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Update: Sometime in the past two days the physical copies of the 1st edition Kingmaker Bestiary sold out.

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On one hand I would prefer that the players of clerics of Gorum would need to figure out what is next for their PC and continue building from there. Do they become a fighter? Do they go to a new god? I think that would add a lot of good fluff to the campaign and characters.

On the other hand, you may be ticking off a lot of players who have put a lot of time and money into their PC (buying books, going to game days and conventions) and the complete rebuild seems like a good compromise.

I would really love to see an existing Gorum cleric PC can spend an adventure godless and earn a boon after showing their transition to a new god or class.


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Arutema wrote:
Swiftbrook wrote:
As I've posted before, a price increase from $3.99 to $8.99 is a 125% increase. All production costs for these scenarios has already been paid, years ago. The only ongoing cost is the cost to maintain the files on the server and the web description pages. Under Paizo's current business practices, customers have access to digital purchases on the Paizo servers until the practices change, so these are (small) ongoing costs.
Server space isn't free. The choice may well be increase prices, or wipe old 1e content from the servers to save space.

If you wipe it off the servers to save space, then Paizo is changing it's practice/policy and customers will not be able to download previous purchased PDFs.


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Ed Reppert wrote:
Michael Hebert 10 wrote:
The old pdf increase is just greed. The remainder of the price increases is expected but would have been better at 50% of increase. Costs are up for businesses but putting so much onto the consumer is extreme.
As for your first sentence, prove it. As for your last, see my previous post regarding economics.

As I've posted before, a price increase from $3.99 to $8.99 is a 125% increase. All production costs for these scenarios has already been paid, years ago. The only ongoing cost is the cost to maintain the files on the server and the web description pages. Under Paizo's current business practices, customers have access to digital purchases on the Paizo servers until the practices change, so these are (small) ongoing costs.

I suspect, the price increase on older 1e PDF scenarios is also PR related. Paizo want to steer customers to the new products, which do cost more to make. Having inexpensive first edition produces available for significantly less than current products is an incentive to purchase them and not move to the newest edition. The downside to this price increase on old products is that some customers will see this as being greedy. I suspect Paizo has picked a price point that will maintain the current cash flow of 1e PDF products even with a reduced number of sales while pushing customers to 2e.

I also suspect that 1e purchases are making up a smaller and smaller amount of their sales. Overall, from what I see locally, Paizo's significantly smaller present at conventions (GenCon & Origins in particular) and the traffic I perceive on various websites, it looks like Paizo's sales are down all around. A GM needing to pay almost twice as much to get into the print remastered (2.5) edition, wont help. ($109.98 to $179.97)


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Aaron Shanks wrote:
Also, if you know a school, library, club, or nonprofit that does not restrict its membership and needs Pathfinder or Starfinder products to get started, please email community@paizo.com with a request!

This is good to know. I appreciate that you are supporting these organizations.

However, I find the raising prices on already published PFS, SFS, etc, scenarios is bad all around. It appears that all your costs for these products have been paid and any income generated from them is just profit. Under your new pricing, over half of your scenarios are more than doubling in price (125% increase) going from $3.99 to $8.99, for PFS-1e seasons 0 thru 7. These seems excessive, to say the least.


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The more I read about the Remastered edition, the more it is sounding like Pathfinder 3.0, not even Pathfinder 2.5. There are so many changes, not just in mechanics, but in concept as well. I'm sure there must be some marketing reason why they are not changing the number, but the reality is that this is a new edition.


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Preparing to run this at GenCon. I'm trying to figure out the BBEG tactics. The first full paragraph on page 7 tries to describe them, but there is missing text.

spoilers:
Bounty 19 page 7 wrote:
If the PCs press against him, he uses to keep them separated, then follows-up with and to spring a trap or lockdown PCs who get close.

I believe there is missing text here::

Bounty 19 page 7 wrote:
If the PCs press against him, he uses missing text to keep them separated, then follows-up with missing text and to spring a trap what trap? or lockdown PCs who get close.

What does he use? What does he follow up with? What is the trap he springs?


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I played this a few months ago and it was fun.

I'm preparing to run this soon, but I had one gripe when I played it concerning

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the Communicate From The Beyond mechanism. Success and a Critical Success seem way to extreme. I'm thinking about adjusting the mechanic when I run it. Something like for every point you get above a success, you get two more words.


