anacite Laborer on the KS Graphic
Skittermander: Add-On Part of the Skittermander group, should get x3
Luwazi Elsebo: New Mini

Wave 1:
Half-Orc Soldier: Campaign/Adventure mini
Dwarf Soldier: Campaign/Adventure mini
Elf Operative:Campaign/Adventure mini
Half-Elf Operative: Campaign/Adventure mini
Half-Elf Steward: Campaign/Adventure mini
Necrovite: Campaign/Adventure mini
Zo!: New Mini


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Franz Lunzer wrote:
Yoshua wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
What would the point of the pdf of this product be?

I'd have many uses. Being able to incorporate the official stat blocks in my electronic notes without taking a crappy cell phone pic would be first and foremost.

I can snag them from the bestiary, but I guarantee that these are going to be much better formatted for individual use.

Out of interest: Why not look up the monster on 2e.aonprd.com and copy from there?

No doubt, lots of ways of doing this. I use a digital organizer to create all of my dialogue and notes. I like to have all of the information I can in one spot. I've even been known to almost rewrite entire adventures using the source material.

I can definitely hop out and even link to other sources, but when I am in the middle of a game it breaks immersion for me and it's a personal preference to have all of the information in one spot. For example while writing I will put the note for a monster

Name of Monster
Initiative +##
PF2eB1 pg###

Then later as I prep I will go in and fill in stat blocks or copy and paste from the Bestiary. When I get the cards I'll be using them, but for reference sake I'd still like to put them in my notes if possible.

Way back in the day I'd photo copy and put stat blocks in that way....

Remember, you were curious :D


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Here is my official request for them :D


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Vic Wertz wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Well, tariffs on goods from China went online, prepare for more delays (and price increases) as the entire industry gets shafted.
Tariffs have nothing to do with the delay here. (They may play a role in future price increases if they continue very long.)

How about a template for community use? :D

Will want to make my own for Adventure monsters until there are official releases :D Card Templates help immensely with that like with the Adventure Card Game


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Holy Crap! Technarken they responded about transferring pledges on the kickstarter comments. Took a screen grab of it. You may be able to transfer if you find someone to buy it off of you. Case by Case basis.

edit to add:
After they directly insulted you calling you names. Jebus, they must really want the disdain of our community at this point.

Paizo:
We told you day 1 who you were getting into business with. Maybe next time your customers raise some red flags you will listen to the people loyal to you and actually looking out for your interests.


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Fumarole wrote:
Steve Geddes wrote:
You can if you know what you want to do, or you can wait until the email goes out and reply to that:
Thanks Steve, but I was looking for an official answer as I never received the email that went out last week, and I'd like to know if there is a time frame attached to this notification that we need to provide. I guess I'll call Customer Service to see what's up.

Not sure an email has gone out yet, I didn't receive one either. I emailed support after identifying the shipping cost and had my shipment sent out.


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Case Arrived :D Nice living right next door! Not sure how this will format.... But here is my case breakdown.

Adding
a
couple of lines
to make sure it goes
below my Avatar.

Number Name Size Rarity Number-Owned
1 Goblin Dog-Slicer S C 4
2 Orc Charger M C 4
3 Bugbear Skulker M C 5
4 Orc Battler M C 4
5 Goblin Guard S C 5
6 Hobgoblin Soldier M C 4
7 Armored Elf Soldier M C 4
8 Halfling Slinger S C 5
9 Orc Brawler M C 5
10 Bugbear Mauler M C 6
11 Kobold Soldier S C 3
12 Gnome Rogue S C 4
13 Hobgoblin Sharpshooter M C 3
14 Goblin Horse-Chopper S U 4
15 Orc Rampager M U 2
16 Goblin Ankle-Slasher S U 3
17 Kobold Scout S U 3
18 Dwarf Champion M U 3
19 Dwarf Rogue M U 2
20 Shadow M U 3
21 Wraith M U 3
22 Kobold Scalemaster S U 4
23 Wight M U 2
24 Elf Ranger A M U 2
24 Elf Ranger B M U 1
25 Pteranodon L U 3
26 Chimera L U 3
27 Yeti L U 3
28 Fire Giant L U 4
29 Alghollthu H U 4
30 Storm Giant H U 4
31 Dragon Turtle H U 4
32 Cloud Giant A H U 1
32 Cloud Giant B H U 2
33 Halfling Druid S R 1
34 Dwarf Sorcerer M R 1
35 Gnome Soldier S R 1
36 Halfling Wizard S R 1
37 Orc Warlord M R 1
38 Hobgoblin Commander M R 1
39 Bugbear Butcher M R 1
40 Goblin Chieftain S R 1
41 The Ashen Man L R 1
42 Huge Blue Dragon H R 1
43 Nightmare L R 1
44 Boar Demon H R 1


