Hey all! I saw this recruitment for a similar campaign a few years ago but the game died out shortly after character selection. Now with the success of the video game, the time is now to refresh the idea (have permission from the original poster to run this). The thematic pitch for a WotR recruitment: an all Aasimar party of four gestalt (non-mythic) characters fighting the forces of the Worldwound! The beginning of the AP will be different also from those familiar with this AP or video game - no fighting maggots and cave vipers, flies, etc.
Character creation guidelines for 1st level characters:
1. Races: Aasimar only - variant heritages in play (variant abilities will be rolled if you are selected)
2. Attributes: 20 point buy
3. Gold: 300 gp
4. Background skills in place
5. Alignment: Good only
6. HPs: Max at 1st level
7. Classes: All Paizo sources allowed as long as you can reasonably tie them to campaign.
8. Traits: 1 trait and 1 Campaign
9. Post your timezone. I am in EST.
10. Gestalt rules.
11. Looking for four characters.
Character submission: Physical description with emphasis on your otherworldly nature (images from internet are encouraged)- background dealing with your Aasimar nature and heritage - motivations to adventure? - outlook on life? - what makes you tick? Are you hated or loved or ignored by the populace?
Hope there’s interest in this.
Fun idea! Count with my application. It’s one of the things I was suggesting on another topic - a wrath of the righteous without mythic but something else to compensate (like gestalt). I have a Paladin built for it that I’d like to bring to the table (once I think on a second class etc…)
Non-mythic gestalt WOTR? Ooooh!
Full disclosure I played a bit of Book 3-4 on these forums some years back and the mythic rules kind got out of hand and the GM threw the towel in. I'd love to have another go at this AP but from the beginning this time.
Am I drooling?
I am super-tempted and love pretty much every aspect of your idea.
One question based on this:
Physical description with emphasis on your otherworldly nature (images from internet are encouraged)
Are you steering away from any Aasimar with Scion of Humanity?
I'm tempted to offer a lower level and re-spec'd variant of UU here... maybe swapping out Cleric for Oracle.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
This is tailor made for me! I need to apply!
VERY cool idea. I'm not applying, but I will be lurking. This should be a fun read.
* makes popcorn *
Wow, I’m glad there’s interest for this. :)
UU, yes, I would steer characters away from Scion of Humanity. I want the characters to stand out physically both to their allies and their enemies. It will make for good RP IMO.
And I agree that mythic levels and feats are pretty broken so gestalt seems a fair compromise.
This sounds really interesting!!!
I'll definitely put a character in
Edit: How would you feel about synthesist summoner? I know it's normally seen as bad because it's kinda broken (and I generally agree), but I'm toying with the idea of a as aasimar who channels angelic power by literally turning onto one, and it would see really hit that concept. Currently thinking it would gestalt really nicely with paladin for a smitey angel or oracle for a healer angel.
very cool.
I don’t know if I have the time for another game, but my gosh this is tempting.
Witch of the Night, if you agree that the class is broken, then it probably won’t be looked at favorably. :)
Tempting, Shadow_Fox, tempting. I generally don't apply for an AP I'm already in, but I fear that my other game may be coming to an early end.
I've a character in mind, His name is Wulfgar, he's a bloodrager/oracle, but I need to alter his background to Golarion instead of an alt-earth. If I can sort out a good backstory I'll post him for consideration.
I'm thinking of a bard/swashbuckler. Musetouched, obviously.
Here's the first draft of my application - Ellaria
I'm in Pacific Time - are you planning for this to be a real-time game? I'm not sure I can fit one in.
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Gestalt character rules Technically, this is the 3.5 version, but this also works for pf1.
Huston gave some of the benefits. Another benefit is endurance - gestalt characters simply have more resources, and often you can set them up so that you can last through many more fights in a day. I also want to point out some of the things to watch out for when you make a character:
* You get the same actions that a single class character does each turn. While you may have more choices, they are limited by time pressure. If you have a class that uses a lot of swift actions, you might choose a more direct class to pair it with.
* Make sure that your classes synergize well with stats. If you are mixing two spellcasting stats, you'll have to balance them with all of the other things you are concerned with. Or decide that you'll use one class for attack spells and keep the other one for utilities and support spells that don't require a huge stat. If you mix melee and spellcasting you have to set your stats appropriately.
* You get one set of feats. Some GM's give bonus feats with gestalt, but we haven't heard this for this game (yet). If one class needs a lot of feats to boost their class features, pair it with one that needs less. Or a class that gets a lot of bonus feats. Many gestalt builds include fighter for fort saves, BAB, and bonus feats.
