Endless Sky (Inactive)

Game Master Zephyr amir

Appreciate your taking the time to watch and respond Zephyr. I obviously enjoy delving into this stuff but I also don't want to drag down the game thread so we can continue on DMs

Your post IS gaming my friend ;)

The core principle of a successful team is that its members support each other, and whether or not they agree on everything is in no way relative to that principle.
It is at the core of gaming too: very very different characters are meant to move past their individuality to support the party.

This is why Endless Sky will win the competition ;)

@ Zephyr Does Psychic receive 3 spell slots per Spell level? Are they Spontaneous, using Cha? Uses Occult Spell List?
I like the possible usages of Friendfetch (although, the name needs to be rewritten). I see why you are taking Inner Radiance Torrent (assume as Signature).
I really like Blistering Vindictive as a Signature Spell (or, just Heightened to 4th, or 6th would be fantastic!). Really great rp opportunities also...lol.

Another great one (depending on availability of Reaction) is Blood Vendetta. Even just the 2nd level version is useful.

Persistent Damage is huge in PF2e! Stacking both Fire and Bleed on a Target(s) is big time!

This is awesome; if our opponents has Reactions. Hideous Laughter also allows for some funny rping.

Fear heightened to 3rd is fantastic! I may have mentioned that before...lol. You may have an open slot there...hehe.

Here is one that you can cast every morning: Mind of Menance.

Hare's a funny one for 4th slot (although, Blistering Vindictive at 4th is better; but why not both!): Tortoise and the Hare.

Solid 5th slot Synaptic Pulse
My Wizard uses this whenever there are multiple enemy wrecking us with Reactions: Crushing Dispair. He is a goblin; so whenever he casts it, he starts telling Yo Momma jokes at them...lol.

Occult has a lot of Will spells....

Just some useful spells to review for whomever has access to them.

EDIT: Holy s@#* this is so good! Forceful Hand! Lazarus is really bummed that his arcane abilities are lost.....

Several of those i need to remember for the 1/day scrolls on my playtest character lol

@ Zephyr Does Psychic receive 3 spell slots per Spell level? Are they Spontaneous, using Cha? Uses Occult Spell List?

I like the possible usages of Friendfetch (although, the name needs to be rewritten). I see why you are taking Inner Radiance Torrent (assume as Signature).
I really like Blistering Vindictive as a Signature Spell (or, just Heightened to 4th, or 6th would be fantastic!). Really great rp opportunities also...lol.

Another great one (depending on availability of Reaction) is Blood Vendetta. Even just the 2nd level version is useful.

Persistent Damage is huge in PF2e! Stacking both Fire and Bleed on a Target(s) is big time!

This is awesome; if our opponents has Reactions. Hideous Laughter also allows for some funny rping.

Fear heightened to 3rd is fantastic! I may have mentioned that before...lol. You may have an open slot there...hehe.

Here is one that you can cast every morning: Mind of Menance.

Hare's a funny one for 4th slot (although, Blistering Vindictive at 4th is better; but why not both!): Tortoise and the Hare.

Solid 5th slot Synaptic Pulse
My Wizard uses this whenever there are multiple enemy wrecking us with Reactions: Crushing Dispair. He is a goblin; so whenever he casts it, he starts telling Yo Momma jokes at them...lol.

Occult has a lot of Will spells....

Just some useful spells to review for whomever has access to them.

EDIT: Holy s~#& this is so good! Forceful Hand! Lazarus is really bummed that his arcane abilities are lost.....

OMG wow, thank you. When I really wake up, I will look at all of these. Most of them I have never heard of. Yay!

@ Ryushi I love Blessing of Defiance! That will certainly come up...lol.
Reflective Scales is nice too. Both my Wizard and Cleric may need to pick those up.
Neutralize Poison would be really difficult to get to work; because it is only a 3rd level spell. At our level; most Poison levels will be--most likely--5+. Meaning that Neutralize Poison 3 will need to Crit DCs in the 30's to allow it to work on 3 levels higher than your effect’s counteract level. .
Counteracting

Any Spell that uses the Counteracting mechanic should really be cast at your highest spell slot. All extremely useful in certain situations; which makes it difficult to fill a higher slot with it.

