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Thefurmonger wrote:

Im reading it, tho im mostly upset for YOU. You spent countless hours writing a guide for a class they just killed.

Eh, about 3/4 of the Guide is still relevant. And over the three years (!) since I wrote and posted it, lots of people have used it to have fun. Three years is a pretty good run. No complaints.

I may or may not update it; TBD.

Doug M.

I hope that even if you dont fully update, that you put a blurb at the front explaining what happened. If only because it is PFS legal (or was)

Are you still writing guides? I really like your writing style.

Hey all,

So I was curious if there is a guide to the Goliath Druid out there?

Seems different enough from the standard to need a totally different build.

Thanks all.

I have to say, this is the stupidest thing I think I have ever read.

A player that did this at a game I am running would be invited to leave.

The why is we don't know the details and are giving the gm the benefit of the doubt rather than jumping on them based on one side of a story.

^^^101% this

Yeah sadly the guide seems to be gone, and uses the wizard route (Admixture IIRC)

As the iconic blaster is a sor, i would have thought there would be something out there.

I would be happy to pay good money for, "Absalom, it's pretty sweet" the hardback.

Generally remaking a thread that is locked is a no-no

The curator of Nethys does his work for free out of his own time and doesn't clutter up his site with adds, or constantly bombard you with popups the way PFSRD does everytime you visit the site. When you go to PFSRD you get hit with the commrecialism right off.

The aesthetics of the Nethys site actually gives you an atmosphere of peering through the scrolls of an arcane library. And I've never had any problems with it's search function.

I agree that its a wonderful site. I use it all the time.

My only question was in regards to a small complaint being characterized as "Pissing on it", Dude said he didn't care for the colors, and that it was a personal thing.

Also yes, the search on d20pfsrd is better and easier to use, at least to me, and it seems at least one other guy.

Having said all that, I generally love your posts, and find your opinions to be good and insightful. In this case I think you jumped a guy for nothing.

How is saying he doesn't like the colors, and the fact that the search function is not the best "pissing on one of the more notable VOLOUNTEER pieces of work from the community."

Neyths is amazing, and a great resource, but having said that the search is awful, and the black background does bug some people.

Your pissed that your GM made it hard for you to murder a helpless person?

Not judging..... just checking.

Oracle, can cover every role really well.

My Oracle hands out Heightened Continual Flames. One more game and they'll be spell level 5. At the start of the game I let players know about the service, and have them buy 50gp worth of ruby dust (if they're interested). Depending on what the timeframe of the scenario is, I'll either cast it before a long journey or by the end of the scenario.

My wife's 10th level Sorc does the same for anyone she adventures with.

My wife has a 10th level sorcerer that took heighten for this spell ONLY. each game she asks if anyone wants one.

The now official thread to hopefully get Jiggy to recap all your favorite debates from old thread.

Seconded.

14. Find a new GM that is NOT a total dick.

I would LOVE to see a Pathfinder version of the old 3.5 Beguiler. It was far and away my favorite class.

First off let me say how much I enjoyed reading your MT guide. I had planned to do one in PFS (not now) but may still do one in a home game.

I urge you to leave the guide up, just with a disclaimer explaining what happened. Even without early entry some people did play MTs, and will continue to do so.

Your guide is one of the best written out there and frankly is a joy to read.

I hope you go ahead and write another as I personally love the style and presentation.

As for what to do next? I would love to see some of the prestige classes that have no help get some. the guides would be smaller, and would fill a niche that currently is empty.

Again, thank you.

Hey all,

So we all know the normal adventuring equipment, bedroll, cloak, insanely magic weapon and armor, stat boosts etc.

What about stuff for someone that likes to live the high life?
Someone that has Mending and Prestidigitation to keep his silk jammies clean and heat his bath water.

Are there magic items to make the road less crappy? Instant pavilions? perhaps with unseen servants built in?

Clothes that are always the height of fashion?

Think Rod of splendor, but more then 1/week.

Thanks for the help.

For the curious it is for a Lore oracle who works as a sage and is used to the better things in life.

Hey all,

So I'm joining a new campaign (all Pathfinder books allowed) and the char creation rules are odd.

All characters will get MAXIMUM Hit Points for their first three Character levels.

