I have always used claws as slashing and piercing.
Bite i recently found out was all three.
When I first read the Bestiary years ago, I worked with the bludgeoning from the force of the paw (think a bear swiping at you with its paw) - it does not poke you with it (piercing) but rather 'bats' you with its paw (B) and at the same time the claws of the paw slash through your skin.
I played a starfinder 1E briefly a few years ago. I have not looked at the 2E rules set yet, but will peruse them and come up with the basics of the ABCs to throw my hat into the ring.
I have read through most of the past two pages of discussion tab on your Threefold Conspiracy campaign.
If we decide a particular format isn't working out we'll switch to something else freely accessible without an account if at all possible.
Some of the games I have played/playing in use slides. I can find it a bit frustrating (particularly accidentally selecting the map grid instead of a token). This usually results by trying to move tokens without first zooming in on the map to where the token you want to move is.
A free to use VTT I have been using for years is owlbear rodeo.
A free account gives you two rooms. You can have multiple maps on a free account. I tend to edit maps in Paint3D to make one larger map so using only of the two rooms (you get with free to use accounts) you do not have to 'lose' visual of where some players's tokens are, for when the PCs are in various different locations at the same time.
Here is an example of how good a free account on owlbear rodeo is:
I made the map of Sandpoint into an actual 5 foot grid space map using it.
I will have to grant permission for you to enter the room (map). When I get back tonight, I will check it and grant permission to all who requested it.
Accuracy (Ex): At 1st level, a sniper halves all range increment penalties when making ranged attacks with a bow or crossbow.
Curse Sense (+3 AC/saves) (+5 Perception/Spellcraft) (Ex): At 4th level, a relic raider adds 1/2 her rogue level on Perception checks to notice haunts and on Spellcraft checks to identify cursed items (using detect magic or similar effects).
In addition, the relic raider gains a +1 bonus on saving throws against curses and haunts and a +1 dodge bonus to AC against attacks by haunts. These bonuses increase by 1 at 6th level and every 3 rogue levels thereafter (to a maximum of +6 at 18th level).
Deadly Range (60 feet) (Ex): At 3rd level, a sniper increases the range at which she can apply her sneak attack damage by 10 feet. This range increases by 10 feet for every 3 levels after 3rd.
Disable Curse (Su): At 8th level, a relic raider can attempt to disable a curse as she would a magical trap. This ability acts as remove curse, except instead of a caster level check, the relic raider attempts a Disable Device check (DC = 15 + the DC of the curse). Disabling a curse takes 2d4 rounds, and the relic raider cannot take 10 or 20 on this check. A relic raider can use this ability once per day at 8th level. At 12th level and every 4 rogue levels thereafter, a relic raider can use disable curse one additional time per day.
I'd be interested in one of the remaining group members.
Maybe a warrior of some sort that the inquisitor saved him from being burned at the stake. Although he was not guilty of the crime, he owes the inquisitor a life debt and feels honor-bound to protect him until his his debt is paid.
In an evenly matched fight there would be no need for a Crit confirmation as a roll of 18 (2.16% chance) would easily hit an equal opponent. So, I'm good with a 2% chance of a critical. I'd prefer damage be more planned so that you are forced to go power attack (-1/+1 untrained -3/+3 with feat).
OCD observation: 18 on 3d6 is not a 2.16% chance. It is a 1 in 216 chance, which is a 0.4629629 % (with the 629 repeating).
One of my personality quirks/perks/flaws is correcting friends and family members when they state something that is factually (not opinion-based) incorrect, so to prevent the probability of them coming off later in life as not being very bright to observers who know that such 'facts' they are uttering are flat-out incorrect when repeating the same incorrect info as 'facts'.
That is if they listen to me and choose to learn from me regarding the subject manner.
Some do, and appreciate my counsel. Some simply become annoyed at me for informing them the 'fact' they thought was a legitimate fact actually is not. I think part of why they might become annoyed is that my words make them realize what they stated as a 'fact' is something an uneducated/not very bright person would deduce as 'fact' (and instead of allowing themselves to be humbled when it makes them realize they just made themselves look like a fool, direct resentment towards me for voicing my observation that pointed out what they just said is incorrect).
My intent is not to make them feel stupid, it is to educate them with the correct fact.
My intent is so that they do not make themselves come off as being stupid in front of strangers (such as when someone on a city bus says an incorrect 'fact' as a fact and the majority of the people on the bus know that the person is blatantly incorrect about what he thinks is factually correct when it is not, and thus the other passengers on the bus view the person as not being very bright.
I hope no offense was taken, Ironperenti.
If you want close to 2% chance of scoring a critical hit between two evenly-matched combatants, without needing a confirmation roll, then I suggest rolling a 17 or 18 on the 3d6 roll being a critical hit, which is a 4 in 216 chance, which in percentage format is a 1.851851 % (with the 851 repeating) chance to score a critical hit against someone whose defense stat is evenly matched against the attack strength of the attack.
I made a mathematical error in my previous post regarding calculating the DCs for damage effect rolls against the defender's Toughness, as I increased the DC for the attacker to damage the target, but that should have been lowering the DC by one degree for the attacker (which is the equivalent of increasing the DC for the Toughness save if the defender made the roll).
