Pathfinder Battles Preview: Short Blog, Big Dragon

Yeah but it is a Shemahazian, it is an iconic paizo demon, it come sup in adventures a fair bit and well...its a Shemhazian (I really like the Shamhazian in case you're wondering) :)

I agree on the Shemhazian. I find this creature to really stand out in terms of design and uniqueness, compared to many other gargantuan creatures, and to me it is an iconic paizo Demon ,like say, Orcus is from D&D.

Generally, it would be cool to see Gargantuan miniatures exclusive to paizo creatures that are unique and cannot be found elsewhere in the market in similar designs.

I agree on the Shemhazian. I find this creature to really stand out in terms of design and uniqueness, compared to many other gargantuan creatures, and to me it is an iconic paizo Demon ,like say, Orcus is from D&D.

Generally, it would be cool to see Gargantuan miniatures exclusive to paizo creatures that are unique and cannot be found elsewhere in the market in similar designs.

And this, right here is why I favor seeing the 4 Gargantuans from the Inner Sea bestiary (Even the Annhilator Robot, especially the robot since it is such an Iconic Image of the region) before we get another Dragon.

Well rejoice because the next ones been confirmed to be something other than a dragon. I like the shemhazian a lot and would not be dissapointed at all if it was what we got, I just think its unlikely because Erik said prolly no more demons for a while. Maybe he's just trying to throw us off to surprise us:) If we see all 4 gargantuans from inner sea bestiary before a red dragon ima be pretty upset though. None of my games incoreperate any of those monsters to the degree they do dragons. I wouldn't mind having the shemhazian first though

Well rejoice because the next ones been confirmed to be something other than a dragon. I like the shemhazian a lot and would not be dissapointed at all if it was what we got, I just think its unlikely because Erik said prolly no more demons for a while. Maybe he's just trying to throw us off to surprise us:) If we see all 4 gargantuans from inner sea bestiary before a red dragon ima be pretty upset though. None of my games incoreperate any of those monsters to the degree they do dragons. I wouldn't mind having the shemhazian first though

Maybe all 4 from the Inner Sea Bestiary and the Shemahazian would be a bit much, but 2 non-dragons would be a nice change-up. Out of 7 sets to date, 5 have had a Dragon as an Incentive (Huge Black, Garg. Blue, Brinebones, Garg. Green, and with RoW, Garg. White) only the Rune Giant and Deskari break the pattern. DDM Iconics line Did 3 Garg. Dragons (Black, Blue and White) and one Col.+ (Red) and only 1 non-dragon (Orcus) before its cancellation. I'm just worried by the trend of a "We need a really big monster to capstone this, I've got it a Dragon! Now which one haven't we made yet . . ." Pathfinder has such a rich diversity of monsters in all size ranges, it just seems a shame to fall back to the 'old stand-by' of a Dragon. Don't get me wrong here, I like Dragons and own all the current Case Incentives and the D&D Iconics (And at least one of each Huge from DDM, the 4 from Mage Knight 1.0, Fin Fang Foom, and around 30 more that Proxy well in the game) I am just speaking in favor of a little more diversity is all.

Another unrelated idea I'm going to toss out to Mr. Mona. How about doing a Huge critter as a 'Brick incentive'? Something you can use more than one of, so people who buy a case can get 4 without feeling upset.
Just a thought.

The next Gargantuan is NOT A DRAGON.

I haven't decided what the one after that will be, yet.

Feel free to provide suggestions. Assume that the theme of the set is pretty straightforward dungeon adventuring, as a thought experiment.

Gargantuan ooze/shoggoth translucent with a hatch on top to stick medium sized minis into.

The Gelatinous Cube put out by Wizards of the Coast could be opened up from the base so you could stick victims inside. That was a great feature. But after all was said and done, it was only 2" x 2". A huge or gargantuan version similar to this would be great.

That's a good point Leo_Negri, I didn't realize that 5 of the 7 sets had dragons for gargantuans. I guess I see where yur coming from when you put it that way. In that case I hope we get the shemhazian and the purple worm, red dragon after that

@Berk I'd like a large and a huge version of that myself, but wouldn't care much for a gargantuan one

How about a gargantuan Lion/Tiger? because my 13th level cleric with Animal Domain was thinking of taking a level in Mammoth Rider...so when that Huge sized Animal Companion gets "Righteous Might" shared with it...

But seriously, one interesting candidate from Jade Regent would be the Gravebound Warden, though a Linnorm would be also

How about a gargantuan Lion/Tiger? because my 13th level cleric with Animal Domain was thinking of taking a level in Mammoth Rider...so when that Huge sized Animal Companion gets "Righteous Might" shared with it...

But seriously, one interesting candidate from Jade Regent would be the Gravebound Warden, though a Linnorm would be also

I realize you are saying this sort of tongue-in-cheek, but I suggest that you check out Papo, Schleich or Safari Ltd. lines of animals. There are plenty to choose from, and most serve well as Huge or Gargantuan miniatures. The post on the last page with all the links to dinosaurs and gargantuan crocodiles were also very helpful.

I know I've pushed for more animal miniatures in the more common medium and large sizes, but that is because I've found it hard to find stand-ins for those creatures that come close to scale. But most Huge animals and above are covered by the three companies I named.

Later tonight I'll post a list of all the animals I've used from those lines that might help people.

If the set Erik is still deciding on a gargantuan for is indeed comprised of many more dungeon-esque type creatures, I wonder if a large Gelatinous Cube and or other type of of ooze has been chosen. I would almost have to belief an ooze of some sort is a near requirement for a dungeon and/or cave, right?

