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The return of the Occultist.

I like the versatile caster with neat Focus powers and a wide spell pool that can help the party or carry it as need be.

The Thaumaturge (disclosure never played one) is melee focus and doesn't have the versatility of the Occultist. Or the cool name. Making a Witcher doesn't appeal to me.

I'm looking at the Animist but it's not clicking with me just yet. Nice array of swappable abilities but nothing seems strong enough to be decisive when needed.

So bring back the proper Occultist, please and thank you.

Just looked at site…everything sold out for PF2…no sense even going….just wasted $175

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Don't lick the counsel, got it!

Overall, from what I see locally, Paizo's significantly smaller present at conventions (GenCon & Origins in particular) and the traffic I perceive on various websites, it looks like Paizo's sales are down all around.

Extreme speculation based on an insignificant sampling size.

splash damage is not a term defined in the game.

Core rulebook pgs 544 & 637:

splash (trait) When you use a thrown weapon with the splash trait, you don’t add your Strength modifier to the damage roll. If an attack with a splash weapon fails,succeeds, or critically succeeds, all creatures within 5 feet of the target (including the target) take the listed splash damage. On a failure (but not a critical failure),

the target of the attack still takes the splash damage. Add splash damage together with the initial damage against the target before applying the target’s weaknesses or resistances. You don’t multiply splash damage on a critical hit.

For example, if you threw a lesser acid flask and hit
your target, that creature would take 1d6 persistent acid
damage and 1 acid splash damage. All other creatures
within 5 feet of it would take 1 acid splash damage. On
a critical hit, the target would take 2d6 persistent acid
damage, but the splash damage would still be 1. If you
missed, the target would take 1 splash damage. If you
critically failed, no one would take any damage.

It's not spelled out how it would affect spells, but a reasonable connection can be made from provided information.

I haven't been keeping up with the discussion and a search turned up nothing so..

How usable will the spell and equipment decks be after the Remaster? I know the schools are changing as well as some of the names, which will be more of an annoyance than a real issue. Has anything else been revealed that will render some or all of the deck obsolete?

Thanks.

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Source

It looks like quote in question is from here and says fully:

"Players may use any Paizo published books or supplements they own during character creation, provided the options are valid per the Character Options document, Players residing in the same household may share owned resources. Options in the Core Rulebook, the Pathfinder Bestiary (Second Edition), and Lost Omens: World Guide are considered always available resources regardless of ownership."

The bold section is link to the first link in my post.

Oh... and we're really going to need a word for "edicts/anathema" because that's a bit of a mouthful, and a bit awkward in type, too.

axiom

It is a common complaint.

So the event list for Gen Con is up and there are four listings for the special. They all have levels 1-2 in the title but one of them has levels 7-8 in the description. Are the others meant to be for different levels?

Event listing

Too late to suggest Wizards also gain proficiency in a specific martial weapon if they make their Bonded Item? Limit it to a one handed weapon for a little bit of balancing?

(just with more kinds of things than Angels.)

Demons, devils, beings from other myths, and so on. Including non-holy offspring may set people off.

Can we assume pocket editions will be along sooner or later?

Not crazy about the name. Paizo changed phylactery because of it's ties to real life religion, then use Nephilim.

Planar Scion sounds better and covers more of the possible parental choices. Outsider? Plane touched?

Please allow me to reframe the point to help you perceive the lack of malice, antipathy, or callousness you're assuming.

OP asserts the position: Playing PbP requires years before you can accrue enough AcP to afford another AcP-locked ancestry.

Super Zero refutes by relaying their experience: In 10 months of only PbP play, they accrued enough AcP to purchase 2 Rare ancestries, not years.

I never claimed or hinted at malice being involved.

As for the rest, it goes back to the old argument of "it only takes X amount of time to get Y AcP".

