Sanctioning Adventure Paths for Pathfinder Society

Monday, December 10, 2012



Adventure Paths are the staple item here at Paizo. Since the inception of Pathfinder Society Organized Play, some people have wanted to play the Adventure Paths and receive credit for their Pathfinder Society characters. This is one of the few bullet-list items I have been trying to figure out since I arrived 15 months ago. The release of the Shattered Star Adventure Path and its close ties to the Pathfinder Society made it even more imperative that we find a way to include Adventure Paths in sanctioned Organized Play. We feel it's the right thing to do, both from a business perspective and as a way of making even more material available for event organizers and players who've gone through what we already produced and are chomping at the bit for more.

Over the past few months, we have dedicated a large percentage of our weekly Pathfinder Society meetings to make sure we have the best formula for as seamless a fit as possible in sanctioning Adventure Paths. We could not find an easy solution to allow play through an entire Adventure Path, or to easily port a character in and out of a specific volume of an Adventure Path. With the feedback of our Venture-Officers, we think we have a system that can appeal to the widest audience.

The solution we've landed on is treating one section of a Pathfinder Adventure Path volume like a module. It would generally be played over one to three sessions, and grant 3 XP, 4 PP, and a level-dependent amount of gp. An example you will find on the first Chronicle sheet is from the first installment of Rise of the Runelords, Burnt Offerings. When you play through areas C1 through E10 of Thistletop, your GM may assign you the Chronicle sheet for Burnt Offerings.

If possible, all players must use an existing Pathfinder Society character (without modification) within 1 level of the starting level of the sanctioned content from a Pathfinder Adventure Path. In the example used above for Burnt Offerings, you would use a 3rd-, 4th-, or 5th-level character.

For Adventure Path content below 9th level, if you do not have a character in the correct level range, you may use a Pathfinder Society pregenerated character or the Iconics found in the NPC Codex. If you play a 1st-level pregenerated character, you may apply the credit from that character to a newly created character of your very own, with the gp gained reduced to 1,398 gp (or 699 gp for slow advancement track characters). If you play a non-1st-level pregenerated character, you may apply the credit to your character as soon as she reaches the level of the pregenerated character played. Equipment listed on the pregenerated character sheet may only be sold to clear conditions, such as death, during the play of the module and any remaining wealth does not carry over at the end of the module.

Alternatively, if you are participating in a Pathfinder Adventure Path with an ongoing home group undertaking the entire campaign, you may receive credit for playing the sanctioned portions of the adventure as if you had played a pregenerated character. In this case, GMs running the Adventure Path are not bound to the rules of the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign when running the campaign or the sanctioned portion of the adventure. Pathfinder Society characters and characters from an ongoing Adventure Path campaign may not play in the same adventure.

If a character dies and is brought back to life, the GM must determine the rewards for that character. The minimum possible reward is 0 gp, 1 XP, and 1 PP on the medium advancement track or 0 gp, 1/2 XP, and 1/2 PP on the slow advancement track. If a character participates in more than two-thirds of the sanctioned content of an Adventure Path, she should receive the full rewards. GMs and active players are encouraged to hasten the return of any characters waiting to be raised from the dead.

Players who do not complete each game session earn 1/3 fewer gp, 1 fewer XP, and 1 fewer Prestige Point for each session missed. This also applies to players who join later sessions; they receive 1/3 fewer gp, 1 fewer XP, and 1 fewer Prestige Point for each session missed. In both cases, players earn a minimum of 1/3 gp, 1 XP, and 1 Prestige Point.

As always, each player may receive credit for each sanctioned Adventure Path volume once as a player and once as a GM, in either order. Players must accept Chronicle sheets for their characters the first time they play any sanctioned content. A player may replay a sanctioned Adventure Path at the GM’s discretion, but the player may not receive more than one Chronicle sheet per adventure. The only exception is Tier 1–2 sanctioned Adventure Path content. A player may only play a Tier 1–2 sanctioned Adventure Path for credit once with a 2nd-level character, but may use additional 1st-level characters to replay the same content for credit.