I realize that there are people on these boards that LOVE the Robot thing. I hope that at some point you get your own line, because I think that would be fun for many of you. It would also allow me to skip a line and put my money elsewhere. (I'm looking at you, yearly Colossal).

I do hope that if a Robot-heavy line comes out, such as for the Iron Gods or whatever Adventure Path comes after Mummy's Mask, the Gargantuan piece is also a Robot. That would likely appease you Robot fans, right? And hopefully it would mean we didn't have to see a Robot gargantuan in another set. Everybody wins, right?

i would like some oozes and other gelatinous monsters, but prefer huge or lower

An idea for a garg dungeon themed mini would be a Construct of some kind or a Red dragon, for iconic dungeon creature.A Shamizan demon or Linorm would be my personal choice. And if you realy want to go head to head against D&Ds mini that will realese a garg Tiamat, you should go collosal with a Ctuhlu or Tarrasque, all those would sell like crazy. Good idea?

An idea for a garg dungeon themed mini would be a Construct of some kind or a Red dragon, for iconic dungeon creature.A Shamizan demon or Linorm would be my personal choice. And if you realy want to go head to head against D&Ds mini that will realese a garg Tiamat, you should go collosal with a Ctuhlu or Tarrasque, all those would sell like crazy. Good idea?

wizkids made a pretty awesome colossal cthulhu already. i got pretty lucky and got mine for $100. unfortunately they want yur soul for one now. as much as id like to see a colossal red dragon, ive no problem with the first one being a tarrasque. everyone seems to want that one pretty bad and i don't blame them. id hope to get a colossal red after that though, if we ever even get colossal. erik disappeared after we started talking about a release of them once a year lol. i reckon he don't want to break our hearts

Among Gargantuans, I'm most interested in the Shemhazian or Roc.

But I'm going to throw out another idea.

What about a 2-pack of Huges similar to the RoW encounter set.

There are far more cool Huge non-dragon monsters, IMO, and I would welcome an additional way to have them released.

For a dungeon-based set, it could be a way to get the Elementals people have been asking for. Or an Aboleth and a Froghemoth. Or a Black Pudding and a Hydra. Or a pair of Golems. Or...

Among Gargantuans, I'm most interested in the Shemhazian or Roc.

But I'm going to throw out another idea.

What about a 2-pack of Huges similar to the RoW encounter set.

There are far more cool Huge non-dragon monsters, IMO, and I would welcome an additional way to have them released.

For a dungeon-based set, it could be a way to get the Elementals people have been asking for. Or an Aboleth and a Froghemoth. Or a Black Pudding and a Hydra. Or a pair of Golems. Or...

+1

Among Gargantuans, I'm most interested in the Shemhazian or Roc.

But I'm going to throw out another idea.

What about a 2-pack of Huges similar to the RoW encounter set.

There are far more cool Huge non-dragon monsters, IMO, and I would welcome an additional way to have them released.

For a dungeon-based set, it could be a way to get the Elementals people have been asking for. Or an Aboleth and a Froghemoth. Or a Black Pudding and a Hydra. Or a pair of Golems. Or...

Just got this one myself and I wouldn't be mad at another 2 or 3 of these a year.

Granted I wouldn't be mad at an additional Evolutions set or 2 a year either. Now here is a product where Dragons shine, three sizes, one creature, and consistent sculpts across the board. I Have both the Red and White ones and the Gargantuan White looks like a good match for the White Dragon Evolution Set. Here's hoping, if and when they get to Green and Blue they Match-up with the existing Gargantuan pieces nicely, and that WHEN a Gargantuan Red is produced the reverse is also true and that it matches the existing evolution set. That was one of the things in the DDM line and their Iconics line that irked me, there was little consistency in the styles and proportions between their sculpts (Most noticeable among the Reds and Blues, though Green, Black, and White were all over the map in scale, proportion, and style as well.)

Wow! That gargantuan white is simply AMAZING!! I cannot wait to add him to my PF Battles collection of "big"iatures ("big" miniatures) ;)

I'll echo the Shemhazian demon ... and of course additional dragons (even others types, like the aforementioned metallics, but also the imperial or planar dragons as well), linnorms, purple worm, neothelid, some of the dinosaurs that are gargantuan would be cool ... but I think I heard those would be unlikely (which is a shame).

And what about the Spawn of Rovagug? (Or were those colossal)?

If you are going to do a Jade Regent PF Battles set (and I truly hope you are) then the case incentive should most certainly be an underworld imperial dragon

Well that's my two coppers. :)

NO! There people go suggesting oozes again...

NO! There people go suggesting oozes again...

Would you remind me again why it is you are so vehemently against ooze miniatures? I'll not pretend to be enamored with them, but I would like to see a few of the more interesting ooze types find their way to the miniature world. And if this future line in particular focuses heavily on a dungeon and/or cave theme, I can't think of a better line to include more than one ooze miniature.

I wouldn't want to see any potential gargantuan or colossal slot used on an ooze anytime soon. But getting a couple small, medium, large and huge oozes over the next few years wouldn't be so horrible. Besides, some of the artwork on the oozes is spectacular.

As someone who sells minis on Ebay, let me tell you that G-cubes are still very much in demand. But I agree with you (Brocimus) at least so far as to say that I'd rather see stuff other than G-cubes. As I've said, a range of black puddings would be very cool, although I also can think of ways to make them for myself. (Glue gun, I'm looking at you :-)