Super got enough in 10 months; how many sessions, how often in those ten months? Can CaptainRelyk match that amount of playtime? Not according to their posts. Since it's going to take CaptainRelyk considerably longer, is Super's evidence relevant? To match Super's 10 months CaptainRelyk has to "play more" or GM/play more characters, the "right way" to earn AcP. And if they can't? Sorry, out of Luck.

Will the chromatic and metallic dragons be nixed and redone?

Sorry, what was the point of your comment then?

Three pages before we got to "I have plenty of AcP, so it isn't a problem."

Progress.

I think that the choice of what ancestru is free seems to be arbotary based ob preference. I like poppets, they should be free.

A lot of people in the DnD community mainly played tieflings, and they aren’t going to find PFS fun. They have to spend ACP to make a tiefling character, which kind of sucks especially coming from D&D, whose organized play doesn’t place limits on ancestries but also has tieflings as a base race.

some of the data that Donald demanded.

(As an aside, let’s not assume bad faith arguments of our fellow posters. You can disagree without impugning the character of others.)

I see.

Maybe if you will only play with your favorite Uncommon ancestry, then, yes, building another 40-80 AcP playing only without GMing and only using 1 character created with the initial 80 AcP welcome gift could take quite a while.

But that is a individual choice rather than a function of the game.

If you're playing as much as you're able, why is using one character slower? Getting more points for playing (& GMing) more is a function of the game, or at least the OP system, and the choice of how much you play isn't always in your hands.

Myself in the same post

So no data, just your assumption. Again. Got it.

... since gaining access to uncommon/rare ancestries is the data demonstrated best way to get more people volunteering to GM?

Can link to that data? I don't remember it ever being demonstrated as true.

Yeah, this is a GenCon s*+$show choice vs Paizo doing anything right now. It's incredibly disappointing that GenCon made these choices.

Gen Con did say EOs can request players wear masks at the table, but there is no recourse if they refuse.

Assuming Paizo is getting the Sagamore again, they can make a blanket statement that request everyone in the room wear a mask. Again, it wouldn't be enforceable.

Not to add fuel, but there's a discussion on the Gen Con forums about GM requesting/requiring masks at this year's con, and the official Gen Con forum rep says Gen Con is discussing it and will have an answer next week.

So maybe hold off discussing for now and see what they come up with?

Creature type traits aren't usually capitalized in the rules; see, e.g. Vengeful Hatred (https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=6). Likewise, creature types are not always referred to explicitly as having that trait; see e.g. Favored Enemy (https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=503). That refers simply to "an enemy that belongs to the chosen category". Do you think there is any reasonable interpretation of "belong[ing] to the chosen category" that is *not* "has the corresponding trait"?

Both examples you give have the Trait of the feat in the top material, i.e. Dwarf & Ranger. So if that is what matters for use...

A quick look through doesn't show any worn magic item with the Humanoid trait. So, if you need the Trait to use the item, Humanoids can't use magic items at all.

Saying there's a difference between "creature type" and "type of creature"-- when the rule explicitly refers to one of the creature types-- is quite a stretch.

A search of the CRB comes up with zero hits for "creature type" and "type of creature". Just traits.

And you can't refer to the humanoid trait rules to label something as humanoid that doesn't have the humanoid trait.

Then why is it even in the book?

A simple solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

CBR pg 633

humanoid (trait) Humanoid creatures reason and act much like humans. They typically stand upright and have two arms and two legs.

"worn by humanoids" does not say 'with the Humanoid trait', the pg 633 definition should be enough to cover the item definition.

I was disappointed the low level tables didn't get a boss fight. A necromancer was mentioned, at least we could have gotten an apprentice or some better flunkies.

Interesting. What do they mean by "Rules Reference"?

If I need to look something up in the CRB or on Archives of Nethys during the game, do I get the Treat Wounds benefit?

Character folio, reference or condition card deck, or similar published item with game reference material. Excludes published rulebooks or Adventures.

Sounds like only things you spent money on.

Sorry if I'm being a little dim or blind, but what does the saving throw column mean on the Draconic Exemplars chart?

Thanks.

