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nicholas storm wrote: 1) I dislike a system where creatures are built arbitrarily different from pcs. Level 0 creatures should not have +6 to hit, when their stats should not allow them to. This "feature" breaks my immersion with the system. Why even have statistics, if bonuses are arbitrarily assigned. Creatures are different from PCs. Of course the rules for them ought to be different. I would find a system that treated monsters as just another sort of PC to be immersion breaking.
Ah Frencois, I must take you to task for anglicizing Jeanne D'Arc's name. Ste. Jeanne D'Arc, actually. Anglo-Saxons spell damoiselle, damsel too, for some reason. Why Knight instead of Cavalier (chevalier) I cannot say.
Hench-man is no more troubling a word than, oh say, wo-man. The -man suffix simply means, in this context, and has historically meant, person, or human. Woman was wifman, female person. Somewhere along the way Anglophones dropped the root from the word for male person, werman. They did keep werewolf (loup-garou) and weregild.
Frencois wrote: When I was "a bit" younger we played games like "Call of Cthulhu" or "Rêve de Dragon" (a bit of Frenchy advertising doesn't hurt) Il faut que je pose la question: Les dragons android, rêvent-ils de manger des moutons électriques?
My group played through S&S with some of the early character deck characters, Amaryllis, Melindra and Zarlova. We had to avoid combat quite a bit, and make use of other techniques-- lots of scrying and augury. It made for a different sort of play experience.
The game could certainly benefit from other paths, alternate ways to winning apart from combat. A more 'old school' style.
I know you said no spoilers but,
"BE SURE TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE"
Seriously, Mike, seriously? ;)
Adlermond? Nein. Habichtmond zwei-sechs-neun.
How does this rare uncommon common thing work out? I never liked the idea of blind boosters, so I think buying them as singles will be the way to go.
I'm old school. I use Game Science dice, sometimes even the old d20s that were marked 0-9 twice-- so they can be d10s as well . We generally play 2 characters each. And use 2 sets per character, so 4 sets.
Two years ago (give or take a couple of weeks) I was awaiting delivery of my copy of PACG RoTR, which I ordered after hearing all the good buzz it received at GenCon, and seeing it on the Hotness List at BGG. Don't regret that order, not one bit :) Hours and hours of fun with this game.
Great news. S&S PACG is going to be a blast to play. Why does the last updated notice read August 13, 2013 instead of August 13, 2014?
Have a great time a GenCon, Paizo folks. :)
Ah, thanks for that Vic. I'll just wait for news that they have shipped.
@Hawkmoon: Mine is a pre-order, placed on Feb 19. I know better than to wait too long on these things.
Meanwhile, I note that Amazon has changed their shipping date for AD5 from April 30 to May 13. Ugh.
Vic Wertz wrote: teknoide wrote: Yep and you can share with another character with the divine trait with the other restoration and staff of minor healing with a merchant ally to give him the robe of runes. Off course, he can bring the robe back to your hand with the other merchant ally.
You got two character playing with their full hand.
...and with no cards whatsoever in their deck, meaning if they take *any* damage they can't prevent, they are dead.
It's theoretical until you tell me you've run a few scenarios actually living on that edge without dying. Sooner or later, they'll get 'ghouled'-- or it's equivalent-- and its back to Brigandoom. The one thing I've noted is that the location decks can deal nasty bane surprises when you least expect them.
What a very nice offering for everybody. Thanks guys, these are great! Now, any recommendations for printing? Paper weight, etc? And just wondering, why no back for the cards? Matching color with the pre-printed ones would be too difficult, given the huge variety of printers and inks out there?
How many people are going to make an ally card of one of their pets? :)
Sounds right. You did discard the boons and shuffle the banes back into the deck? I think this is to represent the 'destruction' the giants inflict on Sandpoint.
It would still make a nice thread in the House Rules/Home Brews sub-forum.
Dwarves always land on their feet. They're like cats that way ;) And he's glad to be out of the kindergarten. All those kids tugging his beard...
Really, job one for Harsk is to shoot things, either directly or in support. Job two is to scout the deck and set up the other characters. At least that is how he has worked out in our group. He also brings a nice constitution-- best in the game--to the party, and there are enough Constitution checks out there that he uses it. The perception and survival skills are nice too. Harsk is solid, but not flashy. He wears the snakeskin tunic surprisingly well though.
Merisiel is good as a soloist; she goes off to sort through locations on her own. She is also pure dexterity. Specialized, perhaps overly so in the long run. A fishmonger though? Hmmm. I would have though small business owner... a pawn shop perhaps?
There is no reason you cannot play both.
Awww, you guys aren't using the 'nice dice'? Now, back in the day the d20 (from Game Science) was marked 0-9 twice. (There were no d10s)and we had to roll them uphill, in driving snow... and we loved it ;) Perhaps the 'evolution' of the polyhedral set is responsible for the differing fonts.
The koplow d20 is a close enough fit then. Good luck in your search Arikiel.
Character Name: Kyra
Role Card: Exorcist
Skill Feats: strength +2, wisdom +2.