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And as time runs out . . . .

103,315 bundles sold.
$183,765 raised for charity.
$25.01 average purchase.

And . . . . . .
they extended it for another 7 days. They have done this many times in the past. It might be that Humble Bundle has a two week limit, but that's just speculation.


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Swiftbrook wrote:
Two day and over 50,000 bundles sold. By my record keeping, this is now the second biggest Pathfinder Humble Bundle, and there is still 17 days to go (plus any extension). The largest Pathfinder Humble Bundle, by my records, was the first in March of 2016 with 77,500+ sold. I think this will surpass that one.

2/13/2023 Update: 79,360+ bundles sold! Most ever with nine days to go. My estimates shows this bundle has brought in about $2,000,000, almost $140,000 for the charity.


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Aaron Shanks wrote:
edxerox wrote:
Cheers, didn't see the new classics coming out. But its still a cutback - no flip tiles - prob. due to production costs.
The pandemic has not been kind to accessories. We will make more if people buy more.

Interesting. The majority of my last several purchases have been game accessories. Minis, pawns, maps, spell templates, and cards.


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Banedon_421 wrote:

Hello!

Could you explain the presence of those mono-colored hexes all over the Stolen Lands? They are selectable but I can't delete them (read-only access), they hide most of the map and I don't see any use to them.

Apart of that, I pretty much like the map :)

It looks like it's a Google file of some kind. If you make a copy of it in your Google drive, you can select and delete the mono-colored hexes to uncover the terrain below.


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blog wrote:
Standalone Adventures $15.99–$17.99 now $19.99

Just saw a product with this price change. Now this is a real head scratcher.

Pathfinder Module: Academy of Secrets
Print Price $13.99 (not a sale price)
Old PDF price was $9.99
New PDF price $19.99

I found a similar situation with Tomb of the Iron Medusa.

The new PDF price is 43% more than the print price.


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Update: Humble Bundle, after several back and forth emails, acknowledge that their system messed up in flagging my transaction and stopping my purchase. Unfortunately, they can not reinstate the purchase and donation. So still, no Strength of Thousands bundle for me.


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I've been looking at the companions in the First Edition Bestiary. I noticed they do not have any traits from the trait options. I was wondering if this was intentional or not. The companions in the 2E Companion Guide are built as full PCs, not NPCs. It seems like the companions in the 1E Bestiary should also be built that way. The 1E PFS Pregen sheets include traits.


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I got caught in a Humble Bundle trap um, undisclosed, post-payment requirement. I tried to pick up this bundle, Humble Bundle charged my credit card, then they sent me their ransom update request:

Humble Bundle email wrote:

Verify Phone Number

We need to verify your phone number to protect your payment account. We will run a pre-approval for the purchase, but we will not finalize the payment until your order for Humble RPG bundle: Pathfinder Second Edition Strength of Thousands by Paizo is available for download.

They did not send me the keys for the PDFs they charged me for. Yes, Humble Bundle had no problem charging my credit card. I checked. They are phishing asking for my phone number. It’s not needed. I’ve sent in a support request into Humble Bundle. No reply yet, but it's only been a few hours - I'm not knocking them for that yet.

YMMV


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Page 19: The map of the great hall should have a door on the east wall, north most square going into the east wing to match the East Wing map.

Page 27: First paragraph continuing Area A3c. Change "their separate ways to the east west". Areas A6 and A12 are to the west of area A3.


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I have a few issues with the Aldori Manor Great Hall map.

1) If it is to match up with the East Wing map, there needs to be a door on the east wall of the great hall in the north most square. It opens to a storage room (?) on the East Wing map.

2) I though Paizo was allowing picture extraction from their PDFs now to allow owners use the maps in VTT games. I can't extract the map.

3) I wish that the Great Hall would have been one of the maps in the Flip-Mat: Noble Manor Multi-Pack instead of one of the two thrown rooms.

note: I reposted this from the 1st edition Kingmaker forum as this is the correct forum.


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Berhagen wrote:
FWCain wrote:

Do the rules on kingdom building have "backwards compatibility" with the first edition rules (in "Ult. Campaign")? Did they just revise them for compatibility with second edition? Or did they rebuild them completely from scratch?