* Look for conflicts between class features. If things give the same bonus type, then you don't get the full benefit of both. Barbarian rage excludes a lot of other options. That can be okay if you want to buff up then hulk out, but be aware of the tradeoff.
Let me point out how some of this applies to my character.
Ellaria focuses mostly on Dexterity and Charisma. Dex is her primary melee stat and most of her class features are charisma based. She has her panache pool and her bardic performance pool. By spreading them out she can last for more fights, or she can use them together if it's really difficult. I expect that a lot of her casting will be out of combat. Swashbuckler and her bard archetype give some bonus feats to start with and swashbuckler eventually gets combat feats.
count me in with my Dragon Knight:
Angelkin Oath of the Mendevian Crusade Paladin / Crossblooded (Esoteric Dragon & Psychic) Sorcerer aiming for Dragon Disciple
Mmmh... Shuffling out some ideas...
Rogue/Summoner for some flanking love? Bard/Fighter for nice melee autobuffs? Or perhaps a ranged guy? Gestalt is a proper environment to try something which usually doesn't work as well, such as throwing starknives or... Damn! Too many possibilities!
Edit: Yeah... Dawnflower Dervish/Fighter to throw starknives seems so cool...
I don't suppose I could convince you all the Legendary Sorcerer, eh? If so, I would take the Angelic bloodline.
Otherwise, probably go Celestial Sorcerer/Oracle of some sort.
Okay, I just realised I cannot be Dawnflower Dervish and pick Desna's Shooting Star.
Lol.
But Desna is best right?
I'm tinkering with a team Sarenrae blossoming light cleric. The lack of armour is a survival issue, the logical choice for fixing it would be monk for the other half of the gestalt but I dislike the flavour (I want something more Sarenrae). Hmm UMD and a wand of mage armour to the rescue?
Another idea I have is a bladed brush follower of Shelyn, however bladed brush is not a well written feat and interactions with many sources of DEX to damage are squirrely at best. Probably simpler to go with STR and figure out how to build something suitably flavourful that isn't hugely MAD.
I don’t know if I have the time for another game, but my gosh this is tempting.
Yes, same. Ugh!
@Philo- Ellaria sounds cool but it might be worth considering daring champion cavalier/bard instead of swashbuckler?
@GM- will you allow choosing alternate features from the charts? I have a couple different crunch ideas but the fluff I’m most attracted to is an aasimar with wings… I’d most likely be aiming for the angel wings feat at 11th (unless a class feature got me something similar already), but I noticed both charts have wing options. I’d probably want to start with wings even if they’re completely non-functional (which is an option on the random features chart), but I’d gladly give up my SLA for some slow, clumsy flight (which is an option on the variant abilities chart). What are your thoughts on those?
@Philo- Ellaria sounds cool but it might be worth considering daring champion cavalier/bard instead of swashbuckler?
Interesting. I haven't spent much time with the cavalier, but this one sounds interesting. I lose a few things, but gain a couple of others. and ... wow, that's a long list of orders...
@GM- will you allow choosing alternate features from the charts? I have a couple different crunch ideas but the fluff I’m most attracted to is an aasimar with wings… I’d most likely be aiming for the angel wings feat at 11th (unless a class feature got me something similar already), but I noticed both charts have wing options. I’d probably want to start with wings even if they’re completely non-functional (which is an option on the random features chart), but I’d gladly give up my SLA for some slow, clumsy flight (which is an option on the variant abilities chart). What are your thoughts on those?
He mentioned that he would allow rolls after selection. Hopefully he gives us a couple of rolls to choose from or allows rerolling of ones that provide no functional benefit.
I keep coming back to this one...
@GM I don't suppose I could convince you to allow Dreamscarred's Psionics? I was thinking an Aegis/something would be very shiny here. Don't ask don't get right... Can't blame a guy for trying. :D
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My first idea is Magus(Kensai)/Sorcerer(Sage Bloodline), but something crossing with Draconic socrcerer so I can go Dragon Disciple is awfully tempting. I’ve played a paladin in the first two books of the AP, don’t really want to got that way again, though. Plenty of paladins in the thread already (though a whole party of Aasimar gestalt paladin/somethings would be amazing…)
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Thanks to both hustonj and Philo Pharynx for the assistance with Gestalt.
I've submitted a Paladin multiple times for different WotR tables and I really like that PC idea so it would be a Paladin/?. Going with the 'synergy for stats' idea probably something like an Oracle or Sorcerer since they'd share Cha with the Paladin. Some of it should probably depend on the party builds; I hate to have a 'weak spot' not covered class-wise.