Question at our Casters? Anyone take Reach Spell Feat? Both my Wizard and Cleric have it. Use it every combat.

Absolutely love Bullhorn for this type of Campaign...lol.

@ Ryushi I love Blessing of Defiance! That will certainly come up...lol.

Reflective Scales is nice too. Both my Wizard and Cleric may need to pick those up.
Neutralize Poison would be really difficult to get to work; because it is only a 3rd level spell. At our level; most Poison levels will be--most likely--5+. Meaning that Neutralize Poison 3 will need to Crit DCs in the 30's to allow it to work on 3 levels higher than your effect’s counteract level. .
Counteracting

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Any Spell that uses the Counteracting mechanic should really be cast at your highest spell slot. All extremely useful in certain situations; which makes it difficult to fill a higher slot with it.

Question at our Casters? Anyone take Reach Spell Feat? Both my Wizard and Cleric have it. Use it every combat.

Absolutely love Bullhorn for this type of Campaign...lol.

I am almost sure I took reach, but I will go check

@ Zephyr Does Psychic receive 3 spell slots per Spell level? Are they Spontaneous, using Cha? Uses Occult Spell List?

I like the possible usages of Friendfetch (although, the name needs to be rewritten). I see why you are taking Inner Radiance Torrent (assume as Signature).
I really like Blistering Vindictive as a Signature Spell (or, just Heightened to 4th, or 6th would be fantastic!). Really great rp opportunities also...lol.

Another great one (depending on availability of Reaction) is Blood Vendetta. Even just the 2nd level version is useful.

Persistent Damage is huge in PF2e! Stacking both Fire and Bleed on a Target(s) is big time!

This is awesome; if our opponents has Reactions. Hideous Laughter also allows for some funny rping.

Fear heightened to 3rd is fantastic! I may have mentioned that before...lol. You may have an open slot there...hehe.

Here is one that you can cast every morning: Mind of Menance.

Hare's a funny one for 4th slot (although, Blistering Vindictive at 4th is better; but why not both!): Tortoise and the Hare.

Solid 5th slot Synaptic Pulse
My Wizard uses this whenever there are multiple enemy wrecking us with Reactions: Crushing Dispair. He is a goblin; so whenever he casts it, he starts telling Yo Momma jokes at them...lol.

Occult has a lot of Will spells....

Just some useful spells to review for whomever has access to them.

EDIT: Holy s~!* this is so good! Forceful Hand! Lazarus is really bummed that his arcane abilities are lost.....

I actually may do a review of all the "FORCE" spells later today, you are right though, Forceful Hand rocks.

So... will Ryushi have to plumb for the Vital Beacon wand then?

Oh wow i'd not read that spell till recently. Thats nifty.
i'm gonna need to add it to my Thaumaturge's free scrolls a day method.

Thats a high level spell. expensive wand.

Yeah, but a lot of what Ryushi actually bought was alchemical stuff that Malik can provide. I'm a bit at a loss as to what to reasonably buy and an extra spell slot is really valuable.

Wand of Vital Beacon is Item level 9

Wands

or I can abandon my rebuild and take back the spell ;)

Whoops, thought it was a level 3 wand for some reason. Anyway a spell slot here or there can be adjusted.

Endless Sky:

Seems like it's time the Discussion Thread 'discussed' the state of affairs and the wait/fold decision.

For myself, I need to be clear that I have already had an incredibly enjoyable pay experience with all of you, and I would hate to lose that almost as much as I would hate to lose GM.

Can we share some thoughts on what the move forward should be? I would like to continue, up to and including buying the AP and working it out for us myself. I can also understand after the long silence if we're all ready to just let it go as well.

