This is the first post in the discussion thread. So we are getting ready to run this thing. :)
Apologies for the delay. Work has me at a veeery early a.m. shift. It's been an adjustment. I appreciate your patience.
Alright well get caught up and give us a post we still be here ;)
Apologies for the delay. Work has me at a veeery early a.m. shift. It's been an adjustment. I appreciate your patience.
Oh, I've had some jobs that start "Dark and early", and I'm also bad at adjusting to time changes - even small ones like daylight savings.
I hadn't realized we were actually getting started in gameplay, my bad. I thought we were just "assembling" to start in a couple of weeks from when I'd chimed in, so I kinda checked out until now.
I hadn't realized we were actually getting started in gameplay, my bad. I thought we were just "assembling" to start in a couple of weeks from when I'd chimed in, so I kinda checked out until now.
Well, we started. :)
We have been given a mission, plans for transport and a budget. The prof has asked if there are specific needs for mundane adventuring equipment for the group. If not, then we can fast forward.
We can fast forward, but I'd rather the other half speak up on what they want to do.
I am good with letting the others catch up and weigh in on that last conversation.
The version of Ama I had in my head doesn't work with the story introduced. I'm working on a class and concept that works with the idea presented, while still fulfilling an arcane role.
Great sounds good
This is the best time to rethink your character. Let us know when you have a concept down.
And feel free to talk with us we might be able to help with ideas and such and/or help expand those ideas
The idea is still to hold "Arcane" and the prior ideas of "bound to this plane in this form that does not speak to me" and "pursuit of the unbound", so I think that they'll explore the Transmutation and Elemental spells, perhaps... It should not impede things, just poking at the motivation.
So how are you saying your character became bound to this plane -- and more importantly where did they originally come from??
Oh, I meant that in the sense of "this isn't me, this doesn't feel like me".
Okay sorry me not understand that -- no understand how to maybe help. Please clarify?
"Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?"
Except the dream is that subtle sense of wrong, and it feels like it is centered on you. It does not fit, something does not fit, but finding out what when there is no start point.
"Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?"
Except the dream is that subtle sense of wrong, and it feels like it is centered on you. It does not fit, something does not fit, but finding out what when there is no start point.
eh, there's a pill for that.
Okay I can understand that from the Matrix point of view -- but the question is how is this occurring within this reality of things.
Where does you character come from? What race is your character? Why are you thinking that they feel a sense of wrongness about themselves?
There a lot of variables that can go into creating that sense of wrongness but the biggest question is -- aesthetically speaking -- why do you feel or want them to have this sense of wrongness.
The more details you can outline the more connections perhaps I and/or someone else can help you make. Weaving the various stray strands of conceptuallity into a cohesive concept is something I do fairly well but I need so fairly clear strands even if they seem disjointed.
eh, there's a pill for that.
Gold Star.... Gold star. *slow clap*
Where does you character come from? What race is your character? Why are you thinking that they feel a sense of wrongness about themselves?
Half-elf whose family is in the employ of House Lyrandar, might have conflated a fascination with water with the uncertainty of life, and the potential of planar exploration, and finding oneself.
Okay so you not really a half-elf/half-human but a Khoravar in House Lyrandar that has a combined fascination with water, the uncertainity of life, and planar exploration. If I understood things correctly.
Now I understand the fascination with water part but what do mean by:
1) A fascination with the uncertainity of life
2) A fascination with the potential of planar exploration
I am assuming that this combined fascination is what is causing the conundrum of finding oneself.
Also by the focus (or fascination) being on Water as opposed to Air or Water/Air ... I would assume they are more inclined to be a Rainmaker type of individual?
So, are we going to try and recruit new people to replace the ones who died or is this a TPK by insidious carbon monoxide?
Ghads I hope not I was looking forward to playing this out and would even go forward with what we have as we could bring on some NPCs to help out if needed.
I want to continue. I can start a recruitment thread. :)
It's a couple of things for me that are giving me difficulty.
IRL aside— though it has factored in a bit.
I'm having difficulty with the motivation for the character. A favor owed? Alright. The cold start is jarring, but okay, I was expecting there'd be some exchange of ideas, some building of history, and there hasn't been. for the characters beyond Professor--> Situation--> GO!
Is this a cold start for everyone? Dakaal and Kozzemo have rapport, obviously. The rest of us? Hardly.