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Came in to see if there was any updates on the Paizo side. Not really? Appreciate you guys reaching out.

As for the people who jump to the defense I am learning to ignore them. They alienate people who have legitimate questions and gripes and distract from the topic without actually providing information. Technarken has legitimate questions that get overshadowed. Pledge Transfers?

Good luck on selling your pledge, I don't know of a single company that will take on the responsibility if you were to scam or someone scams you and you are fully out what you pledged for. I've pledged alot of campaigns and have never seen any company officially offer the transfer of pledges/accounts.


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Diego Valdez wrote:

Hello folks,

I am back and with news none of you want. Due to an issue that we are currently looking into the auth is being pushed back to Monday. Likewise the end shipping date is changing to Wednesday, October 16. I will be updating the op with this information.

Appreciate the heads up, letting us know is far better than us sitting around guessing :D


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ofMars wrote:
I know it was kind of beat to death on the first page of this thread, and obviously we're all free to make whatever changes, but the whole 1 mile to the castle thing is a little silly, even if it makes tunneling more "viable" and travel easier on the party. 1 mile is a 20 minute walk. It takes about the same time to walk to the citadel from the town as it does to walk from Paizo HQ to Mac & Jack's Brewery. In Cleveland, from Tower City to the Cleveland State University. In Indianapolis, from the Lucas Oil Stadium parking lot to where you picked up your badge for GenCon (give or take a twisting line). 10 miles is a 4 hour walk including some breaks, I think splitting the difference to make it 5 is fine. It's not a walk through wilderness, overgrown as it may have become over a few decades, there had to have been a road from the town to the castle. This is a problem with every published adventure, though, I think. No one writing ever seems to realize how short a walk a mile is.

Yeah, my favorite creative response which solves this is to describe it this way

From the city you can see the Citadel a mile away as the crow flies. But while travelling up the hill the path winds up steeply and may even go circular around the hill taking about 10 miles as the cart moves, or however long of a distance we want. This also solves for the

Travel Spoiler:
underground passage, as that would only be a mile and becomes a very useful tool for adventurers instead of having to travel 10 miles along the path and makes the citadel that much more defensible


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DanyRay wrote:

Vic, any plan to produce pack with Ap variant monster/ new monsters /NPC?

I think those would be usefull while running AP as much for stats reference as for showing NPC to the player.

If it is feasible, think expansion pack, or booster packs. I like the idea of a booster pack being available at the same time, or just after, an AP gets shipped for subscriptions!

I'd pay 5 bucks for a booster pack of 5-10 card for each AP Module release. I know they eventually make it in to bestiaries, but not all do and some take a long time. Could add in the NPC's with stat blocks too.

Love this idea! +1


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4x6, playing card thickness... all that is missing is that they aren't in my hands yet.... man this is a welcomed addition.

These will be a success, so my next question is: Will we have to wait for a Bestiary 2/3/4 release or are there plans to get the Adventure Path/Standalone Adventure monsters out before new Bestiaries?

I feel like AP/Adv decks have a golden opportunity to get NPC stat blocks in our hands with art too :D


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Marco, appreciate that you list these things out as we get new updates:D

And I agree, this set is going to be good for filling in spots of my 2e needs.