Thanks,
Franklin

Completely revised, much more streamlined. But also very different.

I would say it is a lot more manageable for the majority of groups though. I did originally create a relatively advanced spreadsheet (lovingly improved, updated and maintained by others - in particular Chemlak) but even if with that it the 1st edition was very involved to use…..

Is the spreadsheet still available somewhere online? My searching has failed me this time.


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Soon a Player’s Guide will be release for the Kingmaker Anniversary Edition. That will be for the second edition rules. I am preparing to run the AP with 1st edition rules. I suspect, but I don’t know, that an updated KM Player’s Guide will not be release for 1st edition. So, I’ve attempted to update the Campaign Traits in the original player;s guide with the new information presented in the Backgrounds for 2nd edition PCs. Your input is welcome!

Kingmaker AP Campaign Traits:

Bastard, now Brevic Outcast. Updated benefit: You take a –1 penalty on all Charisma-based skill checks made when dealing with members of Brevic nobility but as a result of your stubbornness and individuality, you gain a +1 trait bonus on Knowledge (nobility) checks and gain a +1 trait bonus on Will saves. If you manage to establish yourself as a true noble or secure a leadership role in a kingdom, you no longer take the penalty to Charisma-based checks.

Brigand, now Local Brigand. Updated benefit: You begin the campaign with an extra 100 gp in ill-gotten gains. You also gain a +1 trait bonus on Bluff, Intimidate, and Sleight of Hand, and one of these (your choice) becomes a class skill.
Issian  now Issian Patiot. Updated benefit: Your agile mind grants you a +1 trait bonus on all Will saves made to resist mind-affecting effects. You can use Knowledge (local) instead of Diplomacy to gather information.

Noble Born, now Bevric Noble. Updated benefits: no change.

Pioneer, now Borderland Pioneer. Updated benefits: You gain a +1 trait bonus to Handle Animal, Knowledge (nature) and Survival, and one of these (your choice) becomes a class skill.

Cartographer’s Apprentice (new campaign trait): Maps and the great outdoors has always interested you. You have combined your interests and spent the last several years walking the breath of Brevor in the apprenticeship of a master cartographer. You are now ready to practice your trade and an expedition into the uncharted Stolen Lands seems like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. You gain a +1 trait bonus on Craft (map), Knowledge (geography), and Survival, and one of these (your choice) becomes a class skill.

Rostlander. No changes.

Sword Scion. Updated benefits: You begin play with an Aldori dueling sword. You treat Aldori dueling swords as martial weapons rather than exotic weapons for the purpose of proficiency, and gain a +1 trait bonus on all attacks and combat maneuvers made with such weapons.


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willfromamerica wrote:
Might be good to make threads for each "book" so the questions in each can be more focused? I'm not sure if the new version of the AP is broken out by the original book they were a part of, though.

I think it would be cleaner to ask for a GM Reference sub-folder. In that folder have a sticky thread dedicated to each chapter, in order. That would keep the main Kingmaker 2nd Ed. folder cleaner and require less scrolling through all the sticky threads to get to the new ones.

Just My Thoughts.


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Ed Reppert wrote:
Hm. When will we be able to order it? Before street date, I hope. The way my subs are set up I probably won't get this until November anyway, but I'd like not to be the guy who tries to order and finds "sorry, out of stock". :-)

I'm making an educated guess here:

Jim Butler posted that they would be releasing the Kingmaker Player's Guide near the end of September. I expect there will be a big blog post announcing the release of the Kingmaker AP. At that time, I expect the Paizo store webpages to go live and you will be able to order from Paizo.

That said, I have already preordered several items that are not in my backer package from Miniature Market. However, MM is already out of stock on most of the Kingmaker 2E preorder items.


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Signing up for the Special online. So why is there an up-charge for the online special? ($8 vs $4 for a ticket). I know that the when I've played the special in-person, the higher price appears to offset the promotional miniature that everyone gets. Are there other bonuses for playing the special online this year?


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Lewy wrote:
Ok, I've searched this thread, the faq's and the subscription notices. I must be missing it but I have tried. Please would someone confirm if the fans like myself who've been here since the start and spend loads still get to keep their grandfathered advantage discount? Because, if not, then it's time for me to head off.

