December 2021 New Releases and Subscription Shipping


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The following information, including dates and expected products, is what we currently estimate and may change.

New Physical Product Releases in December
•Paizo Subscription Products•

Pathfinder Products
•Pathfinder Adventure Path: Pathfinder Adventure Path #174: Shadows of the Ancients (Strength of Thousands 6 of 6) TBD, likely January 2022
•Pathfinder Maps:
•Pathfinder Lost Omens: Pathfinder Lost Omens: Absalom, City of Lost Omens AND
Pathfinder Lost Omens: Monsters of Myth
•Pathfinder Rulebooks:
•Pathfinder Special Edition Rulebooks:
•Pathfinder Adventures:
•Pathfinder Accessories: Pathfinder Alchemy Deck - January 2022
Pathfinder Spell Cards: Secrets of Magic TBD, likely January 2022
•Pathfinder Pawns:

Starfinder Products
•Starfinder Adventure Path: Starfinder Adventure Path #43: Icebound (Horizons of the Vast 4 of 6) TBD, likely January 2022
•Starfinder Roleplaying Game: Starfinder Galactic Magic January 2022
•Starfinder Accessories: Starfinder Alien Archive 1 & 2 Battle Cards - February 2022
Starfinder Spell Cards TBD, likely January 2022
•Starfinder Maps: Starfinder Flip-Tiles: Space Station Corridors Expansion TBD, likely January 2022

•Non-subscription Paizo Products•
Pathfinder Flip-Mat Classics: Tavern Multi-Pack
Pathfinder Goblin Firework Fight - February 2022

UPDATED 12/06/2021
•Authorization (Order Spawning) Date: Monday, December 6th
•Begin Shipping Estimate: Tuesday, December 7th
•End Shipping Estimate: TBD
•Street Date for Paizo Products: Wednesday, December 22nd

Most recent update is located here.

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Paizo Employee Customer Service Representative

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Copy/paste from November's thread + an addition:
This schedule and list of products is very tentative at the moment due to how unpredictable shipping currently is (and the holidays aren't likely to impact that in a positive way). Please note that the shipping window dates fall on the same week as Thanksgiving (US), which may also increase shipping times due to Paizo being closed on Thursday, November 25th and Friday, November 26th.

Customer Service Representative

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I'm just going to pop in and give some love to Raychael here, and ask that everyone just be nice to each other. It has been a rough month and, while we are doing our best for our customers, we just don't have enough eyeballs to keep watch everywhere. You are always welcome to email us in CS, and remember to be excellent to each other!

Paizo Employee Customer Service Representative

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Hey folks, just a couple updates for December!

Release date was pushed out a week so the following dates are now applicable:

•Authorization (Order Spawning) Date: TBD (working out the optimal day to do order generation so that we can address any issues prior to shipping beginning)
•Begin Shipping Estimate: Tuesday, November 30th
•End Shipping Estimate: Friday, December 10th
•Street Date for Paizo Products: Wednesday, December 15th

There's also a few items added and removed for December:

Moved:
Pathfinder Alchemy Deck - January 2022
Pathfinder Goblin Firework Fight - February 2022
Starfinder Alien Archive 1 & 2 Battle Cards - February 2022

Added:
Pathfinder Spell Cards: Secrets of Magic
Starfinder Spell Cards

Paizo Employee Customer Service Representative

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Another (tiny) update for December:

•Authorization (Order Spawning) Date: Thursday, November 18th Wednesday, November 24th - This is the Wednesday before US Thanksgiving, it's possible this date could change, but I'll let you all know as soon as I can if it does!

Moved:
Starfinder Galactic Magic - January 2022

I'm not expecting any other product changes for December, but never say never, so I'll continue to update if anything changes between now and then!

Paizo Employee Customer Service Representative

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Okay, hopefully final update on dates!