@Ironperenti, if you would like me to, I can figure out the correct probabilities for using DC 11 as the baseline for Toughness saves (from the attacker's perspective probability) and/or using the baseline Toughness saves which uses a Toughness DC that is one degree higher for the defender (DC 14), which from the attacker's perspective would be one degree lower (DC 8).
The reason I increased (instead of decreasing like I should have, as noted above in this post) the DC for Damage effect rolls to a baseline of 14 (instead of 11) is because in 3E the DC for Toughness saves has DC that is one degree of success (5 points in 3E, which is 3 points in the 4E beta test) higher than the DC for other defenses.
I have also thought about using an exploding d10 or even a d12 but we'll play with that later if you guys can stick with crazy me long enough.
Sounds fun. I plan on sticking around with 'crazy' you long enough to see how that works out for our gameplay.
One of my pet peeves as a GM of many years are players who rush to make use of content from brand new source books but think that GMs should not also be able to change the rules being used for the campaign to incorporate new rules introduced in the very same new sourcebooks. In my experience, those players are also the ones mostly like to habitually 'fudge' their dice rolls (attempting to use their hand to block other players and the GM from seeing the die roll and quickly picking the die up, thinking no one saw their blatant cheating) and lying about the number they rolled.
@GM: You will see if using 16 or higher for critical threats, and needing to roll the DC required to inflict 1 Toughness hit point to confirm the critical hit, means that an attacker with an effect modifier that is equal to the target's toughness modifier (using base of 14 DC to inflict damage, as DC 14 is 1 degree of success higher than baseline of 11 for resistance DCs against attack rolls), that an attacker that has an effect modifier that is equal to the Toughness 'modiifer' of the target, only nets a critical hit 1.736111111 % of time (and is the ONLY way for such evenly matched offensive ranks (attacker) and defensive ranks (target) for the target to gain the Incapacitiated condition (working with them having enough Toughness hit points remaining before the critical hit that the loss of Toughness hit points from a non-critical hit would not incapaciate them).
Needing 18 on the 3d6 dice roll to be a critical hit (with no confirmation roll needed): 0.4629629 % (629 repeating) chance of such evenly matched opponents for the attacker to score a critical hit and the the target gaining the Incapacitated condition:
That is 1 in 216 odds for such evenly matched opponents actually getting a critical hit on each other. That is the odds for their first attempt, with the overall odds getting worse the more attempts they make:
odds of 1st attack not being critical hit: 215/216 (99.537037 %)
odds of 2nd attack then being criticla hit: 215/216 x 1/216 = 0.4608196159 % (rounded off to 10th decimal point) That is 1 in 217.0046511627 odds (rounded off at 10th decimal point) of scoring a critical hit with the second attack.
odds of 1st and 2nd attack not being critical hit and 3rd attack being critical hit: (215/216) x (215/216) x (1/216) = 0.4586861917 % (rounded of at 10th decimal point) That is 1 in 218.0139751216 odds (rounded off at 10th decimal point) of scoring a critical hit with the third attack.
Using only natural 18 on the 3d6 dice roll to be critical hits (with no confirmation rolls required) would result in it taking an average of 10.8 attacks to gain the same probabilty of rolling a natural 20 on a single 1d20 roll.
That also means it will take on average, 216 punches between two evenly matched opponents to cause an first hit incapacitating-inducing 'punch' (which in comic book format terms, is several comic issues between such punches) (Comic Issue Format to distinguish how different probability odds affects how often 'Big Finish' 'punches' occur):
If using 16 or higher on the 3d6 dice roll to be an automatic critical hit, that means about every 22nd (10 in 216 odds) hit is an incapacitating-inducing level 'punch' (which in comic book format terms, is one extended fight scene per comic issue with a 'finishing strike' 'punch' - which matches up to traditional comics fight scenes.
If using 16 or higher on 3d6 dice roll and needing +12 Toughness baseline confirmation DC, that is 1.736111111 % odds of scoring a critical hit, which means about every 57.6000000037 (rounded at 10th decimal point) hit is an incapacitating-inducing level 'punch' (which in comic format terms is a fight that takes up the majority of the pages of the comic issue before the fight has a big finish 'punch').
Adding in (after seeing GM's post) to account for only 18 on the 3d6 dice roll to be a critical threat (with confirmation roll needed, using DC to cause 1 Toughness hit point to the target): 0.1736111111 % (111 repeating) chance of such evenly matched opponents for the attacker to score a critical hit and the target gaining the Incapacitated condition. That is 1 in 576 odds of such evenly matched opponents actually getting a critical hit on each other.
@DQ: In 4E beta rules, every 3 points in difference from the DC is an extra degree of success/failure, not 5 point as it is in 3E.
With using 11 as the base to figure out resistance save DCs, it will simulate using 10 as the base with defenders winning ties. With DC baseline of 11, it makes the attack/effect roll a 'exceed the DC' instead of a 'meet or beat' the DC to gain 1 degree of success.
I like using 11 as a the base, as when the 'active'/'attack' ranks being the same as the resistance ranks, the one taking the action needs to roll 11 or higher (the top 50%) with the 3d6 rolls.