Power Feats: weapons, instead of first exploration...reveal card w/divine 1d4+2, add 1d8+1 to defeat undead, defeat undead shuffle random card from discard pile into deck
Card Feats: spell +1, item +1, ally +1
Weapons: Icy Longspear, Impaler of Thorns
Spells: Augury, Holy Light, Major Cure, Swipe
Armors: Magic Studded Leather, Shield of Fire Resistance
Items: Medusa Mask, Sihedron Medallion
Allies: Cat, Monkey
Blessings: Abadar, Gorum, Irori, Lamashtu, Sarenrae, Shelyn
Hunh. Never heard of that happening before. Couldn't you just have saved the GIMP files (.xcf) as photoshop files (.psd) using the 'export as' function? Anyway, that is why backups are a must. Sorry about what happened to you guys though. Adobe software :P
I sleeved the pages in those sheet protectors-- the ones that have holes for putting them into a binder--that you can get at your local office supply store.
You can use GIMP- a free image editor- to import the PDF files of the character sheets that Paizo distributes, then cut and paste and scale up the relevant sections, and 'erase' the rest. Not much learning required.
I did this to create some 8.5"x11" sheets with enlarged text (presbyopia, a common affliction among us grognards) and a space for the deck and discards. The decklists can be printed on the back.
I'm not sure about whether they are in line with the community use policy, so I am hesitant to post them at BGG.
The dice are from Koplow*. I do not think the d20s are normally sold individually. You probably need get a set -- regular sized, not jumbo-- or a bag of assorted color d20s. However, Amazon sells 2 packs of d20s. They don't seem to have them here though, on Paizo.
*as opposed to Chessex or Game Science. Just in case you did not know.
I second the "YAY!" I am glad to hear the printing is in the USA now. Also, that you're on a 2nd printing. Did you guys expect this kind of success this fast?
Hawkmoon269 wrote: I think some of the ones backordered from Paizo's site are available here. I see Harks for example:
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/pathfinder%20iconic/latest/page2
Yes, They have all of the Iconics for PACG, some in the bones material (cheap but meh, game piece worthy at best) and all in pewter. Very good quality minis from what I've seen. There are several places from which to order them. As with all pewter/white metal minis though, clean them, remove the mold lines etc, and of course, at least prime them (white I recommend), so you don't touch bare metal.
Supplemental Adventure Decks, perhaps with all manner of variations on the victory conditions, "like Here Comes the Flood"?
You could get the pewter or bones miniatures from Reaper to use instead of the cards for your characters... but they will need painting.
And yes, that is what I've been doing. So far, Lini, Merisiel, Valeros, Seoni and Harsk. Now, I just need to find time to paint them...
Seriously, it must feel nice to have hit one so far out of the park. Congratulations.. and now get back to work. We do want more, you know ;)
Wow, thank you Hawkmoon. I love detailed answers :) I'll check out the BGG stuff. Although, to be honest, there was a part of me that was hoping otherwise.
And I just noticed one can upvote posts. Have a +1 :)
I was under the impression that you had to actually close the location or encounter and defeat a villain at a location in order to banish the cards there. Just curious, where is the rule/FAQ/Errata that supports the banish cards left in locations when the scenario ends? I thought that they went back into the box.
I was actually happy to perma-banish the shopkeeper's daughter during Hook Mountain (Lini's work) because she certainly slows down Valeros ;) and pretty much everybody else. I reckon she got washed away in the flood, or 'et' by the Magga. Either way, good riddance. And to the Burglar too :)
A wiki is a very useful solution, especially as more cards come out. I would certainly like to see it. I've grown accustomed to using them for some other games.
You can add the character add on pack right away. For the adventure decks, you add them when you start the adventure, so in the case of skinsaw, you would add those cards after you've played through burnt offerings, and perils of the lost coast.
You'll have a lot of fun with this game.
Kyra likes a soft target once in a while. She'll miss the Siren ;) and the Skeletons and Zombies...
Reaper Minis do have many of the Pathfinder Iconics available through their 'Bones' collection (it's a softish plastic), and they have all of them available as pewter. You'll have to prime and paint them yourself though, if you get these. I have a few. The pewter are nice but run $5-7$ or so, but the Bones are cheap a few dollars each. They make decent enough game pieces. Here is the link on this web site http://paizo.com/store/byCompany/r/reaperMiniatures/byProductType/miniature s/pathfinder/bones
Since I do a lot of tabletop gaming, I am getting the pewter since it is what I'm familiar with. And I like painting minis.
The answer to your final question is, 'No.' But you already knew that ;)
That is one of the nice things about this game. If you want to spend a little extra time on it, you will be rewarded. I suppose you could also sort through some of the other cards, like barriers for example, and remove some to maintain the theme. Or even do the same with some allies.
We've been using the built-in lazy Susan on the dining room table and it works very well indeed :). The things to remember are don't leave your cards on it when you spin it around for the next player, and don't spin it quickly.
All our LCGs are played this way these days. It is the nicest way.
The PDF solution is the one I like best. How will we be notified when/if the PDF becomes available? Will it appear on the PACG page like the FAQ link?
Oh, and yay, Skinsaw murders out now :) Can't wait to get it in hand. This game has proved a lot of fun.
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