Oh, with Gestalt is quite hard to have a weakness not covered. All of the characters have multiple capabilities, and it's actually common to have all niches covered twice or thrice.
Witch of the Night, if you agree that the class is broken, then it probably won’t be looked at favorably. :)
That's fair. I think I phrased my question badly, because I was really just wondering what your expected power level was. I know that gesalt can get wild, but so could mythic. I think I'm too used to playing with GMs who outright ban lots of stuff haha.
This is stormraven aka Udaya Udas, I'm offering Ayaal for consideration. She is done except for minor-minor tweaks.
She is a LG plumekith Cleric (Crusader) / uMonk dedicated to Shelyn.
Her appearance, inspiration photos, backstory, and everything else is in her profile.
Thanks!
Aya
PS - I'm in EST as well, coming to you from NYC.
@Witch of the Night & @Shadow Fox
I don't think synthesist summoner would be too bad if you used the unchained summoner. It would depend a bit on the gestalt class. Going for a complete combat monster might be an issue, but less so if it was a support or skillmonkey class.
If you were going for becoming an angel, the unchained eidolons have you covered.
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So my cleric/wizard Looks like this with longer hair and less muscle Pic.
Also I'm in the EST time zone.
@Philo
I wasn't aware there was an unchained equivalent to synthesist, in part because it was so hard to balance.
I've moved on to a different idea anyway, so the point's moot.
I don't have an official pitch yet but I realized I never mentioned timezone at all- I'm EDT/EST also, though like some others I don't have time for a real-time game on roll20 or whatever, I'm only available of this is a regular play-by-post game.
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Sarkovian Barbarian/Shifter trying to reclaim the ancestral lands? I think I built this for a previous gestalt WotR, but didn't get picked.
Rogue/Bard (trying to duplicate the Master of All archetype from the CRPG)?
Simple Fighter/Rogue (all the feats AND all the skills)?
Swashbuckler/Rogue (or is that too piraty)?
Magus/Swashbuckler (because every attack should involve extra rules)?
Lots of thoughts. Nothing other than my phone to work with, which sucks for this fat old man . . ..
Anybody want to comment about these ideas?
I'm preferential to the Rogue/Bard but that's because I want to watch a Perform-check pickpocket. :)
Ok, wow, lots of comments.
1. It's not a real-time game. I was just curious where people are posting from, that is all.
2. Giant Halfling - With regard to your wings question, I'm a big proponent of where the dice land is what you get so, as I said in my recruitment thread, if your character is selected, you roll after selection.
3. Louxman - I'm going to say "No" to the DS Psionics.
4. Witch of the Night - Obviously, I want the party's characters to shine in the game, but I will try to balance out the party so that it is not so OP!
5. Ayaal - Great character, UU, and thank you for weaving in your alignment, skills, classes, and traits in your background. So few people do that. I also liked the feat planning, so it gives me an idea where the character is headed.
6. Philo - No image for Ellaria? Also the background is kind of scarce.
7. Mailhain = No background?
If I missed anyone, let me know.
2. Giant Halfling - With regard to your wings question, I'm a big proponent of where the dice land is what you get so, as I said in my recruitment thread, if your character is selected, you roll after selection.
It would be much easier to anwer your questions (Physical description with emphasis on your otherworldly nature / background dealing with your Aasimar nature and heritage), i.e. write a proper background, if we could roll beforehand. Some Variant Aasimar Abilities are pretty obvious and defining.
Physical description with emphasis on your otherworldly nature (images from internet are encouraged)
I've been trawling through the interwebs for aasimar images (I hate pinterest it wrecks image search) and naturally 90% of them are holy warriors. There are a few pretty cool sorcerer/wizard aasimar images out there too but so far I can't find a decent monk, druid, or magus (this one surprised me) aasimar.
So I found this picture that's supposed to be of Sarenrae but when I look at that I think Aasimar Magus. And now I want to build that :)
I’m sorry, I don’t know how I missed the parenthetical statement about rolling for variant abilities. That was only half of my question though. Can we pick things off the other chart labeled “Random Aasimar Features” or would we have to roll on that too? If the latter, can we roll on that one during recruitment? Some of the things on it, like a melodic voice or graceful build, would be a simple tweak to someone’s description, but some of the other ones, like wings or fire for hair or feathers covering your whole body, should probably have an impact on your whole background.
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Ayaal - Great character... weaving in your alignment, skills, classes, and traits...
Thanks! I appreciate the compliment. I'm a proponent of having every aspect of a character hang together in an internally logical way. It helps me find the character's 'voice' and personality for RP.
Re wings, there's always the Angel Wings feat although that doesn't kick in till level 10+.