Working with Toughness baseline DC being 14 (one degree of success higher than a baseline of DC 11):
Toughness DC 14 (if the effective ranks are the same as the defender's Toughness ranks):
-rolling an 11 with the 3d6 effect roll nets 2 degrees of failure (no damage)
- rolling a 12 or 13 on the 3d6 effect roll nets 1 degree of failure (loss of 1 Toughhness hit point)
- rolling 14, 15 or 16 on the 3d6 effect roll nets 1 degree of success (loss of 1 Toughness hit point and target gains the Dazed condition).
- rolling 17 or 18 on the 3d6 effect roll nets 2 degrees of success (loss of 2 Toughness hit points and target gains the Staggered condition).
- A evenly matched effective ranks (total effect modifier) against a target with an effective resistance modifier equal to the effect modifier of the attacker cannot be incapacitated by the attacker...unless critical threats/critical hits are part of the 4E beta test rules.
The following use rolling 16 or higher on the 3d6 dice roll as being a critical hit (closest equivalent to rolling a natural 20 on 1d20), which is 4.629629 % chance to roll a critical threat (without ranks in Improved Critical advantage) using 3d6:
- If the 4E beta test uses critical threats, which is the DC we use as the target DC to confirm a critical threat?
- The DC required to inflict 1 Toughness hit point (DC 12) (12 or higher needed on 3d6 confirmation roll)
- Proabability of scoring a critical hit between evenly matched effect ranks vs Toughness ranks ==> attack roll percentage odds (4.629629 %) x 12 or higher with 3d6 odds (37.5 %) = 1.736111111 % (with the 111 repeating).
- The DC required to score one degree of success (DC 14) (14 or higher needed on 3d6 confirmation roll)
- Probabality of scoring a critical hit between evenly matched effect ranks vs Tougness ranks ==> attack roll percentage odds (4.629629 %) x 14 or higher with 3d6 odds (16.2037037 %) = 0.7501714678 % (rounded off at 10th decimal point) probability of scroing a critical hit (and making the target gain the Incapacitated condition).
- The DC to score the degree of success below inflicted the Staggered condition (DC 17) (17 or 18 needed on 3d6 confirmation roll)
- Probaility of scoring a critical hit between evenly matched effect ranks vs Toughness ranks ==> attack roll percentage odds (4.629629 %) x 17 or 18 on 3d6 odds (1.851851 %) = 0.0857338820 % (rounded off at 10th decimal point) of scoring a critical hit (and making the target gain the Incapacitated condition).
Since using 16 or higher on the 3d6 dice roll being a critical threat, even using the lowest DC (enough to inflict 1 Toughness hit point) to confirm a critical hit, means that two evenly matched effective modifier of attacker and Toughness modifier of defender, only scores a critical hit 1.736111111 % of the time.
With that in mind, unless the GM wants critical hits (without the Improved Critical advantage) only happening 2% (rounded off) of the time between two evenly between a stong guy with effect ranks against tough guy with toughness that are equal to each other), I suggest making rolling 16 or higher on the 3d6 dice roll an automatic critical hit without any confirmation rolls needed.
Note: By keeping confirmation roll needed (with DC 12 baseline confirmation roll), it effectively makes needing effect modifiers to be at least be equal to the toughness modifier of the target for an an attack between to evenly matched opponents to land an incapicating 'punch'.
Jimmy Olsen will never be able to score a critical punch on Superman, if critical confirmation rolls are needed. If they are not needed, then Jimmy (punch effect modifier +0, Luck advantage) still could not score a critical hit (working with Clark being Clark or not moving out of the way as Jimmy punches at Superman to let out stress, knowing he will never hurt his super pal), as Superman has (Protection 4, Impervious Toughness 18).
edit: When I previewed this post, I saw that our GM had posted while I was typing this up.
I need the baddies' Will Defense scores for Freefall's Teleport Attack.
Are the following examples correct?
Example 1:
Gust uses Kaikias the Blasting Wind (+10/+10) against one of the imps.
DQ (Gust) does the following:
Kaikias the Blasting Wind attack:3d6 + 10 ⇒ (5, 4, 1) + 10 = 20 vs DC 16 (base 5 + 11)
He previews post to see if his attack roll was successful, if it was not, he adds the flavor of the missed attack. If it was successful, he then scripts for the effect roll. In this example, the 20 succeeds by the DC by 4. Question: Does getting extra successes on the attack roll affect the successes of the effect roll?
Kaikias the Blasting Wind effect:3d6 + 10 ⇒ (4, 3, 3) + 10 = 20 vs DC 14 (base 3 + 11)
In this example, the effect roll exceeded the DC by 6, netting 3 successes. The imp loses all 3 of its 3 Toughness Hits (hit points) and becomes incapacitiated (unconscious).
Example 2:
BD (Atlastic) does the following:
Atlastic does his Big Finish against a goatman.
Big Finish attack:3d6 + 10 ⇒ (4, 6, 5) + 10 = 25 vs DC 17 (base 6 + 11)
He previews to see if his attack was successful. If it was not successful, he then adds flavor of the missed attack. If it was successful, he then scripts for the effect roll. In this example, the 25 exceeds the DC by 8 (with 3 successes). See question in example 1 regarding if extra successes on attack roll affects successes of the effect roll.
He succeeds, and his total of 12 on the 3d6 dice pool roll does not trigger the Improved Critical of his Big Finish (which would have had a +5 bonus on the effect roll in Atlastic's favor).
