GM PaleDim |
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GM PaleDim |
Slides are up for perception, initiative, and marching order.
Zhang Chunhua |
"HELLOOOO!"
Where is everyone?
"Hey, does anyone speak Tien? Did you know my family name 'Zhang' means 'Archer' in Taldane?"
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Day Job: Game Hunting Lodge (survival): 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (2) + 9 = 11
"Do you do Board or Roleplaying?"
Eltran Katsu |
Hi, so I’m level 6 with Eltran after all.
Forgot a GM credit from a module.
Can only level up in a week when I’m back from vacation.
But can start the briefing.
GM PaleDim |
Hi, so I’m level 6 with Eltran after all.
Forgot a GM credit from a module.
Can only level up in a week when I’m back from vacation.
But can start the briefing.
Any objections to starting the briefing before that time? No pressure, just taking input.
Dhovahk |
I likewise need to level up this character, but I see no reason to delay the briefing/kickoff.
GM PaleDim |
I could use more info on the slides, but we have at least through the briefing for that :)
Eltran Katsu |
Hello GM, just a couple of points regarding my character’s build:
He has four stacking archetypes:
CLASS ABILITIES - BARD 6 - Chronicler of Worlds, Speaker of the Palatine Eye, Voice of Brigh & Sound Striker Archetypes *
BARD CLASS DETAILS
BARD Archetype: CHRONICLER OF WORLDS
BARD Archetype: SOUND STRIKER
BARD Archetype: SPEAKER OF THE PALATINE EYE
BARD Archetype: VOICE OF BRIGH
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I have VC confirmation that all archetypes stack.
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Eltran casts psychic spells and uses int for all bard abilities.
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He also has a magic item ‘three reasons to live’ via a chronicle sheet that increases levels for bardic performance. If a bard uses the horn to start a bardic performance, all effects of that performance are calculated as if the bard were 6 levels higher. This doesn’t grant the bard access to new bardic performances; it only enhances those to which the bard already has access.
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Eltran Katsu |
Oh and I forgot that some of his bardic performances can affect constructs.
PAZ42 |
Hello everyone! If there is still an open seat for this game, I would like to join. Luisila said to mention that I was her online friend that she mentioned. I have two characters I could bring. I have a level 6 negative channelling cleric who focuses on throwing fireballs, and who also is good at bluff and diplomacy. I have a level 7 two weapon fighting slayer who is good at finding traps and has a little diplomacy. Which would be better for your current group of characters?
Zhang Chunhua |
I just checked - thanks to whoever added Cade. His stats look good.
Anytime, bud. I know you'd do the same for me ;)
GM PaleDim |
My approval is pretty light. Assuming you have a valid PFS character the open spot is here. Whoever fills that in gets it :)
GM PaleDim |
Hello GM, just a couple of points regarding my character’s build:
Digesting this... I'm familiar with how archetypes that replace mutually exclusive features can be taken together. The clarification on replacing mutually exclusive sub-features is helpful (never thought of that).
Four archetypes is a neat trick :) Yeah wow, they truly replace different bard features and specific performances. You've gutted the bard class with four archetypes.
Seriously though, thanks for the heads up :)
A planar-themed bard going to the Plane of Earth makes a lot of sense.
Now for the Three Reasons to Live item... this makes sense. This is the most wild bard build I've encountered. I'm looking forward to seeing him in action.
Eltran Katsu |
Yeah, sorry for making it complex. :-/
But that’s the beauty of Pathfinder 1st edition… even veteran players find ways to do things they’re new to but it is really nerve wracking to wrap one’s head around it in case you’re the GM. So I already apologize!!
Tallisan "Dusk Guardian" |
My approval is pretty light. Assuming you have a valid PFS character the open spot is here. Whoever fills that in gets it :)
Thank you! I put my information into RPGchronicles.
Zhang Chunhua |
@GM PaleDim, if the Diplo roll isn't high enough after stating our intention to help/roleplay bonus ;) Eltran could roll with a +15 and we could attempt to aid him.
GM PaleDim |
Nah, it was enough. These guys really are not hostile to start with. They just want to keep finding gems to nom.
GM PaleDim |
That's totally cool. The only issue that might arise from that (I suppose) is if your roll is not great but I can't take the 10. I guess that was actually the case here (but overall the team beat the DC, so no issue).
Diplomacy in the moment is generally never going to be the situation for a taken 10.
Dhovahk |
Interesting. Disable Device vs locks has been one of the more common uses of Take 10 I’ve seen (excluding attempts made under pressure like in the middle of an active combat encounter), possibly because there’s no penalty for failure other than having to spend the time to try again.
Eltran Katsu |
Maybe there was a trap involved?
GM PaleDim |
The DC depends on how tricky the device is. If the check succeeds, you disable the device. If it fails by 4 or less, you have failed but can try again. If you fail by 5 or more, something goes wrong. If the device is a trap, you trigger it. If you’re attempting some sort of sabotage, you think the device is disabled, but it still works normally.
The emphasized text isn't specific to traps. It isn't specific about what goes wrong, but I suppose it could be something like jamming the lock with broken-off bits of lock picks.
I might have this wrong, but I've always read this as the penalty being no retry on sufficiently severe failure.
