Welcome! Up at the top of the page you'll see (at the time of this writing) two links. One is an exact copy of your loot list from the previous incarnation, while the other is for the maps and handouts. I made some changes there, but did my best to place your tokens in the same spots. Because the first three areas are on the same page, each one is slightly smaller but it should result in a less pixelated image.
You can zoom in on the slide for easier control of your token by press Ctrl + Alt + =.
You can zoom out with Ctrl + Alt + -.
I've got two requests, neither of which have to be done right away. First off are taglines. I would appreciate it if everyone could have their taglines formatted like Massielo's. The alternating colors aren't necessary, but having all the essential stuff in a consistent format will help me out.
Second, for our prepared casters, if you can have a spoiler at the top of your profile that has the spells you've prepared for the day, that would also be appreciated. As you cast spells, just strike them out. Mention any slots you've left empty as well.
Oh, also! I made tokens for everyone, either using your forums avatar or the reference image in your character's profile. If you want to use a different image for your token, just post a link to the image in question and I will get you taken care of.
Huzzah!
This is Greta, I’m posting from this alias because until there’s a gameplay thread to dot into this will make it easier for my to check for updates. I’m headed to bed but I’ll try to adjust my banner tomorrow.
Greta, the gameplay thread is up, let me know if it's not appearing for you.
Greta, do you know how to use Blogtrottr or another RSS feed service to send you an email when one of these threads are updated? I didn't know about it when I first started here years ago, and once I found out I felt like no one could possibly play in a game without it, so much so that it's almost insulting to suggest someone doesn't know. So not meaning to be insulting if you already know.
If you don't, or anyone else here doesn't, what you do is go to blogtrottr.com and create an account, then click on [Subscribe to a new feed]. In the URL field, copy the link from each of the two little orange buttons at the top right of this forum and submit. They only update every hour but still it's a lifesafer.
I actually missed this post!
This is awesome!
Thank you GM Losonti!
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Hi GM, Massielo has an image that better represents his mystical nature and skin color. GM Mioki was using this as a token in the maps, and I really liked it and would appreciate if you would also. Anyway, this is it.
Nice job on the Maps too!
Tag line copied. Is there an easier way to get to the "end" of the line when editing it? My tech skills are a bit lacking, so the answer is most likely YES!
@Benedic- Thanks for the suggestion, I was not aware of it. I check my gameplay tab from my phone whenever I have enough time for a post, so the emails wouldn't help me at all (except for threads that don't show up in that tab, but those are always very temporary).
@GM (and maybe everyone else too)- I hate to be a pain, but as we're standardizing our banners is there any chance we could flip Masielo's last two sections? I know that might seem like a silly request but I'm so used to having active effects last that if it's not I know I'm going to miss things.
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@Benedic, THANKS! I'd heard that was possible but didn't know how. I just have a list of shortcuts in a folder on my Favorites bar. When I click on the folder it gives me an option to "open all in tabs"....
@Tristan- instead of putting the whole thing in one line in your profile split it between gender, race, and class (in that order iirc); that way you have less to get through in each line.
@GM (and maybe everyone else too)- I hate to be a pain, but as we're standardizing our banners is there any chance we could flip Masielo's last two sections? I know that might seem like a silly request but I'm so used to having active effects last that if it's not I know I'm going to miss things.
You're not being a pain! That's totally fine. That's usually where I look for active conditions as well.
@Massielo: I had noticed that, so I actually already made a token for you using that image. :)
@Tristan: If you click on the line in question and press the "End" key on your keyboard, that will jump you to the end of the line.
@ GM Losonti Tristan has the Tactics Subdomain (War). He will always grant the reroll on Initiative to Junior; unless, otherwise stated.
Not that I believe we will need it soon...
@Tristan, I logged the holy water on your loot sheet since you were interested in them the most.
@GM Losonti, it looks like I don't have the ability to change protected fields on the sheet. If something breaks and you don't know how to fix it let me know. I didn't make the loot tracker originally but know the person who did.
I also removed the bat statue from the party loot since it also appeared on Selann's sheet. If an item is on multiple pages it will be counted twice for value, inflating our WBL calculations.
I don't think we're going to hide loot from each other in this game so if someone finds loot I don't think it needs to be put behind a spoiler. That is unless there's a plot related reason, say its a cursed item and a character is compelled to act a certain way. Otherwise I'm fine with being the party quartermaster if everyone wants. I'll work on getting the correct party images in there soon as some appear broken now.
Thanks, Junior, appreciate it.
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Glad to see you all off to an awesome new beginning. GM Losonti thank you for picking this up. Now go slay demons!
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Yes, Mioki, thank you! I hope this helps take some of the burden you're feeling, and I appreciate you doing the hard work of getting this off the ground!
