"And if a dragon that looks identical to the one that just died stands up and flies back, they're probably not going to shoot at it as it approaches."
"But hey, if anyone has a plan ... speak up."
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"Some dumb beasts saw the dragon fight and ran." "Besides, I've seen you cast that Veil spell before..."
"Can Mae cast a spell to make Jonuli look like that Green Dragon?"
Obidiah pulls out a Cure Light Wounds wand and heals himself.
"We can attempt the camp if everyone agrees." Obidiah offers. "I think that if there's trouble inside the castle, we should make sure our line of retreat is clear."
The AMF is a big problem for everybody. Sometimes you've just got to live with being suboptimal and pitch in.
Round 6: Obidiah moves away from the dragon NE until out of it's reach and the field (provoking once) and then flies around it to N12.
"Hey! Is anybody going to come help fight this thing?"
Obidiah will turn and charge the grounded dragon, hurtling down from above as his fly spell is negated. (charge, no magic, pwr attack, inspire courage, higher ground)
What happens if you're partially underground and earth glide stops working.
Obidiah takes a 5' step southeast, out of the edge of the cloudkill. The casts a quickend Dimension Door on himself and moves to F37. "Torags Beard!!! You are a big beastie!!!" he calls out. The he full attacks (via Dimensional Agility) with spell combat with his hammer.
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Casting Intensified Shocking Grasp
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Then he hovers in place, next to the dragon.
Edit: what was that? Rolling 4, 1, 8 , 16, and 7 on five attacks!
Behind the rock at BB-17
Round 2: Obidiah resets his hammer to Bane:Dragons
Obidiah is visible, but had taken cover. With Jonuli indicating the Dragon's continued approach and no sign of the chimera's yet, Obidiah decides on his next round to swap out Bane:Magical Beast for Bane:Dragon on his warhammer.
Obidiah readies an action to throw his hammer if the dragon enters Mae's invisibility purge radius.
Obidiah times his Haste with Devlins first non-blast and then will take cover, so he will burn two rounds of spell duration in his rounds 3 and 4.
Obidiah will cast Haste as well right before Devlin sinks underground to power up, including all party members that are close enough.
If you've got Blessing covered, then I'll skip Haste.
Obidiah casts Stoneskin on himself in preparation. He asks the others "Am I going to cast a Haste spell on all of us, or does someone else have that covered?" When Devlin blasts the Dragon, he will use a swift action and spend an arcane pool point to add Shock, Flaming Burst, and Frost to his warhammer and a standard action to use Warrior Spirit to add +2 enhancement bonus and Bane:Magical Beasts. Obidiah will find a place close to Devlin's hole where he can get under cover and have line of site to the sky between the fort and Devlin's position. He will make sure Mae is under cover as well. "Don't get spotted by the big green beastie lass. You won't make much more than a mouthful if it snatches you up."
"If Devlin can find a place on that slope where he can take a shot a the dragon then I'm game for backing him up." Obidiah says to the others. "While he's spinning up his magic pebbles, I'll find a concealed spot to power up my hammer and be ready for it when it comes after him." "We've got enough people on the ground that we're going to need to draw the dragon and the chimeras in so we can get at them." He continues. "Mae, could you cook up an illusion of a group of human knights and wizards to give them a target?" he asks the illusionist. "I'd doubt you could fool a dragon up close, but we want them to fly in and possibly waste their breath weapons on fake targets."
I can short-hop as many as I can touch with a dimension door to give us a headstart. The problem will be that we are likely to be spread out. I agree with Mae. We should go ahead and kick this off and see how it goes, instead of analyzing it to death. Let Dev tag the green beast and draw it in, then mob it with our melee characters.
I'm not quite sure the plan was "Devlin trying to nuke the dragon from a distance"; I was assuming that everyone would play a game of focus fire tag... Maybe it is the plan though. You've been lobbying to attack it where it lies for two days. You can get a couple of weakish blasts from the illusionist and the DD, but I'm not sure what you thought the monk, ninja, or magus was going to accomplish at 400+ feet of range. I'm not going to dimension door next to it surrounded by an army. I'm pretty sure you just make it mad and bring it to us, which is fine with me, but maybe you roll hot and kill it. greater invisibility which can have you shooting at flat footed AC. It's a dragon, not a pixie. Flat footed doesn't change anything. You might make it waste a standard action on see invisibility, but it's probably going to have plenty of targets.