Have we adventured together before?
How many levels have we gained together?
• Bonus: What got us there? Boring? Exciting? Near-Death for anyone? Everyone?
Any failures?
I could be looking for something that doesn't quite need to be there, perhaps, but I also just can't roll the numbers. There's no draw there for me for that. I (shsmefully) am also having difficulty with the entire adventure being spoiled in the recruitment.
I'm kinda stuck there, and I'm not sure that I can get past it. I certainly haven't been able to in these past weeks. The silence isn't respectful to the DM as well, so i'll take being swapped out, if you get a good arcane submission.
I want to continue. I can start a recruitment thread. :)
Being honest I kinda checked out because I thought you had. Usually when I notice the GM hasn't posted in a month I just kinda bounce. I've joined too many games where we have some nice interactions as players and then realize the game is over and has been for a while.
Oh, I see.
Dakaal and Kozzemo have a rapport because we worked at creating one from get go. I have and I am sure Dakaal's player have no issues with helping you all make connections but so far the exchange from what I can tell has been minimal and that makes it really hard from another players point of view to help make connections.
So if either Me'mori or Storm Dragon want to make more solid connections I am sure that Dakaal and Kozzemo are more than willing to help with those. Perhaps Me'mori knows Dakaal and Me'mori knows Storm Dragon as a potential start.
I would extend something to Storm Dragon but I think in-game he is the one that Kozzemo has named "human" aka "defiler" in goblin which would make it difficult for him to have a quality relationship prior to the current situation.
I think Elton was waiting on us, because we have been asking Ivo for some background information, and I've been asking for feedback on prep work, specifically if we want to be a completely airborne party.
If Ivo doesn't want to speak, a post saying he's keeping quiet would clarify this.
I'm definitely willing to go over any connections. While Dakal is officially attached to the mathematics department, he has a very wide base of knowledge and would be open to collaboration in just about any field. Or a rivalry. I could also have worked with your mentor/colleague/roommate/significant other.
I don't have a good grasp as to how he and Ivo may have come across each other.
Also, since we've just started, we could possibly retcon Kozzemo's interactions with Ivo.
I also think it might be good to consider just how much Kozzemo is playing into the not understanding common. Goblins are integrated into society and we are part of a successful business. You've got average int and cha, so there's no need to do this unless you really want to.
Its not a matter of being integrated into society but where Dakaal works well with other humanoids I was playing the other side where Kozzemo works well with animals so much so that he tends not to work well with humanoids that are not Goblin as outside the animals Kozzemo's interactions would have been mostly with other Goblins (mostly family) or his brother who he shares a special rapport with.
It is very much like places within many countries where folk that speak the same language gather, they have business and some of them even have elements that serve the common-spoken language for that country, however, there is a sub-group within the community that does not speak the common-language well or at all.
Further due to his strong connection to animals, he tends to think in more simplistic terms. He has also not spent a lot of time speaking other languages so his diction in Human (aka whichever human-language is most common in their region -- and besides why do the humans not learn to speak Goblin -- so yes he has a small beef with Goblins being treated as second class citizen in a world they once ruled -- and let's face it Ivo did kind of push that button).
I think Elton was waiting on us, because we have been asking Ivo for some background information, and I've been asking for feedback on prep work, specifically if we want to be a completely airborne party.
Yes, I was waiting on all of you.
Okay Me'mori and Storm Dragon can we get some feedback from you guys as we are kind operating blind without it.
Keith is talking about Session Zero in this latest blog post.
We can start over, starting from Session Zero. That way we can bring you up to speed.
Okay but once we finish with the Session Zero can we fast forward through the current situation to get back to where we currently are at -- adjusting of course for anything that would not have occurred due to what takes place in Session Zero?
Or will be doing Session Zero and then starting this adventure completely over?
Also is Me'mori and Storm Dragon in for this, I mean they have not said much of anything since we tried to re-establish the base of what we are doing. Are they even still with us?
I'm probably gonna bow out honestly. I was already kind of annoyed when I was told we weren't going to be starting for a bit, but to post into the thread, and then the game started immediately anyway...sort of, since there hasn't been any structure or GM input to make it a game.
I've noticed over the years that I've started to have less patience for certain kinds of games, because they don't tend to last long. This is giving a similar vibe.