•Authorization (Order Spawning) Date: Monday, November 29th

There's a very quick turnaround from order generation to shipping due to Thanksgiving (US), but we'll be sending out an email ASAP to those of you subscribed to the above subscription lines. Please ensure that your default address and payment options are correct before order generation, if possible!

Obviously, we'll do our best to ensure that things are fixed before shipping, but checking the above will cut down on potential problems.

Grand Lodge

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Huzzah!


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Hopefully minimal hitches and that hard-working Paizo staff get some real time off for the holidays. Excited for these books, too!


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Damn, Galactic Magic was the book I was most excited about.

All good though, these things happen!


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captain yesterday wrote:

Damn, Galactic Magic was the book I was most excited about.

All good though, these things happen!

Me too, but it will be a pleasant way to start the year instead.


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Hm. So December's subs are going to be (mostly) shipped (and billed) in December? Good! :-)


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Maps, Rulebook Subscriber

Sorry if I missed the announcement elsewhere, but did the price increase on the "Absolam, City of Lost Omens book?" It looks like the MSRP price is $54.99. I see the Guns & Gear book had a $49.99 MSRP, the same as the other bigger books. I'm guessing the price increased (though I don't see a similar increase for "Lost Omens: Monsters of Myth."


I'm pretty sure this book is the largest one they've put out since the CRB. Pricing seems pretty rational to me.


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Pigraven wrote:
Sorry if I missed the announcement elsewhere, but did the price increase on the "Absolam, City of Lost Omens book?" It looks like the MSRP price is $54.99. I see the Guns & Gear book had a $49.99 MSRP, the same as the other bigger books. I'm guessing the price increased (though I don't see a similar increase for "Lost Omens: Monsters of Myth."

Absolom book is 40 pages bigger. $5 more for a book thats ~15% bigger seems reasonable

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Pigraven wrote:
Sorry if I missed the announcement elsewhere, but did the price increase on the "Absolam, City of Lost Omens book?" It looks like the MSRP price is $54.99. I see the Guns & Gear book had a $49.99 MSRP, the same as the other bigger books. I'm guessing the price increased (though I don't see a similar increase for "Lost Omens: Monsters of Myth."

I'm not privy to pricing discussions or the like, BUT Absalom is a little less than twice the size of Guns & Gears, page count-wise (looking at both PDFs), if that helps!

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Removed a snarky post about pricing. Critiques of both Paizo and potential price changes is absolutely fine, but the post was off-topic and didn't contribute to the subscription thread. Let's keep discussions in this thread specifically about subscription order generation and product/delays/problems/etc., please!


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Raychael wrote:
Pigraven wrote:
Sorry if I missed the announcement elsewhere, but did the price increase on the "Absolam, City of Lost Omens book?" It looks like the MSRP price is $54.99. I see the Guns & Gear book had a $49.99 MSRP, the same as the other bigger books. I'm guessing the price increased (though I don't see a similar increase for "Lost Omens: Monsters of Myth."
I'm not privy to pricing discussions or the like, BUT Absalom is a little less than twice the size of Guns & Gears, page count-wise (looking at both PDFs), if that helps!

Thank you for this information, Raychael. Can you please direct me to the person that can answer such a question or at least pass it along?

Perhaps I gave the impression I was complaining about the price increase. I wasn't. Prices are going up on everything everywhere, so it stands to reason they would on these books, too. I'm simply seeking if the increase in price is directly related to the start of future increases, or whether it's a one-off price bump for this book (presumably for a size increase). I have no problem with a price increase, regardless of the reason. But the reason itself MIGHT have an impact how I obtain my Pathfinder 2e books going forward. I'll explain..

