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There's nothing particularly special about stacking archetypes, one archetype that changes a lot can be more different from the base class than two or three cosmetic changes IMO. But OK, looking at a few:

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Edit: You might like a thread where Tacticslion investigates how many class features you can replace via archetypes.

No.Divine tracker and hooded champion replace wild empathy -(

Chu Ye Enforcer Vigilante, can launch a beam of fire from the eye as a ranged touch attack

Not that bad compared to casters, druids, and oracles ...

the combination with the free-style fighter is probably the simplest and most diverse.

Agathion-blooded aasimar
Hinyasi Brawler 1/Armored Hulk Barbarian 14

22 Strength 16 Dexterity 14 Constitution 11 Intelligence 10 Wisdom 7 Charisma

Rage Powers: Smasher, Lesser Hurling, Hurling, Greater Hurling, Hurling Charge, Superstition, Body Bludgeon

Feats: Catch Off-guard, Throw Anything, Two Handed Thrower, Improved Grapple, Power Attack, Deadly Aim, Shikigami Style, Shikigami Mimicry, Shikigami Manipulation

Grab people and smash them into other people, regardless of if said other people are adjacent or across the room.

Forester is basically a Ranger/Cavalier combo.
Don't forget to pick up Planar Focus. Lots of utility for a single feat.

I wonder if anyone has ever built a build for this archetype?

Terrain Bond spell - must-have for the forester

Stick-Fighting Style: Stick-Fighting Style; Stick-Fighting Counter, Stick-Fighting Maneuver

Enforcer, sap adept, sap master etc.

Improved dirty tricks

There is also such an unusual build option:

Human (FCB, Heart of fields)
Hinyasi Brawler 1/Armored Hulk Barbarian 14

22 Strength 16 Dexterity 14 Constitution 11 Intelligence 10 Wisdom 7 Charisma

Rage Powers: Smasher, Lesser Hurling, Hurling, Greater Hurling, Hurling Charge, Superstition, Body Bludgeon

Feats: Catch Off-guard, Throw Anything, Two Handed Thrower, Improved Grapple, Power Attack, Deadly Aim, Shikigami Style, Shikigami Mimicry, Shikigami Manipulation

Grab people and smash them into other people, regardless of if said other people are adjacent or across the room.

6 Warpriest [Arsenal Chaplain]/1 Medium[Medium of the Master] - very cool

I would try the Negotiator bard. Oratory performs.

PhD. Okkam wrote:

And making a warrior from an alchemist is still a wrong idea, otherwise why a fighter?

Why is it wrong?

Really, in PF1 there are several classes that can and do take the front lines who don't have full BAB: Oracle, Alchemist, and Magus to name just a few. They play completely differently than a fighter, something that I suspect will persist in PF2.

It is a good thing to allow more than one class to fulfill a particular role in the game via different methods.

Yes, but now everyone has the same full BAB.

For discussion it is necessary to take into account, as far as I understand that the attack bonus for all classes is the same, therefore the mutagen is moved to the 5 level. Otherwise it would not be at all fair.

And making a warrior from an alchemist is still a wrong idea, otherwise why a fighter?

If I understand correctly, then the fighter can now learn how to create potions?

It would be nice to also completely remove the summoner!

Ravener Hunter looks cool.

Nobody expects the cat's inquisition!

Inquisitor (looks at all with suspicion)

PhD. Okkam wrote:

Living Grimoire Inquisitor (

Eh. Losing Judgment hurts, but being an Int-based prepared caster is way better than being a Wis-based spontaneous one. And the other losses are mostly not a big deal.

Yes, but an light mace is sad.

PhD. Okkam wrote:

Living Grimoire Inquisitor (

You take that back! Any archtype that lets me actually be Lord Mozgus is at least a 5/10.

Okay, Living Grimoire is basically a series of side grades and moderate downgrades, but it doesn't deserve to be put anywhere near the same level as stuff like Siege Mage, Brute, and Cardinal.

For my contribution though, I'll throw the Soul Forger Magus to the pile. Sure it doesn't actively make you attempt to murder your friends, but geez are the trades rubbish. Lose a level of spells and spell recall for a bonded item and some rubbish abilities to make mundane items cheaper or add hardness+hp to your own stuff temporarily. Whoop-de-frickin-do.

But it is almost all weaker than other archetypes of the inquisitor. And not much stronger in skills. -(

Maybe, as already stated earlier, take Kitsune and the Realistic Likeness feat and class Feral hunter?

The design of the occult classes is one of the best in the pathfinder!

Nobody did build Oozemorph with an optimization attempt?

If the Shifter were complemented by the abilities of a skinshaper druid archetype ...

Always dreamed of making a brawlers build with a fighting fan ...

BigNorseWolf wrote:

A Drifting Shoebox wrote:

Wouldn't it be better to compare it to the Hunter's Feral Hunter archetype, rather than the base Hunter? Base Hunter's aspects seem a very unfair comparison, given how many ways it can actually be used.

A problem with the archetype is that its not better than going old yeller.

If you're not going to have an animal companion at all via shooting it in the head and leaving it dead, not having the animal companion to begin with is logically better. Feral Hunter also makes it a better comparison to Shifter, as has been mentioned before, as it then would be doing the same sort of thing(s).

Feral hunters do not have full BAB, and there are no ways to increase the attack.

Ustaval. Lepidstadt inspector. Candle on the table. Drawings from the crime scene. And the rustle of the wings of the vampire in the night outside the castle window.

Wit bard. Perform - comedy.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo-bard-arc hetypes/wit-bard-archetype/

inquisitor (ravener hunter) with Life Mystery

Bard Negotiator it will be fun.

human unchained rogue (scout, sniper archetype)

1.Weapon Finesse, Point-Blank Shot, Dampen Presence
3.Precise Shot
4.Expert Sniper
5.Rapid Shot, Master Sniper
7.Deadly Aim
9.Ranged Feint

Inquisitor:
Sanctified Slayer
Sacred Huntmaster
Ravener Hunter

PhD. Okkam wrote:

Catfolk Fey Trickster Mesmerist

I TAKE IT BACK.

This is badwrongfun. Don't do this.

Take the racial feat "black cat". Just on the theme of the evil clown.

Is not it better Jack-of-All-Trades issue in battle a couple of spells, and drink a cup of coffee, while the party destroys the enemy?

Fighting is not his task, his task diplomacy, planning, intrigue, control, intelligence, support spells.

Vigilante Warlock?

For mage group urban scald very very fit...

Thank you, sorry, English is not my native language...

BadBird, tell me please: and be sure to use estoc to build, or it can be replaced ?