Since sanctioned Adventure Paths can be multi-session events, a Pathfinder Society character may not be used in other Pathfinder Society events until the character receives a Chronicle sheet for the Adventure Path volume. GMs are advised to work with players who miss the final session of the module or AP in order for those players to receive their Chronicle sheets.

The data entry system has already been updated to include all 10 of the current sanctioned Adventure Path volumes. Data is entered into our reporting system in the same manner as sanctioned modules. You receive credit toward GM stars the same as sanctioned modules.

The Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play, Version 4.3, scheduled for release next month, will update Chapter 6 with all info about sanctioned Adventure Paths and how they work within Pathfinder Society.

Initially, we are only sanctioning Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition and Shattered Star Adventure Paths. If those are well received, we will consider sanctioning other Adventure Paths in the future. You can find the rules for running these in Pathfinder Society Organized Play and the Chronicle sheets on their respective product pages.

We are excited with the solution that this not only expands normal Pathfinder Society play options, but also increases play opportunities past 12th level. We hope that this will also allow players who enjoy our Adventure Paths, but have not yet experienced Pathfinder Society, to give our organized play a try.

We understand there are a lot of very strong opinions among the player base about whether we should sanction Adventure Paths and how they should be implemented. We value your opinions and look forward to reading your thoughts about the exciting new play options we have introduced today. With your input, we can make Pathfinder Society better for all.

Mike Brock
Pathfinder Society Campaign Coordinator

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Dark Archive 4/5

Sanctioning the AP segments as they release (or shortly thereafter) is a really strong idea. Rise of the Runelords was a wise choice, as it's the iconic adventure path, of course, but missing the chance to continue what could be a very lucrative trend (from a player's, DM's, and store owner's perspective) strikes me as very strange.

There are a number of people that have come into the shop and asked about AP sanctioning. They don't want to plop down $50-60 for RotR, and Shattered Star is selling out at a couple of the warehouses already - the early chapters, at any rate. Second Darkness has a ton of requests (we have 2 ongoing tables of it, actually) with Kingmaker immediately behind it, though I can see how Kingmaker wouldn't get the full sanctioning treatment.

The Reign of Winter AP has yet to generate any true interest, and I attribute this to addition of AP sanctioning but not applying it to the new products.

The Exchange 5/5

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

its a lot to read through, just trying to figure out the part for receiving credit in a home game w/o pfs legal characters. it says you "receive credit for playing the sanctioned portions of the adventure as if you had played a pregenerated character."

so for the 3-5, or 4-6 tier stuff you get credit at 4th level as if you played with a 4th level pregen, but what about for tier 8-10, 12-14 etc? can a player apply that to their character and receive it at the low end of the tier? or apply the credit to an existing 9th or 13th level character respectively?

Grand Lodge 4/5

No, for the 3-5, if you play it as a home game, you get the credit at either 3rd level, or your PFS PC's actual level if it is 4th or 5th level. The same holds true for any and all AP chronicles earned while playing in a home game.

Credit for players is handled in much the same fashion as GM credit is handled already.

Scarab Sages 4/5

warfteiner wrote:

Sanctioning the AP segments as they release (or shortly thereafter) is a really strong idea. Rise of the Runelords was a wise choice, as it's the iconic adventure path, of course, but missing the chance to continue what could be a very lucrative trend (from a player's, DM's, and store owner's perspective) strikes me as very strange.

There are a number of people that have come into the shop and asked about AP sanctioning. They don't want to plop down $50-60 for RotR, and Shattered Star is selling out at a couple of the warehouses already - the early chapters, at any rate. Second Darkness has a ton of requests (we have 2 ongoing tables of it, actually) with Kingmaker immediately behind it, though I can see how Kingmaker wouldn't get the full sanctioning treatment.