Big Finish effect:3d6 + 10 ⇒ (5, 3, 4) + 10 = 22 vs DC 21 (base 10 + 11)
He scores 1 success on the effect roll, so the goatman loses 1 of its Toughness Hits (hit points) and gains the dazed condtion.
The above was using passive defenses (using 11 as base).
See spoiler below regarding how ranks of Improved Critical convert to 3d6 dice method (keeping the closest equivalent odds the advantage has in d20 dice method).
converting 1d20 odds to 3d6 odds:
As shown in my earlier post, rolling 16 or higher on 3d6 is the closest equivalent to rolling a natural 20 on 1d20.
For simplicity's sake, extending the low result of the bell curve only for lower half of result totals, since they generate the exact odds for the the numbers generated for the 11 to 18 results.
net 3 (1 in 216 odds)
net 4 (4 in 216 odds)
net 5 (10 in 216 odds)
net 6 (1,1,4), (1,4,1), (4,1,1), (1,2,3), (1,3,2), (2,1,3), (2,3,1), (3,1,2), (3,2,1), (2,2,2) ==> 20 in 216 odds of rolling a 6 or lower==> 10 in 108 odds ==> 1 in 10 4/5 odds; Odds in percentage format: 9.259259% (with 259 repeating); Closest equivalent is rolling 2 or less on 1d20.
net 7 (1,1,5), (1,5,1), (5,1,1), (1,2,4), (1,4,2), (2,1,4), (2,4,1), (4,1,2), (4,2,1), (1,3,3), (3,1,3), (3,3,1), (2,2,3), (2,3,2), (3,2,2) ==> 35 in 216 odds of rolling a 7 or lower ==> 1 in 6 6/216 ==> 1 in 6 1/36 odds; Odds in percentage format: 16.2037037 % (with the 037 repeating); Closest equivalent is rolling 3 or less on 1d20.
net 8 (1,1,6), (1,6,1), (6,1,1), (1,2,5), (1,5,2), (2,1,5), (2,5,1), (5,1,2), (5,2,1), (1,3,4), (1,4,3), (3,1,4), (3,4,1), (4,1,3), (4,3,1), (2,2,4), (2,4,2), (4,2,2), (2,3,3), (3,2,3), (3,3,2) ==> 56 in 216 odds of rolling a 8 or lower ==> 1 in 3 48/56 ==> 1 in 3 6/7 odds; Odds in percentage format: 25.925925 % (with the 259 repeating); Closest equivalent is rolling 5 or less on 1d20.
net 9 (1,2,6), (1,6,2), (2,1,6), (2,6,1), (6,1,2), (6,2,1), (1,3,5), (1,5,3), (3,1,5), (3,5,1), (5,1,3), (5,3,1), (1,4,4), (4,1,4), (4,4,1), (2,2,5), (2,5,2), (5,2,2), (2,3,4), (2,4,3), (3,2,4), (3,4,2), (4,2,3), (4,3,2), (3,3,3) ==> 81 in 216 odds of rolling 9 or lower ==> 1 in 2 54/81 ==> 1 in 2 2/3 odds; Odds in percentage format: 37.5 %; Closest equivalent when rolling 1d20 is tied ==> rolling either 7 or less or 8 or less on 1d20.
net 10 (1,3,6), (1,6,3), (3,1,6), (3,6,1), (6,1,3), (6,3,1), (1,4,5), (1,5,4), (4,1,5), (4,5,1), (5,1,4), (5,4,1), (2,2,6), (2,6,2), (6,2,2), (2,3,5), (2,5,3), (3,2,5), (3,5,2), (5,2,3), (5,3,2), (2,4,4), (2,4,2), (4,4,2), (3,3,4), (3,4,3), (4,3,3) ==> 108 in 216 odds ==> 1 in 2 odds; percentage format: 50%; Exact equivalent is rolling 10 or less on 1d20.
Odds of rolling a 6 (or 15) with 3d6 ==> 10 in 216 ==> 1 in 21 3/5; in percentage format: 4.629629 % (with the 629 repeating); Closest equivalent of rolling a specific number on 1d20 (such as 20).
Odds of rolling a 7 (or 14) with 3d6 ==> 15 in 216 ==> 1 in 14 6/216 ==> 1 in 14 1/36; in percentage format: 6.9444444 % (with the 4 repeating); Closest equivalent roll on 1d20 is a specific number (such as 20), Note: Using 6 (or 15) total on 3d6 is better equivalent than 7 (or 14) total on 3d6, since rolling a 6 (or 15) has the smallest absolute value difference to 5 %.)
Odds of rolling a 8 (or 13) with 3d6 ==> 21 in 216 ==> 1 in 10 6/21 ==> 1 in 10 2/7; in percent format: 9.7222222 % (with the 2 repeating); Closest equivalent roll on 1d20 is rolling one of two specific numbers (such as 19 or 20).
Odds of rolling a 9 (or 12) with 3d6 ==> 25 in 216 ==> 1 in 8 16/25; in percent format: 11.5740740 % (with 740 repeating); Closest equivalent roll on 1d20 is rolling one of two specific numbers (such as 19 or 20); Note: Using 8 (or 13) on 3d6 is better equivant than 9 (or 12) on 3d6, since rolling rolling 8 (or 13) has the smallest absolute value difference from 10 %.)