I'm ok with the plan of Devlin trying to nuke the dragon from a distance. The way I see it, it goes one of three ways: (1) he rolls really well and kills it. We probably have to immediately deal with the chimeras that come for us, unless they have other leadership. (2) he hurts it badly, it retreats either behind the walls of the fort or to somewhere else and heals up. We've lost the element of surprise, but nothing more. We probably have to play hide-and-seek with the chimeras, but they probably don't kamikaze into us. (3) he only does mid-range or low damage to it. Then we're probably going to face off with the dragon and chimeras all at once. In any event, I think we'd better we ready to deal with a group of angry bear-chimeras.
@Devlin: your belt exceeds max gold limit in recruitment
I'm in favor of drawing the dragon out into an ambush and dealing with the foot soldiers afterwards.
"That big green beastie is likely to chase after someone who attacks it. Leaving the orcs behind at least." Obidiah says. "Especially if hurt by a gold beastie...." he finishes, looking sideways at Jonuli. "Pull it away from the camp, maybe back to the wreckage of the village, and lead it into an ambush."
"By Torag, that bunch up there killed all the folk of that village back there and carried off the survivors." Obidiah exclaims. "Getting to the castle is important, but we can't let those villagers suffer in bondage or worse." he continues. "We should draw that dragon out, kill it or drive it off, and then deal with the orcish scum." He looks to Jonuli for support.
Obidiah looks to Mae, Liam, and Jonuli to say "If they're racing ahead to scout, we should probably follow along slowly so we're close enough to rescue them when they get in trouble." He starts up the trail to the castle, keeping a lookout for trouble and a sharp ear for sounds that Rune and Devlin are in trouble.
Obidiah settles his helmet on his head and starts to circle the village outskirts, convinced that no large war party could have come and gone without leaving a trail.
"There's bound to be evidence of their coming and coming somewhere out here. Especially if they took prisoners and carried off the dead."
Obidiah casts Detect Magic on the orcish axe head that he found in the house. He walks back out into the street and spits. "Orcish trash .... the weapon was better made than most they would carry, but it hasn't been cleaned or sharpened in an age." he tells the others. "Seems like a formidable force attacked this place. Some creature that flew and breathed acid, a potent spellcaster, and orcish foot soldiers." "All of it disciplined enough to both attack and then clear the battlefield afterwards." "Not in the nature of most orcish scum."
Obidiah nods in thanks as Mae's familiar abjuration magic takes hold. "I see a lot of the same signs, lass." he answers after she shares her insight. "If there's flying enemies, we should be careful to maintain the element of surprise. In case they are circling nearby on watch." he continues. "By Torag, It's always a bother when they fly away and you have to chase them down."
Obidiah drinks from the cup offered by Mae. "Even with a destruction like this, there should have been bodies and survivors after such a battle." Obidiah says as he walks through the wreckage looking for signs of survivors, clues as to the nature of the attack, or tracks left by the attackers.
Obidiah walks up to the next rise and raises his left hand to shade his eyes against the glare of the sun. At only four feet tall and dressed in bulky plate armor, he gives the appearance of being as wide as he is tall. The steel plates of his armor gleam in the afternoon sun. His helmet is slung at his waist, leaving him bareheaded with long red-brown hair flowing down onto the pauldrons of his plate. His full beard is collected into five strong braids each gathered by golden rings that hang to a steel belt buckle covered in dwarven runes. A fine red cloak, fastened across his shoulders hangs down his back. Slung across his shoulders is a magical knapsack containing the majority of his gear, a dwarven short bow, and a quiver of black-fletched arrows. In his right hand he carries a heavy steel warhammer. The head of the hammer is covered in geometric shapes and magical dwarven runes. On his left forearm he wears a mithral buckler. The face of the buckler bears the holy symbol of Torag circled in more dwarven runes. While he does not go to the same efforts to conceal his appearance that several of his companions do, they know that there is more than meets the eye when it comes to this dwarven warrior.
@Mae: I've budgeted 1000gp worth of diamond dust to use as material components for restoration.
"I've worked with the Sarwals before, though it's been a long time. They had me help with forging a number of objects that they intended to enchant." Obidiah tells the others. "It was a bother back then that magical transportation was blocked around their home. I'm not surprised that nothing has changed."