The Reign of Winter AP has yet to generate any true interest, and I attribute this to addition of AP sanctioning but not applying it to the new products.

This is absolutely how players feel locally for me as well. PFS is so popular here that when I mentioned possibly running Reign of Winter in a couple months, the first question that several people have asked me was if they would get PFS credit for it. When I told them no, they seemed slightly less interested. I'm sure I could still round up enough players to get a game going, but I can tell that Paizo would receive much more interest in the new APs if they sanctioned them as they came out.

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I do intend to run my home group through RotRL and a few of the player will grab PFS credit. However I'm not quite midway through Serpent Skull, so it will be a while before we can get to it. Hence I'd hate to see a lack of reporting kill the program. I fully intend to participate, but I'm not going to can a current campaign to jump on this.

I will say I kind of like the idea of a generic AP credit system as a suggestion. That would be appreciably easier in terms of work on the PFS campaign staff end.

5/5

Another thought: Since there's no retroactive reporting, people might want to hold off on new APs until they get sanctioned, which will (1) delay reporting information and (2) possibly delay sales.

Maybe just set it up so that new things only can be run in "home game" mode for now--so people who want credit can report them, but with the understanding that chronicles won't be produced until (and if) critical mass is hit, whatever that critical mass might be. This works because "home game" mode functions like GM credit, so once those chronicles come out they can be assigned to whichever characters can use them at the time. (Yes, that will require the GMs editing the reporting to reflect character numbers, but so what? GMs who are willing to report in a situation like this are already aware they're doing non-standard reporting.)

Thoughts?

5/5

Paizo folks, I know you've mentioned in the past that sanctioning a new AP requires a certain amount of work. I'm wondering if you could quantify that for us? I don't know what goes in to a process like that, so I'm picturing "decide on the section, make a list of equipment, add a boon or such, format Chronicle, publish" which I don't think would take more than an hour or two per book (therefore per month), which seems a worthwhile investment in increasing interest in a flagship product. But maybe there's more that goes in to it?

Scarab Sages 4/5

Patrick Harris @ SD wrote:
Paizo folks, I know you've mentioned in the past that sanctioning a new AP requires a certain amount of work. I'm wondering if you could quantify that for us? I don't know what goes in to a process like that, so I'm picturing "decide on the section, make a list of equipment, add a boon or such, format Chronicle, publish" which I don't think would take more than an hour or two per book (therefore per month), which seems a worthwhile investment in increasing interest in a flagship product. But maybe there's more that goes in to it?

I'm certain that it takes more time than that, but I wouldn't be pushing to get Reign of Winter and future APs sanctioned as they come out if I didn't think that the extra effort was worth it. As you said, they'd only need to sit down and go through the process once/month if they keep up with it. And they do have a brand new person devoted to PFS. . . .

Grand Lodge 4/5 Pathfinder Society Campaign Coordinator

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At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.

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Yay! I think this is a very good call. The data gathered from this is going to be a lot more useful in the long run.

4/5

Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.

Awesome news--that must mean the AP sanctioning experiment is going well so far!

I know it's early for this yet and also a spoiler for Part 5, so I'll block it but--

Part 5 of Reign of Winter:
I would be very happy if there was not a boon (or chronicle access or the like) on the Part 5 sheet that allowed the characters to bring back stuff from WWI Earth to use in PFS, particularly advanced firearms, but I completely understand your reasoning if you decide to go that route, and in truth the level is so high on it anyway that it will only affect a handful of games.

5/5

Rogue Eidolon wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

what

I thought this had to be a joke, so I looked at the product description, and ...

... now I think that has to be a joke, instead.

I just ...

what

Edit: Looked at the product thread. Apparently this is really happening. Okay. Well. Okay then.

Silver Crusade 2/5 RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16

Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.

That is an EXCELLENT call! There will be SO MANY people wanting to play it now, especially to get to that last book and go after you-know-who!