Zhang Chunhua |
Unless I'm mistaken, it sounds like Chunhua would like input from all. So that leaves Dhovahk.
I suppose input from Dhovahk would be OK, as long as he agrees with me :D :) ;)
But knowing Hawthwile as virtually as I do, I suspect he wouldn't want to slow the game down if you are ready to move us on, GM.
GM PaleDim |
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I will move us forward tomorrow. I'm quickly fading :)
Dhovahk |
Dhovahk is a “go with the flow” kind of guy. XD
GM PaleDim |
Does Stone Shape make noise? Creating a tunnel just below them to listen in would be amazing. Otherwise I think we need to find a way for Eltran to move closer and be discreet. At least there's plenty of stalagmites to provide cover.
Yeah, but it's stone shape, not stone consuming, so where is the stone that previously occupied the tunnel going? It would have to be just above the surface and would look kind of like the ruts of dirt in your back yard that moles make (but even more obvious here, I think).
GM PaleDim |
Shape stone looks like it’d do 15 cubic feet from the wand. It would take 125 cubic feet to clear just one grid-square on an encounter map, so I don’t think the tunnel would work. As an imperfect solution, Dhovahk can use Wild Shape to turn into an earth elemental and gain the Earth Glide ability. I do not know how hearing while underground would function though.
In addition to the above, this is right too. A full tunnel at that distance isn't possible in 4 charges.
Finally there is the bridge to cross, so you'd have to either cross the bridge with stealth and start the tunnel on the floor on the other side, OR descend into the ravine (which doesn't seem easy/safe), and start the tunnel in the opposite face of the ravine just below the surface. Overall it doesn't seem practical.
I scanned some past threads for this scenario and couldn't find much usage of the wand, but I imagine it could be used to creatively build obstacles on the field of battle, or for stealth cover before?
Zhang Chunhua |
I like the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stoopid) when hatching Pathfinder plans.
But of course, I’m happy to go along with whatever plan is decided upon :)
If stealth/diplomacy doesn’t work – hey, we’ve still got cold steel to fall back on.
Eltran Katsu |
Yeah!! ;-)
So Hawthwile’s plan to use earth glide and listen is great. If we then have the feeling we can negotiate then Dusk and I can step forward to negotiate but if they are hostile then we do a surprise attack.
GM PaleDim |
Looks like we're cooking with a plan. Just some detail questions on Dhovahk's earth glide and then we can see how this goes.
Zhang Chunhua |
Dhovahk should decide himself how to proceed! And it is great that you are doing a broader retcon! ;-)
Agreed! We are not there and Dhovahk is, so I haven't clicked the spoiler.
Besides all that, I trust Hawthwile to make the decision, and if Dhovahk then needs some help, no worries!
I am confident he will do what he thinks is best.
Zhang Chunhua |
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Have been caught up with some VTT PFS GMing and admin today.
I plan to get a post up within the next 14 hours or so.
GM PaleDim |
No worries. Our pace right now is pretty good, but hopefully not too aggressive. If somebody feels like they're being left behind, absolutely let me know.
Zhang Chunhua |
Very cool ability, Eltran. I'm hoping there is some way we can co-operate to make it work.
GM PaleDim |
Yeah, Dusk would know that it doesn't.
The scenario doesn't exhaustively describe the mechanics of how the activity works within combat (only that you can do it once per round). It also doesn't give a stat block for Grave Treader :/ (bleh).
Based on the vagueness of that I'm ruling that those at the alter keep their DEX AC, are not defenseless, do no provoke, etc.
GM PaleDim |
Now to Fascinate in the midst of an already-ongoing battle.
...The distraction of a nearby combat or other dangers prevents this ability from working...
...Any potential threat to the target allows the target to make a new saving throw against the effect. Any obvious threat, such as someone drawing a weapon, casting a spell, or aiming a weapon at the target, automatically breaks the effect.
So, purely RAW:
- any further drawing of weapons-not-already-drawn would break the effect for both of them (because it does not specifying "at target" or anything about specific targets).- any aiming at (including attack) would break the effect for the specific target only (because that trigger does state this, weirdly inconsistent).
Honestly the first line in the quote above would suggest it should simply be impossible in the general combat/threat situation, but then it goes on to specify conditions within battle. Specific beats general, yada yada.
Interesting that the general text and overriding specific text appear in the same ability. The Internet debates I could find did not help. There are many passionate opinions that it should just never work in combat at all (I read as: in initiative), and seemingly equally many that it should work early in combat or until one of the conditions above pops off.
A Voice of Brigh can use Brigh’s calming voice to pacify constructs. This functions as the fascinate bardic performance except it can target only constructs...
The archetype replacement performance ability doesn't seem to undo any of those constraints, so we keep the above.
So there you have it. I rule that it works but will very likely be quickly broken with hostile actions.
Eltran Katsu |
Totally makes sense!! Sorry for creating work for you!!
GM PaleDim |
No worries. Interesting problem :) The archetype didn't even create the problem. Most of the debates and threads I found were just about Fascinate itself.
Zhang Chunhua |
Hi all, I'm travelling for the next 24 hours or so, and will not be able to post.
See you on the other side ;)