Thanks for reading,
Zeph

I am excited to play this AP with our current group.
My hope is that the GM relays his intent; but, I would be grateful if Zephyr would be willing to step in.

I, too, would like to play with this group. I am already running 3 tables of this AP, so I would prefer the chance to play instead of GM, but I may be willing to do so if nobody else wants to.

Was always going to be a slower game of course. So depends on what the GM's got going on. Life might've gone nutters. Hs foro a lot of things lately.
So depends on GM input. Been about 2 weeks it looks like since last post?
Hopefully they're checking here and there.

If we morph over I might soft alter over a bit depending on whose doinog what.

I'm a lousy GM in with not a ton of time so I probably won't be a good option for that detail.

I would love to continue but sadly cannot GM. Should we recruit for a gm?

Was always going to be a slower game of course. So depends on what the GM's got going on. Life might've gone nutters. Hs foro a lot of things lately.

So depends on GM input. Been about 2 weeks it looks like since last post?
Hopefully they're checking here and there.

If we morph over I might soft alter over a bit depending on whose doinog what.

I'm a lousy GM in with not a ton of time so I probably won't be a good option for that detail.

Correct, last post was on my birthday, the 19th, and I have reached out twice, I think Laz at least once. PP35's other group started this conversation as well.

If everyone is amenable, let's give it the weekend.

Respect is a thing, and however we go forward, respect should kinda be our cornerstone. The guy brought us together, and whatever we make out of tomorrow, let's be grateful we were brought together today.

I agree. My hope is that the GM will be making an appearance this weekend.

I would like to see these 5 characters in action together; but, I think they as is, would be still capable; if we go with only 4 of them.

I would also vote for Zathra to remain a player; as she stated, already GMing 3 games of this AP.
Unfortunately, my card is too full to take it over.

If we take over the AP, and I were to run it, I would actually propose a new concept: we would have an MPC, a multi-player character.

Zeph would become like community-property. Like a wand or a staff. You all would come up with strategies and tactics that included call-to-action for him and that would play out.

The AP is actually designed, in principle, for FOUR 11th lvl characters, so I think this concept would play out really strongly. Obviously PP35 thought more muscle would be valuable, so we retain that, just with a slightly different operating paradigm.

Certainly potential. Something like that or the other alternate rules for archetypes or races could be considered

Hopefully GMs fine. I know my other gm had their PC explode recently and vanished for a while.

I don't mind that. Community vote on strategy Zephyr follows and you'd still get to RP him.

I don't mind that. Community vote on strategy Zephyr follows and you'd still get to RP him.

THAT is exactly the concept: the team is in charge of mechanics, but I can still follow thru with exactly the flavor I intended from the beginning.

(FYI - he will go back to his original build too: I love this new Psychic Class, like a bunch, but it's underpowered at the moment and needs some work.)

I, too, would like to play with this group. I am already running 3 tables of this AP, so I would prefer the chance to play instead of GM, but I may be willing to do so if nobody else wants to.

3 tables #DAMN

LOL so you know this AP's ins & outs?

The first book, at least! I am good at separating character and player knowledge though. :)

One thought I will share, which isn't exactly a revelation for this group, but in this time we have, let's start planning our progressions. Given that we have all put a lot of time into these characters, it will be good to know where they are headed.

Not sure we need to map all the way forward to lvl20, but let's think in terms of the next 4 lvls; like thru 15 (the next blessed ability increase): this AP has relatively fast xp advancement and I think fluidity will make this a far sight funner.

(yeah, I typed that)

For sure we could RP some of this too, the "hey, what are you practicing?" interactions. Mal could tell us about his Dummies Guide, Laz could tell us about fighting stuff, all that.

From a purely selfish standpoint, of course, it would be fascinating to write up the first time Zeph turns invisible, like at least as good if not better than when Wonder Woman first turns her plane invisible in WW1984 ;)

Lazarus will be continuing taking Feats belonging to Fighter, Martial Artist and Medic classes.
Not really any surprises from him...lol.