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Patrick Harris @ SD wrote:
Rogue Eidolon wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

what

I thought this had to be a joke, so I looked at the product description, and ...

... now I think that has to be a joke, instead.

I just ...

what

Edit: Looked at the product thread. Apparently this is really happening. Okay. Well. Okay then.

Heh, I figured the people asking for the sanction in this thread were the ones who knew about that and wanted it. It's actually the reason I figured they were hesitating on sanctioning it. [tongueincheek]What have you unleashed, Patrick?[/tongueincheek]

Scarab Sages 4/5

Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.

Wow, I am so excited by this news. Thanks for the quick reply Mike. I really hope it works out and the numbers start to roll in as Reign of Winter is released over the next several months. I know I'll be trying my best to participate this summer.

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Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Heh, I figured the people asking for the sanction in this thread were the ones who knew about that and wanted it. It's actually the reason I figured they were hesitating on sanctioning it. [tongueincheek]What have you unleashed, Patrick?[/tongueincheek]

Just as a matter of routine I don't read scenario/mod descriptions until I've played the (or am about to run them). I mean I do when something comes up (like so) but I don't go looking otherwise; I like to be surprised whenever possible. I was advocating sanctioning because I think it's a good idea; I trust that every product Paizo releases is worth it.

And I still have that trust! I just, you know, needed a minute. ;D

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Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.

Hooray! Mike, did the chronicle sheet for Part 6 of Shattered Star get fixed already? Or is it going to with this update?

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/5 *

CRobledo wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.
Hooray! Mike, did the chronicle sheet for Part 6 of Shattered Star get fixed already? Or is it going to with this update?

Drat.. I was hoping for Skull and Shackles next! I wanted some firearm boons!

Shadow Lodge 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 ***** Contributor

Thomas Graham wrote:
CRobledo wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.
Hooray! Mike, did the chronicle sheet for Part 6 of Shattered Star get fixed already? Or is it going to with this update?
Drat.. I was hoping for Skull and Shackles next! I wanted some firearm boons!

As much as I'd be 200% for Skull and Shackles myself, I am even more % in favor of sanctioning APs as they're released. We can lobby for Skull and Shackles after Reign of Winter proves that sanctioning APs is a solid way to go :)

Verdant Wheel 4/5

Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.

Thank you very much! I am so happy. I know that with Wraith of the Righteous being Mythic, it would be too tough to sanction that so proabilly Reign of Winter will be it for now, but i really believe that the sancioned APs have enough time to prove themselves. Thank you vey much again.

Paizo Employee 5/5 Associate Publisher

Really glad to hear this.

I'm running a group of local PFS folks through Shattered Star alongside some non-PFS folks. Having chronicles available helps me get the PFS crowd even more interested (not that they needed it), but also opens up organized play to my non-PFS folks.

Hopefully we can see this as a standard moving forward! :)

Scarab Sages 4/5

Hebert Ricardo Magno wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.
Thank you very much! I am so happy. I know that with Wraith of the Righteous being Mythic, it would be too tough to sanction that so proabilly Reign of Winter will be it for now, but i really believe that the sancioned APs have enough time to prove themselves. Thank you vey much again.

I didn't realize Wrath of the Righteous would have Mythic stuff built in but there's no reason they can't just sanction the dungeons, etc. in the same way they're sanctioning the other APs. Right now you can play RotR/SS/Reign of Winter with Mythic rules as your own homebrew rules and apply the credit to a PFS character. Your campaign character doesn't have to be PFS legal after all.

Sovereign Court 1/5

Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.

Fantastic! Now I just need to... somehow... create time to play!!!