When Absalom was first announced way back when, it was available for pre-order through multiple retailers with an MSRP showing $49.99. It remains at that MSRP level still for many retailers. If the MSRP price has increased because the size of the book increased, great, I have zero issue with that, and I can continue on with my Paizo subscriptions as normal. If the reason for the increase is that it's the beginning of a price increase for Paizo books going forward, then I might have to reconsider my subscriptions and pick them up at another retailer. That's because the price for all future Pathfinder 2e books currently available for pre-order on many sites still tops off with a $49.99 MSRP. So at the moment, if the increase in books via Paizo is permanent, it looks like the discrepancy between what I pay here and the amount I could save thanks to certain retailer discounts elsewhere increases even more.

At the moment, Paizo prices always put me behind about $5 per book vs certain retailers, despite my 15% discount here. That doesn't even account for shipping & handling, which is often free elsewhere with bulk purchases. To this date I've been okay with that. And given the recent company promises to do better by its staff and creators, I'm hopeful to continue, so that more folks see more of that money. But if all future Paizo books see a $5 increase on this site, but other retailers are still working off a lower MSRP when giving discounts, that only widens the gap of what I'm paying per book by keeping my subscriptions here. I'll at least have to consider whether it makes more sense for me to start buying my Paizo books elsewhere.


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I was all excited because I thought my subs had shipped because I got a shipping notification from Paizo. But it turned out to be the Gods and Magic puzzle I'd ordered. Now I'm even more excited!

It's going to be a great Thanksgiving weekend!!

Silver Crusade

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It's doubled in size since the book was first announced. That's part of why it's so much later than it was planned. This book is massive.


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Cori Marie wrote:
It's doubled in size since the book was first announced. That's part of why it's so much later than it was planned. This book is massive.

I have both The Slumbering Tsar and the Legendary Planets AP. Those books are massive! Pathfinder's largest book is merely large in comparison.

But yes, your point stands, it's going to be big by Paizo standards!

Silver Crusade

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402 pages to be exact, so about 100 pages more than Mwangi Expanse which was $49.99. 100 pages for $5 is pretty good.


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Cori Marie wrote:
402 pages to be exact, so about 100 pages more than Mwangi Expanse which was $49.99. 100 pages for $5 is pretty good.

No doubt. I've read up on it throughout the day and it is my understanding that a very large portion of the book is lore, which makes it even better. I feel like Paizo does a great job handling their lore, and I really enjoy reading through these types of books.


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Pigraven wrote:
Cori Marie wrote:
402 pages to be exact, so about 100 pages more than Mwangi Expanse which was $49.99. 100 pages for $5 is pretty good.
No doubt. I've read up on it throughout the day and it is my understanding that a very large portion of the book is lore, which makes it even better. I feel like Paizo does a great job handling their lore, and I really enjoy reading through these types of books.

In fact, there are only a few pages that are not lore: according to Aaron Shanks, the only rule content is the Azarketi ancestry, a few Azarketi weapons and NPCs and some new drugs,

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Hey everyone! Update regarding subscriptions for this month (we'll also get an email together to send out to everyone ASAP, since not everyone reads these threads)! Unfortunately, we have some products still stuck in ports (likely due to a combination of continuing shipping issues, holidays, and COVID), so we're going to be pushing the release date out by a week, and, subsequently, the order generation and fulfillment dates.

Apologies for the delay! We were hoping we'd get the rest of our products this week, but since that doesn't look to be the case, moving it out looks to be the best option.

New dates are currently as follows:

•Authorization (Order Spawning) Date: Friday, December 3rd
•Begin Shipping Estimate: Monday, December 6th
•End Shipping Estimate: Friday, December 17th
•Street Date for Paizo Products: Wednesday, December 22nd

Dates are still a little tentative and might change by a day or two, depending on business needs, but if you have any questions, please let me know!


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Maps, Rulebook Subscriber

Just curious whether y'all received the rest of your products or not, or perhaps the situation is still pending?

I've got subscriptions here for my books, but once I know the Spell Cards and Maps are confirmed I can lump some pre-orders together elsewhere.


So probably not getting for Christmas?


Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
So probably not getting for Christmas?