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Went to add a subscription and the price discount for the new set isn't the same discount for the previous, its like it is flagged by MSRP instead of Paizo Price. Posted in a couple spots but since this is up I am posting here too.

Posted in the Sub Thread and in CS forum.

Thanks! Want to add the sub under the correct prices!


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Now that we have a product page can we get a 'start subscription with Legendary Adventures'?

:D

Think I am going to start up a sub with the new kobolds and the goblin village? Really can't say no to this.


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Marco Massoudi wrote:

Official Legendary Adventures Gallery with pictures of the actual preview pack & goblin village minis

The goblin village looks really nice and could also be used for a generic walled village.

Yup, that did it, pretty sure that right there just got me to start subscribing to the mini's line....


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Read again. Them good. Me alone bad.


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Rysky wrote:
Yoshua wrote:
Think you may be reading a bit way too much into my comment there.
Quote:
So much better than a half thought out lycanthropy situation.
How was that not supposed to be an insult?

Wow. That is a compliment.

You have way too much time on your hands.

Read what I write, feel free to not intentionally misinterpret when someone (me this time) have already explained to you the answer you are looking for.

For example, you asked how that isnt an insult? Well, I literally just explained it in the post above yours.

Yoshua wrote:
Half Thought Out complaint goes to a curse instead of a magical being. A full thought out Anadi will beat out what I could have come up with on my own if I went with lycanthropy...


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
I thought I'd get some love for my "Spooder people" theme song...

I smiled


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Rysky wrote:
Yoshua wrote:

Love the the idea of the Anadi

So much better than a half thought out lycanthropy situation. Looking forward to using them in this path!

???

Never hear of a Werespider? ;D


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Love these, got 2 of the Fumbus from PaizoCon, ordered these as well and 2 coming from Kingmaker.... This will become a new obsession


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Thank you for doing everything you can Paizo. It is appreciated.

Archon has a shady history too. Hope you guys know what you are doing, but complimenting them for completing kickstarters is going to be a kick to the groin for anyone who backed Prodos/Archon AvP and never got delivered.


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THANK YOU - But yes, the icons for the actions and the area for Free Action/Reaction on the color sheet appears to be errored out.

Black and white looks pristine!

THANK YOU


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Started doing something similar last night for Hell Knight Hill.

Finding that just making a character will touch on the new rules out of the box.

Going to make a pre gen lvl 1 for each class and let my players select the one they want to use. Did Bard and started Alchemist.

My players will be fresh to the genre so all of the rules will be new for them, but following this in case anyone throws out some neat ideas.

Also finding that pre genning for players familiar with 1st edition, while time saving, will rob them of some of the understanding of how and why the new rules exist. If any of my players were familiar with 1st edition I'd probably step them through making a new or updating their existing to the new character rules so they could understand better why some things have changed.


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And when you say for a party of 4, you mean each member gets that amount.

Making sense to me. Thanks for the follow up!


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Need mini's for these new versions... Wide heads of these dragonlords are needed


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Now that I have the book in hand, seriously want a copy of official character sheets..... These or the ones from the book, but mostly these. August 1st can't come soon enough, need these on PDF


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Ghost725 wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
If you know that when you walk into a certain room, you're going to get slapped in the face, it can be hard to work up the courage to go in that room.

Courage.....its spineless is what that is...

I know what courage looks like...20 year active military now retired..
courage is getting up at 3am from a dead sleep to go do something totally risky to go save someone from the jaws of death. so telling us that they don't have the spine to get up in front of the people who backed them to give an update is just BS.

and oh if i was criticizing ND you would know it. all i am doing is putting information up front and center for all to see how crappy of a job they are doing in BASIC COMMUNICATION on what is going on.

so here are your stats....

Last OFFICIAL UPDATE April 15 - 94 days ago
Last OFFICIAL POST - 72 Days ago

Ghost, while all true, the way this comes off is a general anger which someone may feel attacked when giving information. Paizo, especially Vic/Sara Marie, are pretty great at understanding our frustration. But people are people and my not always express their thoughts in a way that we/I will process them the way they intended.