Grand Lodge 4/5

Mike Tuholski wrote:
Hebert Ricardo Magno wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
At the PFS meeting today, we have decided to sanction Reign of Winter. We aren't able to get the Chronicle sheet for part 1 completed by the time Additional Resources is updated tomorrow, but expect it to be available in the next few weeks. Additionally, we will be sanctioning the other 5 parts with Additional Resources as they are released each month.
Thank you very much! I am so happy. I know that with Wraith of the Righteous being Mythic, it would be too tough to sanction that so proabilly Reign of Winter will be it for now, but i really believe that the sancioned APs have enough time to prove themselves. Thank you vey much again.
I didn't realize Wrath of the Righteous would have Mythic stuff built in but there's no reason they can't just sanction the dungeons, etc. in the same way they're sanctioning the other APs. Right now you can play RotR/SS/Reign of Winter with Mythic rules as your own homebrew rules and apply the credit to a PFS character. Your campaign character doesn't have to be PFS legal after all.

I think the issue that has Draco concerned is not that the PCs are using Mythic rules, but that the treasures and boons would wind up needing to use the Mythic rules as well. And PFS isn't really designed to handle much in the way of Mythic additions, since they affect power levels and introduce rules not used in PFS.

Liberty's Edge 5/5

I've said it before and I'll restate it again. I love this. My players in my Shattered Star game have been very enthusiastic about applying the bonuses so far to characters and we are itching to start up a Rise of the Rune Lords either concurrent or after this because of its link to PFS.

As for other APs I reckon Serpent Skull with its links to the Pathfinder Society as a faction might fit easier into a sanctioning than Reign of Winter. But whatever the future holds for this, Im anxiously looking forward to it.

3/5

Excellent

2/5

We are cruising through RotRL in a Pbp group now...using the homebrew approach to earn Chronicle sheets. The players are super excited about that. This is actually an extra game for us that we were not planning on running before the announcement. My home group had already started Skulls & Shackles when this announcement was made, but are already talking about doing a sanctioned AP for their next adventure...but that's a year out.

3/5 *

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Help a new GM!!

I just ran Reign of Winter: Snows of Summer as a PFS, and now, I'm looking to report the game and give credit to the players. But, when I try to report the game, it asks for scenarios, but doesn't give a choice for RoW:SoS. How can I report this so that the players get the credit?

5/5

Ira kroll wrote:

Help a new GM!!

I just ran Reign of Winter: Snows of Summer as a PFS, and now, I'm looking to report the game and give credit to the players. But, when I try to report the game, it asks for scenarios, but doesn't give a choice for RoW:SoS. How can I report this so that the players get the credit?

Reporting is broken. They're working on it.

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Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

I just figured out the workaround. Set up the session as anything at all, then, when you go to report it, click the "view all sessions" button, select the pathfinder AP appropriate, and continue from there.

But, it will be good when they make it easier.

Liberty's Edge

Hello all, I'm just getting into PFS, but I am GMing a home game of RotRL. Two of my players are also interested in PFS and I figured we might as well take credit while we can. A number of questions from one who has never done any PFS paperwork:

1) My group cleared Thistletop back in February. Since this was after it became sanctioned, can I give them credit for it even though I just found out about this?

2) I know in PFS scenarios, the GM blacks out those items that were not found during the course of the scenario. Does this hold true for the chronicle sheet for the AP, even though they aren't using PFS characters? Or, to put it another way, will the PFS characters only have available on the sheet what was found in the home game?

3) I've never filled out a form for an event (I'm assuming I have to do so). Since we're playing the whole AP—slowly, I might add—should I report it as a continuous event and only close it once we complete the AP, or should I fill out separate events for each time we complete a sanctioned portion?

4) Since none of us have played PFS, we won't be able to apply the credit until our characters reach the appropriate level, since all of them are currently essentially 1st level. How do I fill out the chronicle sheet? Do they have to know which character they're going to apply it to, or would I just put in their PFS number and leave the character blank?

Thanks for now. I'm sure I'll have more questions in a little while.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

HangarFlying wrote:
1) My group cleared Thistletop back in February. Since this was after it became sanctioned, can I give them credit for it even though I just found out about this?