I am of the mind to begin our Tournament; whenever we are ready?

This happened in my S&S recruitment also; but, we were able to recruit another of my GMs to pick it up.
We are fortunate that our Zephyr is willing. Gratitude!

I really take things level by level myself. Buff and defensive spells. I'll probably start giving him more cleric feats as thus far he's been heavy on bard like Marshall abilites. I'm avoiding the Marshall feats that interrupt action economy as those seem like really bad ideas in a play by post and will just slow things down.

Maybe some other dedication but really I think his role is pretty well set.

I'm also the type that has a basic plan, but often has it change as the actual game plays. I do have Malik sketched out in a direction. although it is less clear for the Toxicant version I 've got going on right now. He has a few paths.

Though I recently realized i don't think my loremaster build concepts are going to work very well. but would keep it going just to see.

As a secondary note. Did anyone want to see the Thaumaturge version of him?
(making an alternatve version does make me realize how straight forward alchemist is when i've handed out my items haha)

The best cantrip in the game is Telekinetic Projectile.

Our Summoner will be featuring it quite a bit...lol.

lol fun.
Darn I was hoping they hd something like Starfinder's Energy Ray. small damage but chose your element. Would pair nicely with knoweldges.

The best cantrip in the game is Telekinetic Projectile.

Our Summoner will be featuring it quite a bit...lol.

One of the only things IMPROVED for the psychic: just used the amp'd version for a massive amount of damage with a sling bullet.

Zathra is going to focus on empowering her eidolon. She'll probably take Towering Size at level 12 to make him Huge, then Airborne Form at level 14 so he can fly on his own.

Lazarus will be continuing taking Feats belonging to Fighter, Martial Artist and Medic classes.

Not really any surprises from him...lol.

I am of the mind to begin our Tournament; whenever we are ready?

This happened in my S&S recruitment also; but, we were able to recruit another of my GMs to pick it up.
We are fortunate that our Zephyr is willing. Gratitude!

This is tbh, a welcome distraction. The job search makes me a little mental sometimes. Let's move forward, shall we?

Should we create a new thread?

I should be good to go. I assume a new thread simply due to the control issues behind the scenes?

Though, is the GM or players opposed to the Thaumaturge switch (with a house rule for Int not Cha-we have Charisma characters, and I like int for Malik).

Less team support in terms of level of free items though. Biggest loss being 24hr darkvision they'd be 1hr per elixir use. As well as 8hours of scent being knocked down to 10min bursts. (Granted I do not know how often Alchemist Malik will have the scent one anyway given all the options he has).
But I get more tools to play with overall as a player. I love the alchemist but I'm uncertain how much he'd have to "do" in a post by post format due to being mainly pre-established support items.
the Wand gets to be fluffed as his Alchemy Rod creation. A tool he used that facilitaties his alchemy items, as well as his fluff for targeting weaknesses w/ fire gouts and lightning shots as his common attacks w/ debuffs.

I can link the proper sheet for folks to take a peek if interest is there after work. I do have the alchemy items he does have though. 11reagents, so can get 2 of 11 different items. Off hand he would give everyone 2 reagents for themselves every day. (1 reagent is 2 of the same item. So you get 4 items but they're only two types)

All that said I'm not married to the idea. I am definitely biased in terms of "new content exciting!" and the fact I can soft play similiarly to one of my older RP creations from a ddifferent system. Seperate personalities mostly though.

I'm fine with having you switch to a thaumaturge.

Should we create a new thread?

If we are all in agreement, it's cool, I can go thru the process of "inheriting" this one, just let me know.

I should be good to go. I assume a new thread simply due to the control issues behind the scenes?

Though, is the GM or players opposed to the Thaumaturge switch (with a house rule for Int not Cha-we have Charisma characters, and I like int for Malik).