New Attribute value Cost in XP
8-10 1,000
11-15 2,500
16-18 5,000
18-20 10,000

Now this is all well and good, but it does make for fairly low stats and makes MAD classes non-viable (IMHO)

So I was thinking Orc Scarred Witch?

I prefer full casters, but im kinda thrown here.

Any ideas would be helpful.

I'm speechless.

Not much to add to this...

right so as this is PFS fully 3/4 of play is gone before he can do this and he has to be HUGE to pull it off. and most PFS combats do not give room for that.

Cord of something or other.

Magic item that makes fatigue into damage

I would like tho throw myself into the "The Fighter has a decent point" camp.

Th Oracle wants to bring a Evil outsider into the group. An outsider that can commune each week with it's boss.

I for one would take issue with an evil spy in the party, I have to sleep with one eye open now just so the Oracle can have a pet? No thanks.

Not only can the Imp commune all about us, it can kill me as I sleep.
The Oracle's anwser of "well if it does anything evil you can do what you like" would not really make me sleep any better.

If it betrays the party or kills the fighter in her sleep, what is the Oracle going to do? say "Oops..... I guess you were right.... um, my bad...."?

Honestly I don't blame the fighter at all for how she is taking it.

When did the OP say the fighter threatened the Oracle?

People keep saying it but I think he just threatened the Imp.

there is always Infernal healing, its a sorc/wizard spell that heals.

I just got my schedule.

Jealous

My wife Tracey and I should be there all 4 days.

I am happy to do some GMing if needed.

Really it all comes down to hotel cost.

I think everyone is getting caught up in the "Copyright" and "Legal" argument when no one from Paizo has said anything about it.

The Pathfinder Society campaign has rules.

Those rules are not in question. We all know them.

Paizo and Mike could say "to play PFS you must wear a trout on your head and use only blue dice" that is their right.

It has zero to due with what is legal in what country, if you want to play PFS, please follow the rules we have set out. It's that easy.

If people feel that the rule is too much, don't agree with it, think it sucks, etc. then you can use whatever photocopy you want in a home campaign. Lots of people do it, and I like to think Paizo still loves you even when a whole group shares one book and uses a ton of 3pp.

But for the PFS campaign there are rules. this is one of them.

We as PFS judges are not the police, we are not their mom's, what we are however are voulnters that agree to run the PFS campaign according to the rules Paizo and Mike have set out.

One of those rules has to due with people and what books/pdfs they use/have with them.

The argument that "It's a freakin game" or "Come on dick, we are here to make it more fun"

I have several players in my local group that do not find it fun to have their character die. should I ignore the rule that says it could happen?

I am sure others would have more fun if they could play a goblin PC without a boon, should I just let it slide as it "adds to the fun"?

Again, like it or not, there are rules in place. When we agree to judge PFS we agree to follow them.

Maerimydra wrote:

Seriously if the way your GM runs Feather Fall displease you so much, why don't you just pick another spell to memorize? The other party members probably do not have access to Feather Fall and something tells me that they won't all end up dead at the bottom of a pit (but I could be wrong). Furthermore, if you're the spellcaster, you should not be the one walking in front of the party, triggering all the pit trap by walking on them. Even if your GM requires you to make a concentration check, it's not that hard to succeed and Feather Fall is still a good first-level spell since it can counter what I would describe as the most powerful low-level spells in the game: pit spells.

You're completely right, it's hardly the end of the world.

Still, it's an interesting example of how a restrictive and/or inexperienced GM can miss the point of a mechanic because of the rules failing to specifically outline an underlying assumption.

Or it could be another underlying assumption that is flat out wrong.

The fact that all of us thought it worked one way does not make it correct, just look at "flury as TWF" to see that 95% of players (and about 50% of writers) can be totally wrong about how a rule works.

As someone who have bought several books just to use one thing from it I have no sympathy for this.

Players know the rule, it is up to them if they want to use any given rule. If they do, then they need to get the book.

When I GM I actually enforce the rule.

If you use some obscure thing, then have a copy with you.

My best advice is simply this "DO NOT PLAY A RAGE CHEMIST"

I know thats harsh, but think about this.

you take a -2 Int from Mutagen then a -2 damn close to every time you take dammage.

when you hit 0 Int your out.