This is joshb's submission. Obidiah is a dwarf Deep Marshall Magus with a flying hammer. Background:
Obidiah is from Highhelm in the Five Kings Mountains. In his youth he traveled across the Inner Sea and into the dark places under the earth in search of adventures.
Years ago, long before the birth of their daughter Obidiah studied magic and crafting at the home of the Sarwals. While he had much to learn of spells from them, they needed his talent with a hammer in the forge when building items of power. After being away from Highhelm for decades, Obidiah felt the call to return to his ancestral home. After a period of acclimation and some suspicion after his long absence he was welcomed back. His skill with spell and hammer has earned him the high rank of Forgemaster in the Temple-Forge of Torag, and his martial skills have earned him the rank of sub-commander of the garrison of the Deeplock fortress that protects Highhelm from dangers emerging from the depths. Appearance: Obidiah is around four feet tall and weighs about one-hundred and sevety-five pounds. He has dark brown hair and a long beard bound up in shining gold rings. When traveling or adventuring he generally wears a suit of enchanted full plate armor that he crafted himself. On his left arm he wears a shining, mithral buckler inlaid with the symbol of Torag and in his right hand he carries an enchanted warhammer. A dark green cloak hangs down his back and his belt and boots are made from matching black leather.
the campaign as designed was destined for this. yes, 4 ranged martial characters at 17th level can generate 400-600 points of damage. But any magical challenge they confront will turn off the party. One well designed character has the best dpr and controls 90% of the games spellcasting. Everyone else wants to feel relevant, so the rogue and melee fighter traded in their characters for ranged dpr characters because there weren't any challenges that matched up with their characters strengths. My cavalier has no way to keep up with the fighter and paladin/inquisitor ranged dpr when he runs out of challenges so I shifted to provide a fairly minor AC buff to have some reason to keep playing. We proved in one combat that glorious challenge / chain challenge doesn't actually work for a cavalier at because enemies won't stand next to each other and if they do, another party member will kill-steal a challenge target and end the chain.
When the GM says 'rules laywer' and 'shenanigan' in one sentence, it is of note.
or This is not something I put in here to be a dick. Want to try to get consistent with whether this is or isn't a reaction to my supposed game breaking mount, that I'll point out again hasn't had any impact on the game because you just metagamed it out of the picture.
hey, the goat has never actually influenced combat once since I started using the bodyguard ability. He's never improved anyone's AC. You've used foreknowledge of my announced intended reaction to attacks on allies to guide the bad guys in to not attacking anyone adjacent to him. That would make the monster that appeared to suddenly want to sunder his armor that improves his bodyguard ability equally ridiculous, given that he's never actually used it. We're level 17. Wizards cast Wish at this level. Having a cavalier buff adjacent allies against 6 individual attacks by 5 AC is just a perplexing thing to decide is overpowered.
I think you've proved pathfinder with guns but without magic is boring.
You realize that if players don't build characters the way you do, then you just start bullying? Use dimensional agility and sneak attack to kill monsters = rage quit adventure Use grit to cause confusion = threat Use aid another to boost Armor class = threat Would you like to build the character and tell me how to play it? What do you want? Another generic pouncing multiple attack warcat cavalier mount that maximizes damage output? You aren't being reasonable.
really? the goat bothers you that much?
Challenge shadow #3, activate boots of speed (seeking, precise shot, challenge, haste, steel ammo)
If shadow #3 drops, glorious challenge to #4, if #4 drops glorious challenge #5, damage bonus goes up by 2 each time. Goat holds, if a little unsteady and attacks Shadow#6.
Defends adjacent allies in enemies's turn up to 6 times.
Obi reloads his pistol with giant bane cartridges. "Quit playing with that giant and kill it Boom!" he calls out to the alchemist.
Obi and Billy pivot to the south to deal with #4. Obi activates his boots of speed, pulls his masterwork revolver loaded with giant bane cartridges with his right hand, flips off the giant with his left hand (challenge) and opens fire. (pbs, precise shot, giant hunter, haste, steel round, bane giant)
(bane, pbs, challenge)
Billy holds steady. Defends adjacent allies in giant's turn up to 6 times.
Challenge storm giant #2, activate boots of speed (seeking, precise shot, challenge, haste, steel ammo)
Goat holds steady. Defends adjacent allies in giant's turn up to 6 times.
Obi takes a second or two to use his lesser restore wand on the goat to fix its dex damage.
really....
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