Odds of rolling a 10 (or 11) with 3d6 ==> 27 in 216 ==> 1 in 8 odds; in percentage format: 12.5 %; Closest equivalent roll when rolling 1d20 is tied ==> either rolling one of two specific numbers or one of 3 specific numbers; Note: As rolling a 8 (or 13) is the better equivalent for rolling one of two specific numbers, using a roll of 10 (or 11) is better used to represent one of three specific numbers on 1d20.
Matching up 1d20 rolls to 3d6 totals (starting with highest rolls)
1d20 (20): 16 or higher on 3d6
1d20 (19-20): 15 or higher on 3d6
1d20 (18-20): 14 or higher on 3d6
1d20 (17-20): -
1d20 (16-20): 13 or higher on 3d6
1d20 (15-20): -
1d20 (14-20): 12 or higher on 3d6 (37.5 % odds)
1d20 (13-20): 12 or higher on 3d6 (37.5 % odds)
1d20 (12-20): -
1d20 (11-20): 11 or higher on 3d6
1d20 (1-10): 10 or less on 3d6
1d20 (1-9): -
1d20 (1-8): 9 or less on 3d6 (37.5 % odds)
1d20 (1-7): 9 or less on 3d6 (37.5 % odds)
1d20 (1-6): -
1d20 (1-5): 8 or less on 3d6
1d20 (1-4): -
1d20 (1-3): 7 or less on 3d6
1d20 (1-2): 6 or less on 3d6
1d20 (1): 5 or less on 3d6
1d20 (20): 16 or higher on 3d6
1d20 (19): 15 on 3d6
1d20 (18): 14 on 3d6
1d20 (16 or 17): 13 on 3d6
1d20 (14 or 15): 12 on 3d6
1d20 (11, 12 or 13): 11 on 3d6
1d20 (8, 9 or 10): 10 on 3d6
1d20 (6 or 7): 9 on 3d6
1d20 (4 or 5): 8 on 3d6
1d20 (3): 7 on 3d6
1d20 (2): 6 on 3d6
1d20 (1): 5 or less on 3d6
Without ranks in Improved Critical advantage, rollng a 16 or higher with the 3d6 dice pool is a critical threat (since rolling 16 or higher with 3d6 is the equivalent of rolling a natural 20 on 1d20).
With 1 rank of Improved Critical advantage, score threats with 15 or higher on 3d6; 14 or higher with 2 ranks; 3rd rank in Improved Critical costing 2 power points (instead of 1) due to using 3d6 dice pool, 4th rank in Improved Critical advantage costing 2 power points (instead of 1). The additional cost in power points for the 3rd and 4th rank in Improved Critical is for GMs who want the advantage to not gain considerable more effect using the 3d6 dice method.
@Lia: Will you reconsider adding the Ancestry Paragon variant rule for our characters?
You will see from the spoilers below, that if you add the Ancestry Paragon variant rule, the story/thematics of Taumata becoming more like a true conspirator dragon becomes more significant throughout the campaign.
Starigati's Ancestry Feat Plan, without using Ancestry Paragon, to include Accommodating Mount:
Lv 5) Dragon's Flight (With GM's approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati.) --> Accommodating Mount (GM's permission already given that Taumata gains the benefits of this feat instead of Starigati.)
Lv 9) True Dragon's Flight (With GM's approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati.) --> Dragon's Flight (With GM's approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati.)
Lv 13) Draconic Scent (With GM's approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati)
Lv 17) Draconic Veil (With GM approval, Taumata gains the benefits of this feat instead of Starigati.) (The benefits have similarities to the Conjure Disguise ability of conspirator dragons)
Starigati's Ancestry Feat Plan, if using Ancestry Paragon:
Lv 5) Accomodating Mount (GM's permission already given that Taumata gains the benefits of this feat instead of Starigati.)
Lv 7) Dragon's Flight (With GM's approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati.)
Lv 9) True Dragon's Flight (With GM's approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati.)
Lv 11) Draconic Scent (With GM's approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati)
Lv 13) Draconic Veil (With GM approval, Taumata gains the benefits of this feat instead of Starigati.) (The benefits have similarities to the Conjure Disguise ability of conspirator dragons)
Lv 15) Wing Buffet (With GM's approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati.) (Conspirator dragons do not have Frightful Presence, which is why I did not choose Majestic Presence for one of the dragonblood feats. Only 3 of the 8 new dragons from Monster Core have Frightful Presence, with the others having a different aura or special ability.)
Lv 17) Lingering Breath (With GM approval, Taumata gains the benefit of this feat instead of Starigati. Also, with GM approval, instead of causing the terrain to become hindering terrain for 1 minute, it has the effect of mist for 1 minute, which is the effect and duration of the smoke breath weapon of conspirator dragons)
Lv 19) Form of the Dragon (With GM approval, Taumata gains the benefits of this feat instead of Starigati.) (As Taumata will already be Huge, instead of changing her form, she gains mechanical benefits of the 8th rank of Dragon Form, effectively gaining closer to the full abilities of being a conspirator dragon.)
