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Slightly off topic, but has it ever been explained or inferred as to what the relationship between the sinspawn and the caulborn is?
They have such strange forms, but in such similar ways, that one seems to have evolved from the other?
edit: Oh, absolutely love the set ... all about RotRL this spring.

Jason Grubiak |
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The Glabrezu is amazing. I always hated the red waving DDM one. I know the paintjob we will end up with wont look as good as the picture but the sculpt has me drooling.
So this new set will have more minis, and have Huges in it? I know I cannot help myself. I MUST own a case....but I dread and fear how much this case will cost. And if one case isnt enough to get the entire set I'll really cry. I just aint that rich.
Forgive my ignorance...but I havent read RotRL yet. Is Malfeshnekor a Barghest or is he a unique Pathfinder thing?

Aaron aka Itchy |

A case will likely be $250. I am also waiting to find out if multiple cases will be needed to ensure a full set.
Yes. There are Small, Medium, Large, and Huge minis in the set. The Special mini offered to those who purchase a case is Larger than huge, but smaller than Colossal; which leaves Gargantuan. Eric Mona leaked on a prior blog that one of the minis in the set is a Huge White dragon. I can't wait to see that one!
I believe that Malfeshnekor is a Barghest. He looks like a Barghest, anyway.
My question is: What is with the Harpy's hands? She looks like a petite woman with Shaquille O'Neal's hands on her. She could Palm a Basketball (or an adventurers head).

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The Glabrezu is amazing. I always hated the red waving DDM one. I know the paintjob we will end up with wont look as good as the picture but the sculpt has me drooling.
So this new set will have more minis, and have Huges in it? I know I cannot help myself. I MUST own a case....but I dread and fear how much this case will cost. And if one case isnt enough to get the entire set I'll really cry. I just aint that rich.
Forgive my ignorance...but I havent read RotRL yet. Is Malfeshnekor a Barghest or is he a unique Pathfinder thing?
He's a specific greater Bargest, with class levels I believe

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My question is: What is with the Harpy's hands? She looks like a petite woman with Shaquille O'Neal's hands on her. She could Palm a Basketball (or an adventurers head).
You can't really tell from the photo, but she has long, gnarly fingernails that make her hands look bigger than they are.

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I am confused. Is the Rise of the Runelords miniature run going to be another random pack assortment like Heroes and Monsters? Or is there going to be a some effort made that a large purchase, like 1 or even 2 cases, is a complete set of minis for the scripted encounters?
Ummmm... both?
It's going to be a random pack assortment, but as with Heroes & Monsters, we're going to try to get you an estimate of how many cases you'll need to buy to more or less ensure* a complete set.
* Not a guarantee, but we'll try real hard to make it as easy to collect as possible. Look to Heroes & Monsters for an idea of what we're shooting for.

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Malfeshnekor is a Advanced Greater Barghest, no class levels.
Also, I dont remember my PCs encountering harpys, a glabrezu, or a large red dragon in any of the first three books of RotR. Either you guys are seriously redoing the AP, or this set isnt just for the first three books.
Please tell me this set isnt just for the first three books. :P

Ian RVA |

Erik, These look great. I am concerned about your statement It probably goes without saying, but this guy is a rare. Does this mean I will get 3 in a case like Seelah or Ogre? That would be great! I only got 1 Orc Warrior and that is a "common." Not so great. This has been addressed in other threads but rares don't actually seem all that rare. Is that going to remain the case with future sets?
Also, Is there a chance we'll get new variations of skeletons and goblins and zombies and "common" monsters that GM's need more of?

Jason Grubiak |

Malfeshnekor is a Advanced Greater Barghest, no class levels.
Also, I dont remember my PCs encountering harpys, a glabrezu, or a large red dragon in any of the first three books of RotR. Either you guys are seriously redoing the AP, or this set isnt just for the first three books.
Please tell me this set isnt just for the first three books. :P
Thanks for the info on Malfeshnekor.
Well it was confirmed that Huge White Dragon and Yeti are also in the set...so it definitly isnt just the first 3 books.

