| Ting Ting Ting |
He wasn't on the map at all when Lefty acted. I presumed he just hadn't been put there yet.
I know, me too. I just assumed the ogre was moving up the hallway the whole time so I said that ting would wait until he came around the corner.
If the GM moves the ogre up a bit ting will race down the hallway at him, if not ting will wait with a readied action.
Actually, if DMoG doesn't chime in before I head to bed I'll go ahead and do a readied action for ting. But I figured it couldn't hurt to ask him about it :)
| Garados Angelidi |
Friends, I’ve very badly injured my hand today and can’t move it. I’ve had many stitches. I’m typing this with only one hand.
I’m going to step away from my games for several days to a week. If I am a player, please bot me. If I am the GM, I’ll see you in a few days.
| Wyran Zuranan |
Nobody has a fireball that they could lob into the room with all the zombies? Great way to start a big melee like that!
| Garados Angelidi |
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I'll get to this game (and all my others) ASAP.
| Ting Ting Ting |
Nope, not at all, especially after the room upstairs. But I was surprised when we didn't immediately rush in.
If I had known the ogre was that tough, I'd have had ting retreat to the stairs. but I heard ogre, not ogre on steroids. Didn't feel it was metagaming since ting, he's a character I had played to sixth level as a 'pathfinder,' had fought ogres before.
My concern is not about buffs or darkness, but with the smell of brimstone, my concern is what they may have been summoning this whole time.
| Tessai |
Why would we rush in, if they hadn't yet noticed us at all?
For Tessai, the first order of business was to free those prisoners we found before being detected. If we just rush and die, what use are us to those people who are being held captive?
For me the error of engaging the ogre was the risk of raising an alarm, which it did. Now they are ready for us. And we have gained absolutely nothing from this exchange, quite the contrary actually.
If I was playing any other character than a Paladin, I would not go in that room - I would grab the prisoners and get the hell out of here to come back the next day. But Tessai will do the paladin thing to do, and probably bite the bullet because of it.
| Ting Ting Ting |
I'm good with grabbing the prisoners and going. I'm not sure that a paladin "must attack" instead of taking the innocent and leaving.
I disagree with the idea that they hadn't noticed us. I thought one of the survivor's rushed downstairs, he would have notified them. Also when we saw the location of the zombies in the room, they were set in a defensive position around the casters. So, they knew we were coming.
My concern is that we've given them enough time to finish their summons.
| Tessai |
I guess we can agree to disagree then.
We had no alternative but to give them time, because the group was stretched all over the corridor.
Also Tessai's concern is that leaving now will allow them time to regroup and entrench. While the little girl is still in there. I am just pondering if she would consider a parley or not.
| Ting Ting Ting |
I'm not sure what we're agreeing to disagree on.
They clearly were may have been made aware of our existence before we ever came down the stairs, and we only got spread out in the corridor after we decided to not attack the defended position in the temple and attempt to free the prisoners.
I agree with you that attacking them now is probably a suicide mission, not just because they have had ample time to prepare but also because of what I fear they have summoned (I assume that from the sulfuric smell mentioned in the game thread.)
I understand the desire to not fight them entrenched but if they have summoned a BBEG. Then better to come back after they have wasted their recourses.
Anyway, agreeing or disagreeing, I'm glad we talked tactics a little. I think communicating earlier would have helped a lot more. For instance, in character we were all communicating with 'Lefty' not with each other and out of character I thought everyone knew that one of the cultists fled downstairs, assumably giving the alarm (which the defensive posture in the temple supports).
I'm good with whatever the group wants to do, flee, talk or go down in a blaze of glory.
Edit:Hmmm, started reading through the game thread. It looks like the only priest we saw escape used the potion and went down the hall. So, my belief that they were in a defensive position due to being warned was an assumption.
Again, probably would have been good to talk strategy before the attack, not after it. Hopefully we will survive to learn from our mistakes.
| Tessai |
I think it is possible they were not aware of our presence. That is what we are agreeing on disagreeing.
And based on that assumption, I think it was a mistake to attack the ogre. I am not sure when/why we abandoned what we were doing at the time (getting the prisoners out of there), to simply engage in a fight which completely stalled our actions, and split the group.
I dislike too much OOC talk as it can get out of hand, so I prefer to go with Gameplay posts whenever possible. And since we are in a dungeon, trying to remain unnoticed, it makes sense to use the Message spell.
In any case, it is irrelevant now. Game on!
| Ting Ting Ting |
Yeah, if they weren't aware of our presence then attacking the ogre was a huge mistake. And yes the message spell makes sense, but puts the onus of communication on the one who cast it.
I don't like a lot of OOC either, but we need to communicate, and we didn't.
With the two of us having opposite opinions on the 'Temple priests' awareness of our presence' we were both acting on our beliefs not sure why the other was doing the opposite of what we thought was sound tactics.
Yes, irrelevant now, but a good reminder of what happens sometimes...
For what it's worth, I'm glad we chatted and I hope ting and Tessai live to see the actual RA dungeon...
| Lothorian Sativa |
I was sure the ogre would be easier to kill than it was, and that he was going to kill the prisoners.
Maybe we can evacuate the prisoners while we can and come back fully charged? I'm pretty much down to cantrips.
If we attack, we might disrupt their summoning, if that's what they're doing.
| Lothorian Sativa |
I totally missed that. You're so right. Lefty's a sneak attack sort of guy, too.
I'll try to flank you, here. We've got enough speed from the Haste to position pretty well. I'm not that likely to hit, but you are. If I get lucky, I'll get 2d6 on top, too.
| Lothorian Sativa |
Tessai won't be posting soon. I suggest we bot her. This whole scenario is her time to shine.
Let's all look at what she can do, and play her right.
She's a paladin. Somebody get her to full hit points and we'll let her rip.
| Lothorian Sativa |
Same here. Glad Tessai is posting.
We're rooting for ya! Get well soon!
Ting: Darkness won't change your speed. You can run straight into the room, or straight into a creature, if it's in the way. lol
Get in there and jack up some priests. We could use a channel.
| Garados Angelidi |
I'd like to understand our situation. The babau is something Garados (who uses natural attacks) doesn't want to deal with. The other guys are priests, right?