From farther up the thread:

Aaron Shanks wrote:
RobertTHEPerylous wrote:

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And will Legacy Subscribers to the Adventure Path still get the Advantage discount?

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I have am not aware of any changes to Legacy Subscribers.


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Looked at the lineup on Warhorn. It looks like a good selection. However I wish there was a single filter for online vs. in-person. Or Online Game, PBP, and Physical Game. There are around 30 filter check boxes for online, if I try it.

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It seem with second edition that the rules are much tighter and it should be easier to write scenarios because the authors have a better idea what the skill range will be for the PCs. A third level PC is going to have a maximum bonus of +11 (+3 level, max +4 stat, +4 proficiency), and more likely a +8 (+3 level, +3 stat, +2 proficiency). That three point range is a lot tighter than I've seen in 1E.

As to what tiers to offer, to me, offering the beginner range 1-2 doesn't make a lot of sense at the expenses of higher tiers. A walk in or new player don't have time to make a PC on the spot and can pick up a level 3 pregen just as easily as a level 1. Playing a level 3 will probably give them a better feel for the game and they'll have a little more fun because their PC can do more.

An overall range of 3-8 seems seem a better fit for what appears to be about the same amount of work.


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Well, Pathfinder 1E isn't dead yet. Over 4,000 bundles sold with ten days to go.

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I have to wonder if Paizo didn't miss the mark with the level choices for the PFS special. From my perspective, it doesn't seems much different to develop say a 3-8 range instead of a 1-6. New players can use a level 3 pregen and get a much better feel for character abilities and the game than using a level one. Veteran players can play a slightly higher level PC. Also, I've heard, at least in 1e, that level 7-9 is a sweet spot for PCs.


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Vala the White-Haired Witch wrote:
For some PDFs that we already own, is there any way to get a separate code to gift to a friend? Or are those PDFs effectively wasted?

Maybe. It depends on what books you have and need.

If you support at the $25 level, you will get three codes.
A code for the $5 bundle (7 PDFs)
A code for the $15 bundle (12 PDFs not in the $5 bundle)
A code for the $25 bundle (20 PDFs not in the $5 or $15 bundles)

So, you can share codes for specific bundle levels, but not specific books.


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This is an awesome bundle!

Great theme. Great books. I have several of the physical copies and I'm going to add these PDF to my library.

This Blog wrote:
Plus, you choose how much of your purchase supports the National Coalition Against Censorship or the charity of your choice!

I can't find this option on the Humble Bundle Page.

Humble Bundle wrote:
NOTE: Some bundles do not have this feature enabled.

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gencon.com/indy wrote:
At Gen Con Indy 2022, we anticipate that all in-person participants will be required to show proof of a full course of vaccination against COVID-19 to attend the convention, and that mask-wearing will be required in all indoor spaces.


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AceofMoxen wrote:
Today is a good day to... halp wrote:
There's also a Humble Bundle Fantasy Grounds and PF software bundle available too- and if ya donate to both [at the highest level?], ye can get Humble Store credit too. ;)
I have no interest in fantasy grounds, but I would like those PDFs at this price. Do I get the PDFs on Paizo with this bundle?

I don't know if it is true for this Humble Bundle, but I found this blog about Starfinder on Fantasy Grounds:

Paizo Blog wrote:

If you don't already own the PDF, buying the Fantasy Grounds version allows you to sync that purchase back to paizo.com to get a free PDF added to your account there.

Link Here

And this blog as well:

Quote:

Be sure to sync your Paizo and Fantasy Grounds accounts to get the PDF added to your Paizo account as part of the purchase or to get the entire cost of the PDF as a discount on your purchase at fantasygrounds.com!

Link Here

The bummer is that I just bought Kingmaker AP #1 Stolen Grounds two weeks ago with the Paizo pdf black Friday sale. I could have gotten it and a lot more for just a few dollars more.


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Oldwolf1600 wrote:
Contributed over $50 through the Humble Bundle email link. However, less than half the material showed up on my downloads page. I did not get the Adventure Paths, map packs, pawns, and much more. What can I do?

I have supported HB in the past. Generally, there are multiple codes you need to enter, one for each level ($5, $15, $30 and $50).