3 (1,1,1) 1 in 216 odds
4 (1,1,2), (1,2,1), (2,1,1) 4 in 216 = 1 in 54 odds to roll 4 or less
5 (1,1,3), (1,3,1), (3,1,1), (1,2,2), (2,1,2), (2,2,1) 10 in 216 = 1 in 21 3/5 odds to roll a 5 or less. Slightly less odds than a natural 1 on 1d20.
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As can be seen by the numbers generated at the ends of bell curve, rolling a total of 5 or lower on the 3d6 is the closest equivalent of rolling a natural 1 on 1d20; and rolling a 16 or higher on 3d6 is the closest equivalent of rolling a natural 20 on 1d20.
So if we do move to passive resistance DCs, our GM might want to lower the resistance DCs of NPCs (including super villains) from 3E (or earlier editions) stat blocks by 4, so our characters have the (closest to) same chances of rolling a 'natural 20' (highest possible effect against baddies' defenses that can be attained in 3E & 2E) with our attack and effect rolls against such NPC stat blocks.
@Jubal (Sigil): With respect, please keep this in mind for future posts:
If I post something that could affect the way we decide to handle the dice generating number method for how we play, there is a good and valid reason that I did so. It will prevent headaches for both of us if you keep this in mind. This applies to any such posts I make, be it for this campaign or other campaigns, as well as for other ttrpg rules sets.
I mentioned the consideration for using 8 for the base (instead of 10 or 11) for passive resistances in case our GM is pulling stats from 3E (or earlier) editions (which were designed with the 1d20 method as the core mechanic, not the 3d6 mechanic of the 4e beta test). As most source material is 3E (or earlier editions), that oversight (if no one caught it) could have had an unexpected negative impact on our gameplay dice rolls while fighting foes with high defense ratings.
There is a significant difference between "You need to roll the highest, or close to highest number(s) possible on the die/dice pool roll to hit the Big Bad", as opposed to "Even if you roll the maximim number result on your attack die/dice pool roll, you can never hit the Big Bad".
There was a very good reason I brought up the observation in the first place.
'marginal benefit' can also be worded as 'slight advantage'. Thanks for echoing my point. :)
You taught me nothing new about the fact that using 3d6 instead of 1d20 weights rolls towards the middle of the bell curve of the number totals generated. As I mentioned, the highest-possible number achieved using 3d6 is 2 less than what is generated on 1d20, which the designers have used for 3e and 2 e (I do not know if 1e was a d20 based game as well).
Using my observation and advice from my earlier post, if our GM decides to go with passive DCs using 10 or 11, he is now aware that if he is using pre 4E resources that he might want to reduce their resistance DCs by 2 to compensate.
Actually, he might want to lower their passive resistance DCs by more than two, considering the bell curve of using 3d6 to generate our attack and effect of our actions.
Reminder: Using default rules, Taumata and Myrp get only 2 actions each while Myrp is riding Taumata. Normally a rider PC has to be at least 2 sizes smaller than the PC that is the 'mount'. Roll both their initiatives and use the lower of the two results. The two PCs act in either order on the same initiative count.
Pretty sure the RAI is for a bipedal rider riding a bipedal 'mount'.
As Taumata does not have the mount special ability, the restriction of 2 actions per PC is in effect.
Since Taumata has a quadruped form, the rider PC only needs to be 1 size smaller.
Your equine body is well suited for carrying trusted allies. A PC can ride you if they are one size category smaller than you (Medium size, for most centaurs), rather than needing to be two size categories smaller.
GM-Lia wrote:
Note that if Myrp is riding Tuamata and an encounter starts, both only get 2 actions per round per the Players riding Players rules introduced in Howl of the Wild. That said, if it's something that they do often, at higher levels, we can adapt Centaur ancestry feats to allow those penalties to be reduced.
Thanks, Lia.
I was going to plot in the summoner's Steed Form feat for other PCs to ride Taumata without a penalty to their action economy, but the summoner feat only has benefit when the summoner rides the eidolon.
I have updated Starigati's summoner feat plan to incorporate Accomodating Mount in at 10th level (delaying his increase to large size until 12th level, replacing Towering Size). As he is growing at each level increase (but within the same size category until he gains the Hulking Size feat), he eventually gets big enough that it easy to accomodate one of the small-sized riders in the group without the rider needing to use an action to remain on, so when he becomes large-sized, he will be able to acommodate one of the medium-sized group members of the group.
Updated summoner feat plan for Starigati (and Taumata):
* = evolution feat
Lv 1: Meld into Eidolon; (bonus evolution feat): Glider Form*
Lv 2: Dual Studies (Starigati-Acrobatics, Taumata-Deception)
Lv 4: Skilled Partner (1st level skill feat: Arcane Sense; 2nd level skill feat: Titan Wrestler; 7th level skill feat: Assurance (Athletics)
Lv 6: Magical Understudy* (Read Aura, Sigil)
Lv 8: Magical Adept* (I have notes somewhere for which spells he gains)
Lv 10: Hulking Size* --> Accomodating Mount* (evolution feat considering Steed Form is an evolution feat)
Lv 12: Towering Size* --> Hulking Size*
Lv 14: Airborne Form*
Lv 16: Ever-Vigilant Senses*
Lv 18: Magical Master* (The notes I have reflect spells that match up to conspirator dragons' spells and special abilities)
Lv 20: True Transmogrification
The benefit of Myrp (or Jikah) riding him, is while Taumata is using the Avoid Notice exploration activity, the rider can use another exploration activity (and benefitting from Taumata's stealthy movement, as they do not need to make a separate Stealth check (as long as they are not making noise).