Given that it's in the elgibility period of PFS reporting, it's a grey area between retroactive credit and late reporting of credit. I wouldn't have a problem with it, especially as it's encouraging people to get into PFS and won't cause problems with any other reporting, but I'm just some guy, y'know?

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2) I know in PFS scenarios, the GM blacks out those items that were not found during the course of the scenario. Does this hold true for the chronicle sheet for the AP, even though they aren't using PFS characters? Or, to put it another way, will the PFS characters only have available on the sheet what was found in the home game?

As you're playing this in 'campaign mode', I wouldn't strike out items on the chronicle.

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3) I've never filled out a form for an event (I'm assuming I have to do so). Since we're playing the whole AP—slowly, I might add—should I report it as a continuous event and only close it once we complete the AP, or should I fill out separate events for each time we complete a sanctioned portion?

It really doesn't matter, but the former would be easier.

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4) Since none of us have played PFS, we won't be able to apply the credit until our characters reach the appropriate level, since all of them are currently essentially 1st level. How do I fill out the chronicle sheet? Do they have to know which character they're going to apply it to, or would I just put in their PFS number and leave the character blank?

You need to know their character number, as you should be reporting the session online as promptly as possible.

Some things to bear in mind:

For AP chapters played in 'campaign mode', you have the option of giving credit to a brand new PC, with the gold reduced to 1398 gp. So even though the 'Burnt Offerings' chronicle is tier 3-5, you could give it to a brand new PC, meaning they start at 3XP (so 2nd level), 4 prestige, 150+1398 gp.

You can hold the chronicles for the other chapters to apply to PFS character(s) at the appropriate times (as soon as they reach 4th level in the case of 'the Skinsaw Murders'), or do the same trick again with the chronicles to start off second, third, fourth PFS characters with 1398gp, 3 XP, etc.

If you do end up assigning all the chronicles to the same PFS PC, to be applied when they reach the correct level in an attempt at 'power levelling', be careful of the chronicle for 'Fortress of the Stone Giants'. It's tier 12-14, so your PC can end up reaching level 12 (ready for the high level arc 'Eyes of the Ten') and then blow past straight to level 13. You might want to assign that chronicle to a different PC...

Liberty's Edge

Thanks for the info, Paz. Though, reading through the guide to organized play, it says that if a 1st level pre-gen is played, it can be applied to a newly created character. Is Burnt Offerings an exception? Or is it mentioned somewhere else?

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

It's a typo.

Liberty's Edge

Thanks for the help!

Grand Lodge 2/5 **

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I'm trying to interpret the rules for applying chronicles to existing PFS characters when an Adventure Path is played in campaign mode, and I'm sure that I'm doing something wrong.

If a chronicle says "Levels 1-2" in the top right corner does the existing character have to be only 1st or 2nd level?

Yes I know that sounds stupid, but...

PFS Organised play 4.3 says, "you may receive credit for
playing the sanctioned portions of the adventure as if you
had played a pregenerated character" (page 30) and "If you play a non-1st-level pregenerated character, you can apply the credit to your character as soon as she reaches the level of the pregenerated character played." (page 6)

Using Snows of Summer as an example the chronicle says 1-2, the adventure itself ends at 4th level, and the characters should reach 3rd level by the time they finish the section of the adventure that the chronicle covers.

Which bit take precedence?

Thanks.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

The chronicle sheet takes precedence, as it is the PFS-specific document. If it says tier 1-2 on it, then the PFS character that you're applying credit to needs to be 1st or 2nd level.

I thought the name rang a bell... are you the same Darrell Impey that was involved in the UK RPGA in the dim and distant past?

Grand Lodge 1/5

Is there any possibility of Jade Regent being sanctioned? I understand that Rise of the Runelords got it because the Anniversary Edition came out at the same time as Shattered Star that received that treatment...

But then again, the Lantern Lodge IS getting dissolved... :p

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Aeshuura wrote:

Is there any possibility of Jade Regent being sanctioned? I understand that Rise of the Runelords got it because the Anniversary Edition came out at the same time as Shattered Star that received that treatment...