Hopefully I'm wrong; you guys still seem really into it. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood today.
Well I have to admit that I purposefully went about creating a character that had some extra depth with a fellow player and that elevates the enjoyment at least 3 fold perhaps even more. I was also looking forward to interacting with the Ivo that got portrayed thus far because I thought the semi-view that goblins-are-second-class-citizens would be an interesting twist to the game.
However, if you not wanting to build something more 3-dimensional there is really nothing that can be done. I have tried to help you and the other player with doing that but neither of you have chosen to give any feed back. Note while I am not the GM I was working closely with the GM to try and help get the the characters ramped up. Yeah sure there were a few hiccups along the way but we got things going and I was hoping we could get the bits and pieces sorted out and move things forward.
If you are willing to take another stab at it maybe we can get you over the hump and into the flow of the game. I always try as both a player and a GM to make things work as the it is a cooperative effort in story telling and it really needs all its participants participating. ;)
Still if you are definitely signing off, I wish you the best.
I'm here, and going through the blog post, and am game to work through a Zero, work is just sucking up most of my energy with a varying schedule.
Great Me'mori is there anything I might be able to help you with to help you make a better connection with the group even during a Zero Hour situation.
What are your thoughts about your character, what might you like to see in regards to your character within Eberron, what are your asperations for your character?
The more you can supply of what you would like to see, means the more the GM has to work with when it comes to meeting those expectations. Basically a blank slant or a minimal slate usually gets blank or minimal response.
Yes. That's true.
Quite understandable. I had forgotten that the general pitch was given in the recruitment until I reviewed it. That's my error.
So, given that we are based out of the school, Ama can fit, but none of us are scholars, are we? I think I would like to change my class, and instead of putting Ama forward (my Eberron default, to be honest), Perhaps an Antiquarian Investigator? Archaeologist Bard?
Quite understandable. I had forgotten that the general pitch was given in the recruitment until I reviewed it. That's my error.
So, given that we are based out of the school, Ama can fit, but none of us are scholars, are we? I think I would like to change my class, and instead of putting Ama forward (my Eberron default, to be honest), Perhaps an Antiquarian Investigator? Archaeologist Bard?
Sounds good.
Oh, I think an arcanist can be a scholar. But those two classes definitely have some good points to them and fit in with the adventuring scholar mindset.
Yeah I do not see any issues with Ama as she is described -- seems like she is both studious and adventuresome. Thus a scholar of a sorts within her own right.
Further we will be in a rather wet area so water mastery might prove very useful. Still I would simply play the character that you find the most fun to play as that usually will be the one that will hold the most interest for you in the long run.
I did not want to deprive the party of the Arcane support, but a Minotaur Scholar very much tickles my fancy. Additionally, I'm noting that there really is not much in the range of a non-arcane support class (I'm picturing a scholarly-type almost always tripping over scrolls, more preoccupied with knowledge than the practical, but unmatched regarding intellectual things) that can contribute effectively in the core.
--To be fair, I have not looked outside of the core, as things get iffy.
hmm. Have you looked at the alchemist class?
Investigator fits even better. There is no better skillmonkey in the game than Investigator (Empiricist).
Me'mori tickles your fancy sounds good, but what about a hybrid Minotaur Scholarly Investigator(Empiricist) thus you can also create a bit of both ideas. Further the Scholarly part would tie well into Dakaal
Storm Dragon are we doing anything with your character to create a link or are you set with your character and we figure out that link within the proposed Session Zero. I am okay with ret-conning aspects of what has occurred but equally content with maintaining the current relationship that has already been established as well. Your thoughts?
I'm fine with being the racist uncle in this campaign, who slowly comes to have a grudging respect for his companions or maybe dies heroically but in some karma-laden way for his prejudice. Either/or.
Ivo's social skills are minimal so it's perfectly in character to have him put his foot in his mouth the way he did, which is why I framed his words that way in the first place.
That said, it's possible he's worked with Dakaal before, and doesn't really see him as a goblin; Blues are pretty notably different in terms of both appearance and society. They're "the good ones".
Me'mori tickles your fancy sounds good, but what about a hybrid Minotaur Scholarly Investigator(Empiricist) thus you can also create a bit of both ideas. Further the Scholarly part would tie well into Dakaal
*looks askance of the GM with starry eyes*