@Seth: I think there are still two player slots left for the weekly dedicated hour (on Wednesdays from 8:30 pm Pacific to 9:30 pm Pacific). Is that a weekly time slot that works for you?
If you scroll up/through the posts look for my posts via my Preacherelius profile - it includes lists of who (so far) is in the Wednesday night game, including campaign traits each PC has.
@Trawets71: GM Wolf posted two days ago that the other table (for the players posting in here that the dedicated weekly Wednesday time slot does not work for), that he could make it a standard PBP without the dedicated weekly hour.
For ones who are not familiar with this youtuber, he makes well presented videos, that you can pause the video with the full feats/ancestries/etc. write-ups on the screen, if you prefer to pause to read the rules entries.
He also does some entertaining concept character build vids, such as this one.
Continue the theme of suggesting PF youtubers, the best Golarion lore youtuber I have come across is Mythkeeper.
Reminder: Using default rules, Taumata and Myrp get only 2 actions each while Myrp is riding Taumata. Normally a rider PC has to be at least 2 sizes smaller than the PC that is the 'mount'. Roll both their initiatives and use the lower of the two results. The two PCs act in either order on the same initiative count.
Pretty sure the RAI is for a bipedal rider riding a bipedal 'mount'.
As Taumata does not have the mount special ability, the restriction of 2 actions per PC is in effect.
Since Taumata has a quadruped form, the rider PC only needs to be 1 size smaller.
Your equine body is well suited for carrying trusted allies. A PC can ride you if they are one size category smaller than you (Medium size, for most centaurs), rather than needing to be two size categories smaller.
If we are allowed one archetype per class, I am working with the mesmerist died and his power to affect undead helped him reclaim his own body as a reanimated medium.
I have not decided on race yet.
Is the (spirit walker) mesmerist/(reanimated medium) medium a viable option as a character for your campaign?
edited: Reread character creation rules...so also asking if you will allow the mesmerist and medium classes from OA?
I think Myrp hit it...and forced it away from Taumata.
Myrp's Telekintic Hand (without using a focus point) has a range of 60 feet.
Myrp used one focus point to amp the cantrip.
Myrp rolled the random d20 roll, but did not include his spell attack modifier of +6 in the random roll, so AC hit should be 22 instead of 16.
Myrp's non-amped (no focus points) Telekinetic Projectile does 2d6 (plus 1d6 per spell level above 1st).
Of the two baseline amp options for Telekinetic Projectile, only one is viable when casting the spell at a non-heightened spell level, so the 1 focus point that Myrp spent is for the following amp:
Amp: You fling objects with even more force, driving your opponents backwards in a hail of objects. On a success, you push the target 5 feet away from you, and on a critical success, you push the target 10 feet away from you in addition to dealing double damage.
As the 16 was a miss, it seems the 22 might be a success (not a critical success), so looks like Myrp's Mind Toss might have done 9 points of piercing damage to the creature and the force of the branch shoved it 5 feet back (away from Myrp, so one square to the right on the map).
Lia, the map is currently set to 5E (does not take into account every second diagonal counts as 10 feet).
To make the map setting align with PF2E, click on the bottom right icon that reads as 5 feet, then click on the measurement box, then select Alternating Diagonal (D&D 3.5e)
I am thinking of sorcerer with the sylvan bloodline....as fey during the campaign would be the ones that cause him to gain sorcererous powers..."This source can represent a blood relation or an extreme event involving a creature somewhere in the family's past."
The only two feats I already had set for him were Prodigy (craft - armor and weapons) at 1st level and Craft Magic Arms and Armor at 5th level.
with variant multiclass sylvan sorcerer
3rd level: animal companion (as druid 3 levels lower) The type of animal companion depending on what happens in game.
7th level: Woodland Stride
11th level: bloodline feat or Eschew Materials
15th level: Fleeting Glance
19th level: Fey Wings (becoming small size when he sprouts wings)
The animal companion could be an animal that the fey entrusted my character with to see if he can be trusted to look out for the fey and their interests. It could also simply be an animal he befriended, with the 'significant event' being at 7th level when they make it so that he can pass through the fey wilderness without impediment. Story plot hook possibilities worked could be worked in.
With your input regarding having android (most recent soul inhabiting android body) from Numeria....
He was part of a rebel alliance trying to disrupt the Technic League. His group did a heist. It ended badly for most of the group.
Part of what they were doing was trying to steel adamantine, as they had a supplier from outside of Numeria providing them with living steel (the android was the smith) as only adamantine metal weapons are not susceptible to breaking when they strike armor and shields made from living steel.
Three of them escaped Numeria without getting caught - the android smith, the female smuggler (who was the one that was smuggling the living steel in to Numeria for the android smith to craft living steel armor and shields with, and the smuggler's lover, a warrior with a bit of psychic magic ability.
The heist was not a total failure, as they did succeed in stealing a fair bit of adamantine away.
The three of them fled to the Brevoy and bought a small farm north of the Gronzi Forest. The android taught the warrior the art of smithing. Over the next few year the smuggler made connections to keep a steady supply of living steel coming in a few times per year. They lived at the farm in relative anonymity for the next decades...the android, who was already middle-aged when they had fled Numeria, died of natural causes and entered renewal. The smuggler and warrior smith raised the 'newborn' as their son, with the warrior smith training the android the techniques of crafting and ways to read people's tells to deduce their intentions.