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The Blog has arrived!

Blog wrote:

Grab Black Friday through Cyber Monday deals at paizo.com with 25% off your favorite digital products! From now until midnight Pacific time on Monday, November 29, you can save 25% on all Paizo digital products. The sale is not valid on products from licensed or compatible publishers, subscriptions, or e-tickets.[/blog]


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Aaron Shanks wrote:
There will be a sale, yes. The blog is written and will go live at 12:01 AM 11/25/21.

Looks like there are website issues again. Currently it's 6:11 AM on 11/25/2021 and no blog is up. Looking forward to the sale.

Just for fun I looked at a time zone map. It's currently Thursday everywhere! In just under an hour it will be Friday somewhere in the Pacific.


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Arkham Joker wrote:
What do you mean by "doing divine casting well"? If all you mean is healing and condition removing then that isn't doing it well! What exactly do you mean?

I don't know. I've never played a cleric, druid, or oracle. I've seen others play clerics, obviously, but for the most part, they have been healbots. Through playing, I want to dive in and learn more about the class.

I'm really liking Guided Hand. Wow, that's just awesome!


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MrCharisma wrote:
How about another question to get things moving again: What are some good domains for a front-line Cleric?

I'm currently liking Trade and Heroism. My cleric is pursuing an ideal (fair, safe and free trade ???? - still working on that), not a specific deity.


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Melkiador wrote:
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Weapon Familiarity: Dwarves are proficient with battleaxes, heavy picks, and warhammers, and treat any weapon with the word “dwarven” in its name as a martial weapon.

Arrgggggggg too little sleep!


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First, thanks to everyone for your ideas. It's given me lots to consider.

MrCharisma wrote:

Ok, we've had a good robust discussion about what the Cleric can and can't do, but I think we (including myself) have kind-of left the Swiftbrook's request behind. Here's everything they said about what they want:

So what Swiftbrook wants is to be:

- A Dwarf

YES

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- A frontline melee/tank character, preferably using a hammer/earthbreaker

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- A divine caster, preferably a 9th level caster

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- A channel-capable character (though this could possibly mean "healing"-capable?)

YES Channeling is something I want to try out. I'm not planning on taking many, if any, channeling feats, but I am considering selective channeling.

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- a team-player, preferably using a teamwork feat with the party Hunter (doesn't need to have any class abilities around Teamwork feats...

Teamwork feats are more of a dream that I've left behind. From what I've read so far, there are much better uses of my feats.

Another thing I have thought about, because everyone seem to say I should take Heavy Armor Proficiency, I was looking at a build without it, just to be different. Kind of like a non-CHA dump dwarf. Now I'm not dropping more than a few points in CHA. I'm looking more at fun with this build. I've never played a cleric before. I still remember the game when my -2 CHA dwarf fighter was the face for the party. Oh what fun!

As for my hammer, it looks like I need a patron such as Torag to get proficiency with the warhammer. Maybe even a large one. Spending an extra feat for weapon proficiency isn't worth it. On the other hand, I've played a character once that used a large light crossbow and took the -2 penalty. Lots of fun.


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MrCharisma wrote:

Aside from "front line tank/basher" and obviously some divine magic do you have anything specific in mind for this character?

I'm looking at being a full caster. I'm willing to take a one level hit. Since I will be the party's primary divine caster, I'm interested in doing it well. Also, I'm looking at channeling and at some point swift channel so I can still attack every round.

I'm thinking about a hammer of some type for my primary weapon. Hammer and shield or Earth Breaker. I haven't quite looked that far yet. If I can afford it (I doubt it), I'll take a teamwork feat so I can pair up with the Hunter and his pet.

I'm also thinking about taking Weapon Focus as my fighter bonus feat.


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I'm building the front line tank/basher for a party of four starting the Kingmaker AP. We have a Elvin Curve Blade wielding Hunter, Archer (class TBD), and Arcanist. I'm looking at playing a dwarf.

I've been looking at Cleric, Cleric with archetype, War Priest and Paladin. Then I started thinking, would a Cleric X/Fighter 1 be better than all the rest? If I take one level of Fighter as either my first or second level, I'm only one level behind in my full casting (similar to the Oracle), but I get +2 to my Fort save, heavy armor proficiency, tower shield proficiency if I want to use it, a +1 to my BAB and a bonus feat.