God forbid you ever go to level 6 alch. at that point you are at -4 each time.

In order to make this work at all you need to invest HEAVY in Will save. At that point just take the feats you would have spent on will and make yourself better in combat.

Also remember as soon as your int drops below 11 you stop being able to use any extracts.

So really, this is just a BAD idea.

Rage Chem is just really, really bad.

Like worse then Titan mauler bad.

yeah i had not even thought about just clubbing a rat/dog/baby seal for your points.

well, honestly you only need 1.

Wyroot says that the target is unharmed, so you could just hit the same guy over and over.

if you would rule that they still have to save vs the coup then yes, you may need more then one. still tho, getting one point back per target is pretty good after the combat.

And please as we reply let's remember this is the rules forum.

Can't we just be proactive and ban all threads with either "Monk" "Flurry of blows" or "AMF" in the title?

It would seem that would cut down about 90% of the crap on the boards.

Also on a personal note, Making it personal with regards to the designers is uncalled for.

If you don't like a product, don't buy it.

If you don't like how a company does thing, vote with your wallet.

But please don't come here and be a dick to those that put out a game that most of us really like.

I just think the sorcerer and the wizard suck, downright suck. There, I said it.

To say you are wrong is not saying 1% of the case.

I'm sorry, I stoped there.

While I fully agree with the above that MT is a total turd of a class, I have a slightly different take on it.

Yes, it's total crap.

Yes, you can still play it in PFS and have fun.

Are you going to be uber powerful? well no.

Do you need to be to contribute to your party? also no.

Bottom line is that PFS is not a campaign that requires high op, in fact, you can get by with a fun, not as great character just fine.

So play whats fun, seriously.

for the first 7 levels you are only rocking 2nd level spells. (this is assuming you went prepared)

But a spont caster is only useing 3rds at 7th, so really your only 1 spell level behind.

At 8th, you get dual 3rds, the spont is only just getting 4ths, so again your not that bad off.

so my advice is "Go for it"

MAKE BARBARIAN. SUNDER GROUND.

Nice to see you back AM.

Drill am pierce the.... ground?

the evolved familiar feat.

gives a 1 pt evolution.

there is a 1 pt evo that gives a +8 racial to one skill.

So you do that arcane mark jank huh?

As long as the archers are doing rapid shot (+1 attack/-2 hit)

And the TWFs are well... fighting with two weapons (+1 attack/-2 hit)

then yep, I will also be useing my class feature to get..... (+1 attack/-2 hit). Only difference is I have to make a concentration check to do it, and they dont.

Short anwser is..... You don't

If ever you are unsure on how casting defensivly works, just find someone that plays a Magus, they WILL know the rules as they use them every round.

Currently I play a level 7 magus and have devoted a lot to making this check easier.

Sadly if you use your magus ability to get a bonus equal to your int mod and take the same penelty to hit, you will miss, a LOT.

Here is the breakdown for Sebatian, you can check out his sheet Here

My take was to make it automatic as soon as I could.

The DC to cast are as follows.

Cantrip DC 15
level 1 DC 17
level 2 DC 19
level 3 DC 21

In order to do this and still have all the damage output I did the following.

Caster Level +6 (I splashed Unarmed fighter)
Combat Casting +4
Int Mod +3 (this could be higher)
Gloves of Elvenkind +5 (Buy these, seriously, just do it)

This gives me a +18, +19 when casting Arcane mark and Shocking grasp thanks to the trait "Precocious Spellcaster" (Take this)

Anyway thats how I did it, and this is a PFS character so it was played all the way from level 1.

If you want to direct your ire at somebody, direct it to those who did not follow through on their commitments and tossed a series of monkey wrenches into the prep that went into this event.

And I understand that happened, and I really do thank those that did what they said they would do.

I don't think the complaints are about the cluster that was the muster.

It happens, it sucks, but Mike and co did a great job trying to get through it.

However having said that..

If you (the powers that be) know that the game is a challenge to get done with in 5 hours, and you also know some tables only are going to get 4ish hours, then you need to do something.

Don't let them win if they didnt finish, thats cool.

But killing the whole table due to missing the 5 hour mark when they only had 4? Thats just not right.