As the trio that fled Numeria did not want to risk attracting attention by smuggling in more adamantine, their adamantine supplies ran out. The occasional smuggled in shiphment of living steel they used to help secretly equip the resistance to the Technic League back home.
The last living steel piece the master smith had forged before he died was a masterwork living steel small steel shield.
The first masterwork piece the 'younger' android forged, was with his 'father's guidance (now residing in his consciousness) was the masterwork chain shirt he wears. Note, his chainshirt is made from normal steel, not living steel.
The masterwork living steel small steel shield is wrapped up and in the saddlebag, along with other gear.
For character creation, he could not have left over living steel raw materials....so to our GM, was there just enough living steel left in the smith's secretly stashed supply to forge the small shield, can he take some of the mundance trade goods value as living steel raw materials, or if you like the idea that in time the android spiritualist will be able to forge lving steel armor/shields/weapons, could he have more than 20 gold worth of that.
I am expecting a no. But maybe you like the idea.
I did not read the spoiler, as I am mostly unfamiliar with the Kingmaker campaign plots/details (I have never played the computer game either). I know (and mostly forgot by now) some of the details of the adventure path (something to do with the Vanishing)...
As for the trio that fled Numeria decades ago as part of the resistance against the Technic League...if anyone wants to tie their character (particularly the longer-lived races) who might have known the android when the former soul was still inhabiting it....you might recognize the android (as he appears like he did decades ago when you knew him...renewal and all that. :) You also could be in for a suprise the first time an old companion (the warrior with psychic abilities) is manifested...though he looks much older than the last time you saw him (working with not having seen him since he was in Numeria).
It is late, eyelids are heavy, so there probably are some typing mistakes above.
Teleport
Action: move
Range: rank
Duration: instantaneous
(base) cost: 2 power points per rank
Extras
Accurate (+1 cost/rank)
Easy (+1 cost/rank)
Extended (+1 cost/rank)
Total Cost per rank: 5
Flat-cost Extras
Change Direction (flat 1 cost)
Change Velocity (flat 1 cost)
Turnabout (flat 1 cost)
Increased Mass (8 ranks) (flat 1 cost per rank of Increased Mass extra = 8 points)
Extended extra adds +8 to rank, for rank 21, which is 8,000 miles, which is more than the diameter of the earth, so he can teleport from any point on the surface of the planet to any other point on the surface.
10.9968561 miles + 7,926 miles = 7 936.99686 miles
So were there two mountains on opoosite sides of the Earth at the equator with the same elevation of Mount Everest, he could teleport from mountaintop to mountaintop. :)
He would want to make sure he was wearing winter clothing for that jaunt. :)
basic seeds of non-heroic background: He competed in the Summer Olympics for windsurfing. He also competed in various windsurfing tournaments around the world, and the bulk of his winnings went to purchasing his cutwater speedboat, with enough savings left over to cover his basic living and travel expenses. He does save a lot in gas cost (as once he is past the horizon (from onlookers' perspectives) he teleports his boat (and everyone on it) to somewhere else on the planet.
Complications
Motivation: Thrills
Other complication: Identity
Whereas to a very small niche of fans (windsurfer community) he is well-known, he is far from famous enough for the Fame complication.
He wears a hero costume that conceals his non-heroic identity.
Have not thought of a name for him yet (both his heroic and non-heroic identities).
I have, however, worked a bit on coming up for a name for his cutwater speedboat. His personal 'houseboat', though I have not decided on the name yet. One of the names I jotted down (which will not be the name of the boat) is 'Smurfs Up'. One of the other names I jotted down that might wind up being the name is Splash Pad.
Probably going to be from Australia or New Zealand.
One of the benefits he brings to the team is fast travel across the globe. Should someone else have a land vehicle we can all fit in (that has a gross weight of no more than 6 tons, I can port the vehicle with us in it.
edit: I removed Smurfs Up, and Smurfette did not show up, I put it back in with quotation marks, and she showed back up again.
I wasn't thinking when I posted, I am game with using 3e rules with some skill tweaks. That would probably be much easier for everyone and not cause someone to buy something they may never use again.
My main desire is to try out the rules I listed in my intro and to work with others.
So we can use 3E to make our characters and you will modify them as needed to adjust to the 4e playtst rules [wih the homebew rules you want to use], correct?
I had owlbear open up on a tab overnight - so not positive, but think as long as owner grants permission, the owner of the room does not have to have a tab open on their end for owlbear - as long as they grant permssion whnen they next open owlbear up (for anyone who used the link since last time owner checked the owlbear room).
'campaign trait': Hardly a Fool The android watched his 'adoptive' father for years as he read people's intentions by their face, voice and body language. This is trait is normally a basic (social trait).
race trait: Blood Algorithm His 'parents' would tell him he was hurt, which he did not feel any pain to indicate he was hurt.
basic (social) trait: Amiable Blunder The neighbors and customers are aware that sometimes the blacksmith's apprentice has a tendency to use backhanded compliments without realizing he is doing so. He gets one daily chance to 'adjust his words'.