So, is a Cleric X/Fighter 1 better than the others?


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blog wrote:
Tune in to our Gen Con 2021 streams for more information on the new classes (and the book they’ll be appearing in), and be the first to play them in just under 2 weeks! We hope to see you there!

I think this blog when live three weeks early, or needs some editing. :-)


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It looks like this bundle has been extended another week. I say the final total page on 8/19 but now it is again accepting contributions and shows six more days.


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I think I see what I'm missing.

PBS is an action. You enter the PBS Stance. Then the line "While you are in this stance" . . . .

That's what I missed.


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If you contribute to the $50 level and get the physical Beginner Box and Pack Worlds, can you add other items to your Paizo order to save on shipping?


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Marco Massoudi wrote:

It looks like the two sides pictured in the middle connect.

Are they on two different mats?

This set looks all-around great - thanks for making this!

I did some copy and pasting. The two middle ones almost line up, but not quite. The canal lines up, but the house and tower at the top are off by one square.

Also, the 4th map almost lines up with the second map. Place the 4th above the 2nd and everything but the stairway lines up.

Just like the potential alignment of these maps, this project just missed the mark for me.


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Blave wrote:

We're at 19671 bundels right now, with an average of €21.26 paid per bundle. I live in europe and have no idea how to switch the displayed currency to USD. For the record, the big pdf-bundle is €18 and the complete bundle with the physical CRB is €26.50.

The top 9 participants have paid between 100 and 200 USD, pulling this average up a bit. There's most likely also many people curious but not dedicated, who only get the first bundle for €4.50 to get the CRB pdf.

All things considered, I'd estimate that we're at MAYBE 5000 physical CRB copies going out from paizo via this bundle. Probably quite a bit less since the shipping costs are quite high outside of the US.

Just for fun, from a cooped up math teacher who hasn’t been able to teach in six months, let's run some numbers . . . . Math in USD

As of right now, 21,650 bundles have been sold for $524,282.50, with an average of $24.22.

With an average price of $24.22, and because the bundle is a just so good with such a new product, I'm making the assumption that people are only buying $20 or $30 bundles. To make the math work, I need to make some assumptions.

So, to the math:

Subtract $4,282.50 for the "over the top" donations we have $520,000 in sales.

So let P represent the Physical 2nd ed CRB, then 21,650 - P is the number of bundles sold without a physical book.

Then our equation is $30 • P + $20 • (21,650 - P) = $520,000

Simplifying
30P + 433,000 - 20P = 520,000
10P = 87,000
P = 8,700

So, around 8,700 physical copies of the Pathfinder 2nd edition Core Rule Book have been sold. So about 40% of all bundles sold include a physical CRB.

Also, assuming most people don’t change the “Choose where your money goes” settings, then the breakdown of the giving is:
Paizo $314,469.50 (60%)
Charity: $78,642.38 (15%)
Humble Tip: $131,070.63 (25%)

There are several assumptions here and we will never see the actual data but it's fun to speculate and run the numbers.

Just My Thought


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Is there any way to get back to calendar view in Warhorn for PaizoCon Online? I'm stuck in Agenda view and I have to keep scrolling down and press the [Load More Scenarios] button. It takes forever and a day to get to Wednesday, worse for Thursday, etc.


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Ageron wrote:
Jim Butler wrote:
DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
Just added a bunch of add ons, I think that unlocked the next level though I don't know if that makes a difference in the late pledge stage.

There aren't any unlocks during the Late Pledge campaign, as we did all the unlocks during the initial launch campaign.

-Jim

Understandable, since planning, assignments, etc. would be based off the achieved stretch goals at the actual campaign close. But still kinda sad that some goals would have otherwise been met.

I am looking forward to this so much!

FYI . . .

From this thread Kingmaker Late Pledge Campaign

Mark Moreland wrote:

To head off any confusion, because we were so close to unlocking the Ekundayo level-up when the campaign ended, and because we knew we'd have this late pledge window to push us over that last hurdle, we went ahead and unlocked it for the final book!

Yay!"

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Any idea if Origins & GenCon GMs will still be getting "Store Credit" or Vouchers?

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