Are you still looking for these? I tried to send a PM but you don't have it set up.

Flagged.

Although....

Will Paizo have these at their booth at Gen Con?

Flagged.

I take a disproportionately large amount of credit for this happening.

Ah. News about psychics. I thought this thread was about news that was delivered psychically.

I knew you were going to say that.

Maybe a gift for Paizo con?

Nope. Totally lost on this one.

Very late post here, but I think if we're limited to a six level range, it should start at the HIGHEST pregen then go up from there. So PF2 would be 5-11 and starfinder would be 8-13. The specials are when people get to pull out all their cool shiney things and share them.

My group made new characters and used them exclusively for the Pathfinder Specials. I think we al got to lvl 5 with a few restarts and character changes early on.

We're doing the same thing with PF2E.

Thanks. I found an old gencon folder and the saw the 1st ed specials were done by level, I completely forgot that somehow.

The ticket spread will be a problem, but Andrew Bird & Mumford & Son are playing Saturday night at the amphitheater by the ballpark Saturday night, so all may not be lost.

I was checking the event catalog and the PF Special has been split into distinct tickets by levels? In the past there just has been one ticket and level marshaling was done in the Sagamore, but now we have to go after tickets for our level?

This seems overly complicated and the ticket spread very odd as well: Level 1-3 = 36 tickets, level 3-4 = 78 tickets, and levels 5-6 = 162 tickets.

Is this as intended and, if so, what the hell?

Thanks.

Aren't we all skeletons though?

<Angry Leshy noises>

I'm wondering if the OP is referring to the items you get at character creation as mentioned here.

These items are one time gifts and you don't get them again between adventures.

At higher levels being able to project one of their spirits into someone else and control them.

If I see a number of leshy characters at tables….

I did take “tables” to mean at one event, sorry if that wasn’t what you meant.

Still the party make up at one table shouldn’t influence a players perception. It’s possible to sit at a table with five tiefling androids in the current system and HMM had a whole party of Pixies.

As Knight said, you can’t infer the membership of the Pathfinders from one group.

I believe Donald is revering to not having issue with an ancestry. That is their character and their playstyle. And would welcome any to play the game (same or other table) with rather than try to force some kind of rarity ratio.

Correct. X is what you want to play? Great. A whole table of Shony Monks? We'll make it work or die hilariously.

Play time is limited, you should be able to play what you want.

Donald wrote:

Sorry, I don't see how that is a problem. Maybe it's just me but I've never checked out other tables to see what anyone else is playing.

You don't pay attention to what characters other people are playing at your tables? How do you even play the game?

And that is perfectly fine, but in the context of an organized play game, if a new player comes into that group, their thoughts would not be that poppets are extraordinarily rare, but that they fairly common and mundane, at least within the Pathfinder Society. At the very least, it would indicate that a large population of poppets existed within the Society.

The same would go for leshies. If I see a number of leshy characters at tables then that would tell people that leshy are not that rare or that that is some reason a lot of leshies joined the Society. That is the case for leshies though so I don't have that same disconnect.

Sorry, I don't see how that is a problem. Maybe it's just me but I've never checked out other tables to see what anyone else is playing.

(and in both of those cases you can say the PFS created/grew their own.)

And since P2 is just a revision and organized play didn't re-start from scratch, more Ancestries being available makes sense.

New system, new rules.

Revision of an existing system continuing the story line of the previous system. It's not unreasonable to think somethings would be continued forward and not have a hard reboot jimmied in.

And if anything they ended up making the system more accessible because I really can't attend conventions to get boons.

No one has said the Boon system is worse than the previous 'have to GM at a con' system. The question here is the cost of the Boons and the larger question of 70% of the published races being boon only (plus equipment and spells).

It might be fair because in the old system there where “haves” and “have nots” but with the new campaign everyone starts at the same start line and have the opportunity to earn the rewards.

Unfair in regard to the openly available ancestries the came about in those 10 years, Tengu, wayang, and so forth.