Hoping much like you have here. Again, I 100% agree with every sentiment you have up there, and our Paizo peeps probably get it too.

The spine comment is an observation from one person saying that ND isn't handling it the way they would like. Bravery and Cowardice (same coin different sides) comes in all shapes and sizes.

From page 1 of this thread ND customers have come here warning just what type of business practices ND has. From day 1 of the kickstarter people like myself posted on the kickstarter exactly what ND would do.

I still backed. Because I knew there was a chance at the mini's and that was the path Paizo had chosen.

I warned others, and knew what I was getting into. If people didn't heed the warning based on Paizo's reassurances then that is on them, and Eric has posted up his thoughts and reasons in this tread.

Honestly feel like Paizo is doing everything they can for the situation, doesn't feel like it is alot, and I am still frustrated. But the CS peeps that support us are just doing their jobs at this point, and as communicative as they are on the Paizo side surprises me with how I've seen failing projects handled in the past.

ND was a sinking boat, disappointed Paizo went with them. But people wanted miniatures as quickly as possible and that was what Paizo deemed the best avenue at the time.

ND is claiming they are working on the problem, Paizo is saying they are seeing progress. At this point, even with ND communication failures, that is still more than I expected this far along...

tl;dr

Paizo is holding up their end on communicating what they can. I don't want to bite the hand that keeps coming back with information because of how pissed off I am at ND for failing to do so.

Agree with every one of your points though, just wish we could direct them at the people who deserve it and know they heard them.


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Package is flagged out for delivery... fingers crossed :D


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Would love this for myself, would love a pdf of this even more though so I could make items needed for my players equipment sets. Otherwise each player would need their own set potentially or as a game master I'd need 4 or more copies potentially?

Card list would be nice too, love this product, will likely get it, but could be a bit more useable as a pdf


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It is an option that will allow players to continue through an adventure/dungeon without requiring them to head out, or back to town, to recharge.

I played 2e at Paizo Con and had the chance to play Ezran. Will say I felt a crap ton more effective being able to recharge my focus between fights.

It was an intro game, so I am sure a few rules were smudged, but in the end it allowed me to reuse magic missile multiple times through the dungeon. The limits I believe were I had a feat that allowed me to use a focus point to re use a spell I had already cast that day. The 10 minutes was essentially some 'me' time. I wasn't the person making decisions for the group so while they were 'discussing' what direction to go I said I was regaining my focus and went with the party when it moved.

The other option was just using Magic Missile once and sitting on it. My cantrips were nice, but they weren't going to pull the damage that Valeros or Fumbus were with their standard attacks.

As the person that will be running the game for my household allowing my kids to feel like they are contributing to the adventure is more important than making sure they aren't doing absolutely anything else when regaining a focus.

Not sure exactly what the Cleric did to regain but Kyra was doing the same as I was.


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I know this is for Dhamphir and Aasimars but... Lycanthropy/Vampire feats that unlock feats if you get infected....


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Eric, I wanted to say first and foremost. Thank you for posting.

That isn't what has impressed me in the last 24 hours though. We expected a post much earlier, as you know. The delay raised the anxiety of alot of your customers, me included. It raised tensions and in my opinion leads to the raised tensions between the people frustrated with the kickstarter and the people who, may or may not have backed the kickstarter, want to defend Paizo and the legacy.

You guys have a legacy, this will be a blip in it.

What I want to say is that I am impressed that you continued to come back and answer people. That is the type of communication that I am looking for. Not daily, not even weekly. But when your customers, who rely on your good word, put our money into a system that you guys imagined and built for us? Please communicate.

Can honestly say I put money on the kickstarter and did not intend to buy Starfinder materials until it delivered. I am still in that holding patern. As a fan of Pathfinder I had hopes for Starfinder and while Mini's aren't required to play a game? The 3d element is where I get alot of joy.

Don't wait so long between touching base on this issue. Press for information and continue being an advocate for us. I never thought you weren't, but I was very frustrated that ND went radio silent and Paizo wasn't here to support us.