Less team support in terms of level of free items though. Biggest loss being 24hr darkvision they'd be 1hr per elixir use. As well as 8hours of scent being knocked down to 10min bursts. (Granted I do not know how often Alchemist Malik will have the scent one anyway given all the options he has).
But I get more tools to play with overall as a player. I love the alchemist but I'm uncertain how much he'd have to "do" in a post by post format due to being mainly pre-established support items.
the Wand gets to be fluffed as his Alchemy Rod creation. A tool he used that facilitaties his alchemy items, as well as his fluff for targeting weaknesses w/ fire gouts and lightning shots as his common attacks w/ debuffs.

I can link the proper sheet for folks to take a peek if interest is there after work. I do have the alchemy items he does have though. 11reagents, so can get 2 of 11 different items. Off hand he would give everyone 2 reagents for themselves every day. (1 reagent is 2 of the same item. So you get 4 items but they're only two types)

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I like this, and I also like the INT switch; I very much like the idea of you writing it up for playtest too. I think it could be cool if the end product of the class allowed that to be selectable, kinda like it works with Rogues Racket.

I am cool with the changes. I too was thinking of altering Lazarus a bit.
I know that I said he has blue eyes; but was thinking of changing them to gray....

I am cool with the changes. I too was thinking of altering Lazarus a bit.

I know that I said he has blue eyes; but was thinking of changing them to gray....

From what I have read, that would be REALLY advantageous ;)

Did that update then.
I am still on occasion formating things for easier reading though.

Of note for GMing times: Recall konwledge will come up a fair bit. Did you want me to roll them or you to roll them? I'm fine either way its a bit odd with Post by Post. He'll want to Find Flaw/general ID most things as per his job.

He also has Thorough Reports feat. Which-if we had played from level 1 would likely have almost every Type of creature-More so because he specifically does look for most. But since we're starting at lv 11 he has None yet.
Did you want to assume he has (some made up list of types) some. Or just start fresh from here?

-------------As for the forum note.

Whatever method the GM prefers. whether owning this one or making a new one.

The more the GM rolls, the faster pbp goes in my experience. Secret rolls should help in that regard.

Which is nifty~
Also I should go write up a "recall Knowledge" cheat spoiler for Malik's page for ease of reference for me or gm

I am excited to see these characters in action. I like everyone's role. This will be fun!
Still considering the eye color thing though....lol.

Yep. itll be interesting. Though I think i need to go rego over the math. I think i messed up my ac and a probably one or two other maths. I hadn't made a Mythweavers version of that. I should. Easy backup
I don't know the eye colour reference off hand.
Is it a reference to this AP that I missed in the players guide?

Was pure unadulterated humour

No AP Guide
No lvl1 dip
No playtest

PURE humour

Took me a while (and, I had to cheat and phone a friend) but; here it is. The answer to the question of what the f%#% is he talking about; changing eye color?

Ok. I am absolutely loving the Thaumaturge; although, I am basing this only on reading your sheet. If it were an Int class; I would so play one!

Alchemy Rod is cool. I like the choices and debuffs.
Lantern? Does everyone in 20' radius of Light receive the +1 Status to Recall knowledge? Lazarus would also like that!
Survey Wildlife is an awesome Feat! I had always wanted something like that in PF1e.
Forensic Acumen is so useful for pre-emptive battles.
Prescient Planner and Prescient Consumables looks sweet! Class abilities?
Find Flaws and Esoteric Antithesis is way better than Strategic Strike from Investigator! Wowswers! Lazarus and Tarik will be quite jealous...lol.

I can't wait to see Zell in action!

Also, I believe that Assurance will give you 10+prof bonus only so 23 total for Trained skills (Arcana).

Assurance

I heart reckless enthusiasm!!!

and now that I really want to be GM, I will explore Zeph a little differently since he is a tool in you all's toolkit now.

I have a pretty nifty idea too ...