Again, everyone did a great job under the circumstances, and our GM did his best. but he was behind the 8 ball when he sat down, then addin several templated creatures that he had to convert?

Hey all,

So first off, great guide!! Thanks for writing it.

Second I have never built a Ninja before.

So my wife recently received a PFS boon to play a Kitsune.

She was intrested in doing a Kinsune Ninja, mostly as we have the Kitsune and she wants to play a Ninja :)

Anyway, I instantly thought of somehow getting SA with natural weapons, Kitsune get a bit naturaly.

Sadly I am just not seeing how this can work, is there an easy way to get claws without a 2 ranger dip? (Not that it would be that bad, but we would like to avoid multi)

Past that I was thinking TWF, but good lord is that a lot of feats.

and lastly..

How do I make the Kitsune Ninja different from the Human Ninja? (all I can manage is that the Human is WAY better, and while yes that is different, it's not really what we had in mind)

Thanks all.

Bard would fit fairly well.

Sadly I think shes still leaning Ninja. Now to just figure out how to make it work.

The issue is that Humans are just better, so how do i leverage Kitsune to make a bad ass Ninja?

Also unlike most other scenarios you can replay first steps, so the player pool doesn't diminish.

Really for us at least this is it.

Evary new character we make runs through First Steps 1-3.

I actually say this because the Osirioni Samuraii was designed off of a Reaper mini, the Black Legionaire. If you look that one up, you'll see what I mean. His sword is curved, as a katana, but has a notch in the back that is reminiscent to the curved edge of the khopesh.

Other than plopping the mini down on the table, how do you describe that?

As you may have noticed the racial heritage/treesinger thread was started by me.

I mention this so you know that on a lot of this I am on your side.

however in anwser to the mini question there are 2 anwsers.

1. most of us have seen players use a d20 as how they represent a barbarian, personally I have adventured with a skittle sorcerer once. so really, what the mini looks like is not a huge deal. this is not WYSIWYG.

2. were it me, I would do this.
Me, ploping down the mini you mentioned "Ok, this is my guy as you can see he is awesome, and is wielding a Katana.

Jackass other player "Um, dude, I'm fairly sure that is not a katana, that looks more like a Kopesh"

Me "........ No, it's a katana"

JOP "Are you sure, when i studied ancient swords for 4 years there were no katanas that looked like that"

Me "look dude, its a katana" Turn to Judge.. "So anyway, you were saying?"

Not really adding anything to the discusion here however...

I will be the first to admit that as soon as these become legal, every character I have will buy a closet full of them.

Seriously, for 5k you can have an extra move every fight. thats like mini-pounce.

Do I think it's game breaking? not really.

Do I think it's game changing? oh my yes.

Hey all.

So here is a great story for you all.

My wife and I decided to drive to Western MI to play a game this last Sat (we live on the east side, about a 2 1/2 hour drive)

Anyway, the point being we did not really know anyone at our table.

Going in we really wanted to make a good impression on everyone, you know, make sure to RP well, not overshadow the rest of the group, fight as a team, the norm.

So we start in a level 5-9 game (playing 5-6 as we were all level 6)
I will not go into what adventure as to not ruin it for people.

Anyway the first combat is Vs 2 Annis Hags. seems like a tough combat for our group, they do a lot of damage, decent AC, loads of attacks, CR 6 each.

So this is where it went downhill......

You remember the "Not overshadow the group" part from above?

Yeah.....

First round of combat the Pali provokes one of them and does some damage (not a lot).

My magus steps in and casts shocking grasp (intense, 6d6)...
Hit.
Crit.
Roll... (dear lord, nearly max)

Me: "I do 80 damage to it.... do you care how much is what type?"

Dm :"Wait..... You do how much?!?!?!"

For what its worth on her Init, my wife dropped the other one in a Create pit.

So thats how it went all night, all i rolled was crits, I could not lose. but really thats not the point.

So anyway, what are some of your "Wait...... What?!?!?" moments from GM's?

I know others have made the whole table go O_o..... in the past.

“You may also select Aasimar, Tiefling, or Tengu as your character’s race with access to the proper Additional Resources book.”

Awesome.

Just curious if you plan to include the new plant companions for the even Treesinger druid?