We invest in you, you should invest in us.


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Got a chance to talk to Mike and one of his cohorts (was introduced but with so much back noise didn't pick up his name) for a minute at Emerald City Comic Con this weekend while picking up his book The Maze of Games that I can't wait to dive into. They were really excited about the changes coming up :D

Really looking forward to see what comes of all the work of streamlining alot of the 'features' I had gripes with in the original release of the Adventure Card Game into a solidified Core Set that will be used with any expansion I want to drop in. Would be neat if there was a way to drop Runelords or Wrath of the Righteous into the new set. Even if home brewed.

I know they haven't been able to talk about all of the changes yet, closer we get to Paizo Con the more excited I am to get my hands on whatever news drops about the ACG.

Thanks for the work you guys and gals have put into this! It is appreciated!


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Really love Spell and Ability cards. Item/Weapon cards are neat but having class cards is where it is at for me. Will likely use the new layout for the Adventure Card Game and make my own, but really want official cards :D


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Sara Marie,

Even through frustrations, I appreciate you and the work you guys do. It's not easy when projects don't go according to plan.

Thank you for your post, it is appreciated by me, and likely many others. Paizo Fans are still hoping for a positive outcome, but even if that isn't in the cards it is appreciated that you have maintained communications throughout.

Personally I have written off any physical product that I didn't receive as a loss. Anything more than that will be a welcomed surprise.

All I expect at this point is communication. If I feel like at a bare minimum we aren't kept in the loop then I personally will feel a loss of confidence in a company that I have promoted to anyone interested in playing RPG's since I found you.

Can not over communicate, but I can understand the careful wording to not jeopardize any positive outcomes as well.


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No, very clearly people are saying they want the people who convinced them to spend the money, literally took the time to tell them that they should have confidence in Ninja Division, to take at minimum the same amount of time to say.

"My Bad"

But you know, keep reading between lines that don't exist.

Lots of hours in the day, and if you can't spare a moment for the people you helped rob? Speaks volumes and the people who were robbed will wind up getting more and more vocal and then start voting with their dollars.

But, you know, keep using words other than what people are saying to minimize their actual message and continue making them feel ignored. That is also an option. Not one I'd recommend but it appears to be your go to choice.


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Redelia wrote:
The point is not whether an apology is needed, it is that those demanding an apology and explanation are being premature.

You think that with Ninja Divisions recent public announcement of laying off their entire company except 3 people and their very blatant mismanagement of funds that people asking for an explanation and apology are being premature?

Interesting.

I mean, someone can apologize for being wrong while also explaining what their plans are to make things right.

Pretty sure that there is no 'it's too soon'situation when it comes to that.


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Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:

"I never did pick up the Starfinder books, wasn't going to get into it unless I had some models to go with it."

I doubt you were the only one with this mindset, and Paizo was aware of that.

They needed minis for Starfinder's launch. WizKids turned them down. Reaper turned them down. Ninja Division didn't.

Context is everything, and yea I definitely see that side of the point.

Thank you for the follow up.

After I posted that I don't have anything Starfinder I picked up the humble bundle. So with full transparency I will be taking a look at that PDF this weekend.

Was hoping to use this years Paizocon to get into Starfinder as a player. This situation with Ninja Division has me gutted, but I may still sign up for Starfinder entry games to check it out.


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Really hope that Paizo has better news or at the minimum condemning Ninja Division before Paizo Con. You have a Con in a couple of months and this will definitely be the talk of the town. Will feel sorry for all your volunteers having to listen to people who got robbed.

I am one of the lucky that did get some space goblins and my Seelah space paladin.

May just paint them and bring them in to be a topic starter at the tables I play at for my minis.

I never did pick up the Starfinder books, wasn't going to get into it unless I had some models to go with it. Didn't pick up my first Paizo book, Rise of the Runelords Anniversary, until I'd already bought the Rise of the Runelords Case/Huges/Gigantic models and had most of the mini's needed to run the campaign.

