Is there a way to use Wisdom for Use Magic Device?


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The Wisdom in the Flesh trait allows you to use Wisdom for one Strength/Dexterity/Constitution based skill, I was wondering if anyone knew of a trait (or indeed ability) that would allow me to use Wisdom for a Charisma skill – specifically Use Magic Device?

Many thanks!


Adventure Path Charter Subscriber

yeah, i'd like to know if there's a way, too.

Grand Lodge

No there isn't. Not among Paizo materials, that is.


Getting X to Y

Sadly, it doesn't look like Wis to UMD is possible.

Wisdom in the Flesh lets you take an Str, Dex, or Con-based skill and use Wisdom with it instead.

Clever Wordplay is an all-around way to get Int instead of Cha on UMD, among a number of other skills, but there isn't a flat Wis equivalent.

Scarab Sages

Personally, I'd rather go with pragmatic activator instead of clever wordplay, because I'm sure clever wordplay was intended for social skills only.

You could just keep it CHA based, and get the equivalent boost via taking skill focus, magical aptitude, and dangerously curious.

Grand Lodge

Pragmatic Activator uses up your magic trait, and chances are if you're wanting "int to skill" then you probably already have a use for your magic trait.

Scarab Sages

Exactly. Int to UMD is far more useful than Int to Bluff/Diplomacy/Intimidate. Not to mention it doesn't make sense for a social trait about clever wordplay to apply to UMD.

Grand Lodge

Imbicatus wrote:

Exactly. Int to UMD is far more useful than Int to Bluff/Diplomacy/Intimidate. Not to mention it doesn't make sense for a social trait about clever wordplay to apply to UMD.

Maybe to you since you're an UMD junkie. But if you're perhaps a Bard or Rogue who'd like extra skills on top of what you already get, Int to Social skills is a godsend.

Scarab Sages

Just to be clear, I'm not a UMD junkie and I don't have a problem with INT to UMD or INT to Social Skills. I just think it should be a magic trait for Int to UMD, and the social trait should be left for the social skills.

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