But then again, the Lantern Lodge IS getting dissolved... :p

Jade Regent is on their to-do list. Pirates stole the Skull and Shackles sanctioned chronicle sheets, which should be out soon, and I believe they said JR is next (and continuing up to Council of Thieves in reverse publication order).

Grand Lodge 1/5

Awesome! Thanks Rogue! ^_^

Grand Lodge 2/5 **

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Paz wrote:

The chronicle sheet takes precedence, as it is the PFS-specific document. If it says tier 1-2 on it, then the PFS character that you're applying credit to needs to be 1st or 2nd level.

I thought the name rang a bell... are you the same Darrell Impey that was involved in the UK RPGA in the dim and distant past?

Second bit first; Yep, that's me. Who's that?

First bit second. [Still being a bit stupid.] OK, but is that a tier (so 1st/2nd ONLY), or a sub-tier (so one level above/below allowed)? All it actually says on the chronicle is "Level 1-2".

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

Darrell Impey UK wrote:
Second bit first; Yep, that's me. Who's that?

Oh, I'm nobody. Back in the 90s I went to a couple of European Gen Cons where RPGA events took place, and lurked on uk.games.roleplay, and you have a memorable name it seems!

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First bit second. [Still being a bit stupid.] OK, but is that a tier (so 1st/2nd ONLY), or a sub-tier (so one level above/below allowed)? All it actually says on the chronicle is "Level 1-2".

It's both, effectively. Or, if you prefer, modules and AP chapters don't have subtiers, and the tier given is the strict level range. As it says on page 29 of the Guide:

GtPFSOP wrote:
All players must use an existing Pathfinder Society character (without modification) within 1 level of the starting level of the sanctioned content from a Pathfinder Module or Pathfinder Adventure Path.

The sanctioned section in the AP chapter starts at level 1, so it's only valid for level 1-2 PFS PCs.

Grand Lodge 1/5

Actually, I think that the Rise of the Runelords Thistletop was level 3... isn't it?

The Exchange 4/5

Chronicle sheets that say 1-2 can be applied to a character of first or 2nd level. if it said 3-5 it could be applied to a 3rd, 4th, or 5th level PC.

Thisletop is 3-5 (which means its designed for level 4, but can be applied to a 3rd, 4th, or 5th level character)

Grand Lodge 2/5 **

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber
Paz wrote:


The sanctioned section in the AP chapter starts at level 1, so it's only valid for level 1-2 PFS PCs.

Great, thanks for the confirmation. :)

4/5 *

I couldn't find it in the thread. In the sanctioned bit for RotRl book 3, for the campaign it says that Jakardros, Vale, and Kaven accompany the PCs. What about the sanctioned part? Having 5 PCs and 3 NPCs seems a bit much. Thoughts, please?

5/5

At what rate can we expect the older APs to become sanctioned?

Grand Lodge 3/5

I just stumbled upon this thread and I like the idea of having the older APs sanctioned. I'm currently running Council of Thieves and I was curious if it will be sanctioned and if so, when?

Thanks!

Paizo Employee 4/5 Developer

Du Nord wrote:

I just stumbled upon this thread and I like the idea of having the older APs sanctioned. I'm currently running Council of Thieves and I was curious if it will be sanctioned and if so, when?

Thanks!

With the help of a few volunteers, I have been sanctioning Adventure Paths as the schedule permits in reverse chronological order. Carrion Crown is the next in line.

That does mean we'll most likely see Serpent's Skull and Kingmaker before we see Council of Thieves. I do not have a reliable date I can provide you for that Adventure Path at this time.

Shadow Lodge 3/5

I just started reading this post and the comments scratching my head thinking that I was so sure this stuff was in place already, that I was surprised this is only new, and wondering why did I think it was allowable before.

Then I noticed the date of the post. :(

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