Depends on what products you're waiting on. Most of them seem on time and likely to deliver around Christmas.


Is there an updated list as to what is and what is not in the warehouse?

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Pigraven wrote:

Just curious whether y'all received the rest of your products or not, or perhaps the situation is still pending?

I've got subscriptions here for my books, but once I know the Spell Cards and Maps are confirmed I can lump some pre-orders together elsewhere.

I'm hoping to have a more permanent answer for everyone sometime today, once the powers-that-be make decisions based on what we've received and what we haven't! We're just waiting on the aforementioned information so that we have a firm update that we can also email to subscribers.

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
So probably not getting for Christmas?

The dates above are still in line with domestic shipping cut-off dates for Christmas (international is always a weird one at the best of times), which we're definitely going to be trying for!


Does that include the extra 3-5 days that packages are expected to take now for the holidays?


Happy the Lost Omens volumes are on track! Really nervous about the Strength of Thousands book though. That one being delayed a month would be a pretty gnarly tangle for me at least. Crossing fingers!

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Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Does that include the extra 3-5 days that packages are expected to take now for the holidays?

Currently, we're working within USPS's domestic holiday cut-off dates located here and the current plan is to get subscriptions shipped by the cut-off dates!

We sent an email out to all subscribers earlier, but I'm also going to post it here for information:

"Due to ongoing port delays, the fulfillment window and product mix for the December releases is in flux, but we expect to generate subscription orders early next week and begin shipping subs out soon after that.

The products guaranteed for December release are Lost Omens: City of Absalom and Lost Omens: Monsters of Myth. We are hoping Pathfinder Adventure Path #174: Shadows of the Ancients, Pathfinder Spell Cards: Secrets of Magic, Starfinder Adventure Path #43: Icebound, Starfinder Spell Cards, and Starfinder Flip-Tiles: Space Station Corridors Expansion will be included as well, but they may need to wait until January 2022."

Order generation date is set for Monday, December 6th right now and we'll continue to update as things progress and/or change!


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

It looks like my November subscription order never spawned. Will you please add Pathfinder Adventure Path #173: Doorway to the Red Star (Strength of Thousands 5 of 6) to my December sub order?


Is today the day?


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

It looks like my October / November subscriptions were charged but never sent out.

I began my subscription on October 30th with Secrets of Magic, Mwangi Expanse, Night of the Gray Death, and #173: Doorway to the Red Star, but have not had any of these items (or the following items) added to my digital products nor have I received any notifications of any shipments. I also tried to reach out to customer.service@paizo.com on November 23rd but have not had a response yet.

Any help in resolving the situation would be greatly appreciated!

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Working on getting the auth started right now!

As a note, no luck getting more products in, so the only releases for December are Lost Omens: City of Absalom and Lost Omens: Monsters of Myth. APs, maps, and accessories are still stuck in a cargo container, unfortunately!

As of right now, we'll be moving the rest of the products over to January. Apologies for the inconvenience! We're just as frustrated by this as anyone else!


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As much as I'd like to see everything this month...this makes the hit to my wallet a little easier to take in the ramp up to the holidays ;)

Thanks for keeping us in the loop.

Grand Lodge

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Huzzah, authorization notice!


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Got mine, too. And now the watch begins.


Looking forward to reading about the mosquito witch!


can't wait to see fafnhiers statblock &death curse!


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Woo Hoo, got my Auth e-mail! Too bad about the AP's but my wallet feels better. I think we've got some container gremlins we need to eradicate. LOL


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Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Word is that shipping has started! Here we go again.
Thanks CS!


Hyped!

Silver Crusade

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Got my shipment email!


Nothing yet but for the past year I have tended to be towards the end of the cycle.


Pathfinder Maps, Pathfinder Accessories, Starfinder Society Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber

Shipping notice! Looks like I’m near the front of the queue this month. Will be nice to have something to read on the plane home this afternoon :)


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My watch continues.

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