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Thank you Nihimon, once again I am in your dept :)
Dear Tyncale, I get that you think all people are actually voting for an ideal mmo which has nothing to do with this game. However, I want to point out that some of this "dreams" may actually interest the developers and they may consider them for implementation, even sometime in the future.
You may think that you have a very clear picture of what this game is shaping to be - but other may have different "dreams", do not agree with your "version" of priorities, do not participate in this forums, and now they found a tool to express them.
We must not forget that we (I for sure) have literally invested hundreds of dollars in this game, so if the developers throw us a "bone" and let us describe how our ideal version of the game would be, then by all means, I'll jump to the chance.
yes please, do clarify
(I've mentioned EVE in two of proposals so if there is any misunderstanding I would love to short it out - for the record I HATE ganking/griefing)
For all Greek speaking people getting ready for Pathfinder Online EE, we have created an online Community "Pathfinder Online Greece" to share news, organize, get together, and find places in Greek Settlements!
Σας περιμένουμε στην παρέα!
Update from the Principal Gods:
In order to create a more viable and better prepared Settlement, the Principal Gods merged their Settlement claim with the Phoenix Brotherhood, and the Torchbearers.
As luck (or fate?)would have it, we represent three Companies active in three different Time zones (US, Oceanic, EU) so our Settlement could be active during all 24 hours!
Meet you there:
Just a bump to the thread, to let any Greek-speaking players that Principal Gods are participating in the Land Rush!!!
We are 6 already, but anyone is welcome to the Parea!
Well, the www.pathfinderonline.com does redirect to goblinworks.com, which is totally dedicated to PFO.
That said, I must agree to n1ghty:
Eldurian Darkrender wrote:
Anyone else notice how the end clip seemed to be a first person view of the player getting knocked down? Hint at a viable first person perspective?
hehe, actually I had exactly the same thought! Too many TESO videos I guess... However, first-person in a pvp game - that would be slaughter.
Anyway, may I remind to all that it would be nice to "Like" the video to YouTube? Let's show our support!
Harad Navar wrote:
My map seems to match theirs fairly well, except my hex grid seems to have a half-hex northward shift. My experience in a past life has me know that different projection datums can cause a pronounced northerly positional shift.
Actually, it depends on the Projections (fore and after).You think they actually used a Datum projection? I would think that the map was created in 2D from the beginning, with no datum involved.
Perhaps the swift has more to do with scaling the "original" map to fit a fixed hex pattern?
Anyway, Harad you have my (our) outmost gratitude for making these!
Great, great, great work!
Ryan Dancey wrote:
wow - THANK YOU Ryan, it's extraordinary to actually be HEARD when commenting on a developing game, and to be ANSWERED ... awesome
Regarding my concerns about monetization, I understand your point, and I'm sure you'll make your best to make them money well spent
hehe you are right :)and please don't get me wrong - I'm THRILLED with the whole process and the neuterism of the community (us) actively helping shape this game as it grows.
I'm just a bit worried that people may drop out after the first months because of the reasons I've mentioned (Not me - I've already pre-paid 14 months after I read the blog :) )
In general I agree, and I have the outmost appreciation for Goblinworks so far!But let's not forget they had declared a 9 month EE and now it is doubled. Also, it is still a paid beta, so I guess people can ask for extra features while paying to help "the seed to grow"
It's good to know the master plan behind the development, and our thanks to Ryan for sharing so many details!
That said, I cannot say that I was thrilled with this blog. It seems we will get to "few" things with the start EE and (worse) we will wait a long time till we get more.
If I am not mistaken, EE will require of us to pay subscription. Some of us may already have 2 or 4 (or more) months free due to our pledge... but 18 months???
EE, especially the first months, seems awfully like an open beta.
My humble request: please reconsider your business plan and your subscription requirements during "open beta" (aka EE) - because if people become disappointed during the long period of the EE and leave the game (and drop their subs), it may hamper the overall development.
Or at least try and deliver as much content and mechanics as possible in the EE (even the first month) so we can feel that we are playing and advancing the characters we want in PFO, not an beta character...
Actually, if you yourself or/and anyone you know and trust has already pledged, I think there is a roundabout way:
Also, while there is no ongoing donation via eg paypal (as other Kickstarter projects do), I think that Ryan has mentioned that there will be in the future another site-based donation with pledges similar to those from Kickstarter (though I guess not with that many "benefits")
I don't know if anybody/some in this thread have played EVE and have seen its Plex system at work... But (though most people were VERY skeptical in the start) it works... and it is not pay to win (although it does give you an advantage).