This experience had the opportunity to bring alot more faithful subscribers to the new game you made. Beautiful game you made. But because you still seem to be standing side by side with Ninja Division proclaiming that they are doing 'the best they can' to deliver when they are in the hole?

Your fans are who you should be concerned about. Not even talking about making good on the miniatures. Every time we, sorry I, read Sara talk about the efforts of Ninja Division it stings.

Why? Because we told you so. We told you who you were getting into business with and Eric and others came into this thread to tell us how confident you were in Ninja Divisions ability to deliver.

We told you so.

And you are still telling us we are wrong when we are telling you that you should be distancing yourself from Ninja Division.

If you can work something out with Archon to deliver what they have? Even that is going to leave alot of people upset as they didn't even finish the entire project from what people are saying. Even if they shipped out every miniature in their warehouse that is already made? Some of your fans are going to be coming out with a loss.

And that should anger you alot more than it appears to be.

You should full stop, take the temperature of the room, and realize that you are going to be losing your customers over this.

Probably not me. Honestly I love your products and am looking forward to Pathfinder 2.0. I bought a hard copy and a soft copy of the beta, all of the extras and love what you guys have done with it.

But if this is the level of engagement and the commitment being made to your new product lines? It leaves me wondering about v2's future.

Again Paizo Con is coming. You guys should be looking out for your customers. Word of mouth is everything for a company that depends on this niche group. Same way Paizo snagged a discontent D&D generation? There may be a hungry company out there looking to fill a niche there too.

Even Zombicide is coming out with RPG rules.... I mean, anything is possible.

/rambling off


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The comments on the new Ninja Division update is pure gold.

People asking for the .stl files.... That would be glorious, but no way Paizo would let their IP into the wild... Would they?

Obvious no one is getting a refund.

Best comment so far is the guy saying they should go back and find the people who told everyone Ninja Division was shady and would take the money and run.... And thank them/apologize for not listening. lol... That was just gold.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/325468910/starfinder-masterclass-minia tures/posts/2420184


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Good news! Public Forum from Ninja Division!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/325468910/starfinder-masterclass-minia tures/posts/2420184

No money, never intended to deliver. And as your customers warned, you were getting into business with a devious company that was known not to deliver. Personally would like to hear from Eric Mona as he was the person in the first page of this thread telling us

"We are aware of some of the issues with some of the earlier campaigns, but we are confident in the work that Ninja Division has shown us so far, in the Starfinder miniatures they have already produced and sold at Gen Con, and in their ability to deliver this project in the timeframe they have promised."

Shutting down this post and removing information was another bad move for Paizo. Where previously you had a location where your customers felt safe to come and get information and talk about an issue, you now have customers, me specifically, feeling as though we are being silenced because.... you want to protect a company that robbed your customers?

This does not add up. Do better.


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James Todd wrote:

I'm trying to recall the timeline, but as far as I can tell Paizo would have to be negligent or willfully blind to have done this.

SDE:L was...a year? ...late when they started this. Simple vetting of this partner would have shown issues in pretty much ALL recent KS projects from ND, and in fact in SDE you can see clear misstatements/lies about the state of the project.

I, and many others raised red flags for Paizo before the kickstarter ended.

Paizo made a statement that they had full confidence in Ninja Division to fulfill the pledges.

Paizo made the statement that they believed a shady company over the word of their long time customers.

Paizo needs to make this right.

I am just glad I was only in for a little over 100. I knew the risk was there. Warned others that the risk was there, but I also wanted access to the miniatures.

Paizo told me to have confidence it would be fulfilled. I told everyone backing to only pledge what they were willing to donate.

Got about 20, maybe 25 worth of miniatures. So here's hoping I get the other 75, but at this point it is likely a donation to a previous kickstarter.

Unless Paizo can make this right.


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Realizing you weren't replying to me :D


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Got an answer from Vic on the use of the renders. No go. I'm good with that. Probably means the logos will be a no go as well except in releasing them here for community use. Will do that if I am happy with the way they turn out. Thanks for the input peeps.


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Thanks for releasing the dungeon scenery! picked up 4 of these!

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