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Erik, These look great. I am concerned about your statement It probably goes without saying, but this guy is a rare. Does this mean I will get 3 in a case like Seelah or Ogre? That would be great! I only got 1 Orc Warrior and that is a "common." Not so great. This has been addressed in other threads but rares don't actually seem all that rare. Is that going to remain the case with future sets?
Also, Is there a chance we'll get new variations of skeletons and goblins and zombies and "common" monsters that GM's need more of?
The Large "rares" in a case will likely be repeated, since there are, generally speaking, fewer larges in a brick than medium boosters. I've brought WizKids attention to the case-cracking thread here, but I honestly don't expect major collation changes between the sets to kick in this rapidly.
That said, those fine details have not been decided for Rise of the Runelords yet, so I don't want to share my assumptions that I may later have to revisit.
As for the "common" creatures, this set includes several more goblins, but does not include any skeletons or zombies. There are a few other "regular" undead coming, though.

Berik |
These look great, especially the young red dragon, yeti and treachery demon. I'm a bit torn now since I'm really keen to see the white dragon and the other figures which are going to be revealed. But I avoided looking at any images past the first reveal for Heroes & Monsters and really enjoyed that I was seeing a lot of the figures for the first time when I opened my brick... Not a bad problem to be given though!

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Tell me more about this new-ish GI Joe on your desk...
It's a Zartan from the latest batch of releases. I collected GI Joes as a little kid, and keep looking at them when I go to Target. I haven't really been tempted to buy any of them for more than a decade, but this latest batch is celebrating some kind of anniversary (30th?), and so they're revisiting some of the classic characters.
I got Zartan and a Cobra soldier, and they both look pretty awesome.
Not as awesome as the Treachery Demon, but still good.

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Is there any particular reason you are calling the demon a "Treachery Demon" instead of a "Glabrezu Demon?"
Not that it matters much; the mini will look the same. I'm just curious.
IANE, but I suspect that it is so they don't have to slap the OGL on every pack. Everything in H&M and revealed in this post was generically enough named or pulled from mythology that they didn't hit stuff that had been made up by D&D over the last thirtyish years. Glabrezou, not so much...

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Tamago wrote:IANE, but I suspect that it is so they don't have to slap the OGL on every pack. Everything in H&M and revealed in this post was generically enough named or pulled from mythology that they didn't hit stuff that had been made up by D&D over the last thirtyish years. Glabrezou, not so much...Is there any particular reason you are calling the demon a "Treachery Demon" instead of a "Glabrezu Demon?"
Not that it matters much; the mini will look the same. I'm just curious.
Correct—Pathfinder Battles are not published under the OGL.

Shivok |

Damn too bad my players are fighting Karzoug this coming Thursday. I bought 2 cases and got complete sets on both cases. Hopefully you'll have a gargantuan is alli'm sying. I had to buy some Mcfarlane-Conan figues to get big enough stand-ins (and they didint really look good).
The battles encounter pack shows your listening to us and I love this. So I'll start putting away money for 2 more cases, before my wife finds out! LOL!

Aaron aka Itchy |

Aaron aka Itchy wrote:A case will likely be $250.It's a bit too early to making statements like that. *We* don't know yet, so we know *you* don't know yet.
Apologies :( I assumed that since Heroes and Monsters was $250/case that this set would be as well. And we all know what happens when you make assumptions...
They get spread around as "fact" by forum posters 3 months down the road.

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Apologies :( I assumed that since Heroes and Monsters was $250/case that this set would be as well. And we all know what happens when you make assumptions...
They get spread around as "fact" by forum posters 3 months down the road.
But the fact that the larger set may force larger than one figure per pack, who knows that final cost?

Berk the Black |

At first I wasn't sure about the bugbear. But after taking a close up look, he has a lot of potential. I hope that like with the goblins and orcs, we can expect to see a few more of these guys pop up in future sets.
Six mini's in one review, does that mean the release date is going to be moved up to April? :)

Brinebeast |

The Treachery Demon is a treachery demon, from the Pathfinder Bestiary (where he goes by a different name).
Hmm, is there a list somewhere of what monsters do not have "open" names. It would be nice to have a conversion guide for both the Minis and Novels.
That way if I see "Treachery Demon" I can look at the conversion guide and see that: Treachery Demon is found on pg.XXX of the Bestiary
or
Hell Spawn/Fiend Spawn is found on pg.XXX of the Bestiary