Brilliant mechanics! I like the solution of drifting towards your core alignment - a great blog overall
However, I also have some questions regarding Settlements:
A great blog entry in all, with depth and a lot of info on mechanics.
The system sounds promising, and I like it already. It is quite interesting to see how concepts from the tabletop game will enter the game (like the 6 second "turn", conditions, etc.)
Now, I still have the concern that the attacks may seem a bit TOO much complicated. We will have to remember all the states, buffs and debuffs and try to act accordingly in 6 secs? And this for all of our attacks?
The whole system screams for extensive beta testing, to test the parameters and all possible action/reaction instances, in order to get a balanced system (let's not forget that there will be a lot of pvp and in case of imbalance people will go for that "best build")
Thank you for the gracious welcome Lord Pagan, and it is nice to be here!
The Principal Gods are honored by the invitation of the Kingdom of Aeternum, and we will commence diplomatic relations shortly
I've added your Guild to the Guild Recruitment & Helpful Links list. If you have a brief description you'd like to appear there to let people know about your guild while they're browsing that list, just PM me or post a clear request here.
Many thanks Lord Nihimon!I'll pm you a brief text to add there, if you please.
Also, The Seventh Veil welcomes you to the community, and extends an offer of Diplomatic Outreach. (Note, this is not an offer for Alliance, just a way to open formal channels for private discussions.)
The Principal Gods hail the esteemed Seventh Veil and formally accept your gracious Offer. From this point onwards consider that a diplomatic channel has commenced with Principal Gods - and may it lead to greater things yet.
I think you may have the distinction of being the first guild committed to a non-English language presence.
Wow - I would think that there already were some German and/or French speaking guilds around! If it's true, then it is nice to be the pioneers in something :)I don't know if our preference to Greek speaking members will actually prove a boon or handicap, but we will be active in the international community of PFO.
With this we would like to offcialy announce to the forums the involvement of Principal Gods with the world of Pathfinder Online!
We are a Greek (only) Casual PvE/PvP (and Light RP) Guild - but First and foremost, we are a Fellowship of Friends, which like to hung out at various MMORPGs together. We have been around since 2009, and have explored various famous fantasy and sci-fi worlds: SWTOR, LotRo, GW2, WoW, EVE, Secret World, Tera - and now waiting for TESO.
It seems we have the honour of being the first Greek Guild to join Pathfinder Online, since we have a Kickstarter Guild pledge we will be there in day 1. Our spots are already covered (and more) - but we can always expand to make room for more Greeks/Cypriots.
If you wish to drop a line or join us –you have to speak Greek, post here or try http://www.principalgods.gr
oh Trust me Mr Andius I'm a pragmatist!I know we will be a small force, and I would greatly enjoy being part of a greater Alliance. Actually, we have already checked out the big guilds and which will be closer to our ingame philosophy.
However, as I pointed out, the game is 1,5 year AWAY and instead of forming alliances I'm rushed into them - because someone is bullying us?
Mr Fulcrum's post may well mean a Game Breaker for me, and as far I'm concerned, for many people of like mentality.
As Mr Southraven (edit: sorry Mr NoeWolfen!) pointed out, Mr Fulcrum may have simply roleplayed his character/guild's edict. But I do not think so.
However, it is my belief that Mr Fulcrum was half-roleplaying/half-intimidating the smaller guilds, justifying future actions in-game on behalf of his Guild and guild mates.
This is, pure and simple, Bullying.
I represent a small guild. We are only seven at the time, because we saw the KS campaign quite late, as most of us are of the MMO crowd and not the PF crowd.
This is a game, not real life. Therefore: If there is a "Stronger eats Weaker" mentality 1,5 year (!!!) before the game even breaths, then I will not try to survive it. I will not try to find a good-aligned Alliance to pay them back.
In case you are not aware of it, many of the sandbox ideas of this game come from EVE. EVE online has not flourished so many years because a new, small corporation (Eve guilds) cannot survive for a month.
I'll be frank - from the moment I read the first post and the rest of the thread and the many "evil" comments, I have been thinking about withdrawing the guild and trying to sell the 6 posts. I'm 40 years old. I face to many "I’m stronger than you" challenges in my everyday family/work life, to stomach them in my game.
My point: All you evil, world-eating guilds, rein your horses. Or you will be left alone, fighting each other, in a game of 500 players. Your loss, not mine.
If you read this far, thank you and sorry for the long post