Thanks to both GMs!
Sorry I forgot to post that I would be on the road and unable to post after the one Tuesday morning.... Just got to the hotel. Now to see what I missed!
Going to give Caliban a bit more time to post, otherwise I'll put him in delay for a round so we can keep going.
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My apologies, I somehow missed the link for this! I'm back :D
Thanks Losonti for reaching out, and taking up the mantle of crusade.
Missed out on some good RP starters there, but that's okay.
No problem at all! There'll be plenty more to come.
I won't be able to make a combat post for a couple of hours. Greta and Benedic do you want me to lay down some beats for this fight?
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Having been told to use good/holy weapons if possible, I'm going to use my actual bloodrage (since it makes my weapons count as such). So, from my perspective, using ragesong now would be a waste, but I can't speak for anyone else.
I don't want to dictate how you participate, Junior! Benedic, if he survives the round, will probably try to channel positive energy to harm and potentially daze the enemies, so likewise inspired rage will not affect him much, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't use it.
I don't mind friendly suggestions on how to act. I was leaning towards no anyway.
I have a couple apologies to make, the first of which is that I misread the DR for these creatures. Their DR is overcome by magic or silver, not just good-aligned weapons. I always try to be very careful with these things, but I still messed up.
The second is that I was too focused on keeping things moving, which meant I passed over Junior's turn without his consent. I am genuinely sorry for that. Going forward I'm going to stick to a 24-hour rule before I bot anyone, unless the player otherwise gives notice.
Benedic, if I understand the rules on variant channeling correctly, your channeling roll is only halved when it's used to heal. Channeling positive energy to harm undead should have its full effect.
If you ever have to bypass/bot me to keep the game going, Please do! You absolutely have permission! Try not to kill me unless you make it a good death, then it's OK.... :)
Benedic, if I understand the rules on variant channeling correctly, your channeling roll is only halved when it's used to heal. Channeling positive energy to harm undead should have its full effect.
The way I read it, variant channeling gives up half of the normal effect for a different effect— in this case, dazing the enemy. Normally, the enemy makes a save and either takes full or half damage. With variant channeling, the save determines whether or not the enemy is dazed, and it just always takes half damage. :)
A variant channeling either modifies positive channeled energy when used to heal or modifies negative energy when used to harm.
As written, the dazing effect would only apply if you were channeling negative energy to harm.
That said, we're not bound in blood to what Paizo writes. One house rule I've always liked is to eliminate the distinction between channeling to harm or to heal: channeling positive energy would heal all living creatures in the area and hurt all undead (which coincidentally is what 2e wound up doing with the AoE versions of harm and heal ). Negative energy would work the same way in reverse.
Generally this makes channeling a lot more powerful, which I'm a fan of since it tends to get passed over as "suboptimal." If you're good with that, then that particular sentence in the variant channeling rules is rendered irrelevant, and you may proceed with mass dazing of the undead (and evil outsiders, since I imagine you'll be picking up Alignment Channel at some point). :)
The second is that I was too focused on keeping things moving, which meant I passed over Junior's turn without his consent. I am genuinely sorry for that. Going forward I'm going to stick to a 24-hour rule before I bot anyone, unless the player otherwise gives notice.
No worries. There is going to be an adjustment period getting used to everyone's play styles.
Lewt is logged. We have 5 potions of cure light wounds now. Anyone who can't cast the spell should probably take one. If no one wants the warhammer I'll use it but it doesn't affect me a lot.
A variant channeling either modifies positive channeled energy when used to heal or modifies negative energy when used to harm.As written, the dazing effect would only apply if you were channeling negative energy to harm.
Oh! That stinks. I'm sorry, I somehow missed that part on all the times I have read it over the last like TEN YEARS. Wishful thinking I guess. :( All of the positive effects are incredibly weak and boring if they're all you get!
That said, we're not bound in blood to what Paizo writes. One house rule I've always liked is to eliminate the distinction between channeling to harm or to heal: channeling positive energy would heal all living creatures in the area and hurt all undead (which coincidentally is what 2e wound up doing with the AoE versions of harm and heal ). Negative energy would work the same way in reverse.
Generally this makes channeling a lot more powerful, which I'm a fan of since it tends to get passed over as "suboptimal." If you're good with that, then that particular sentence in the variant channeling rules is rendered irrelevant, and you may proceed with mass dazing of the undead (and evil outsiders, since I imagine you'll be picking up Alignment Channel at some point). :)
Oh, my, yes yes yes please! That sounds absolutely wonderful! I've been designing Benedic with offensive channeling in mind, and your change will make a big difference in his ability to tank while doing it. And help others! It won't be much, because it's halved, but it will also improve everyone's Diplomacy while we're fighting, which is so useless that it makes me grin broadly. :D I guess it's great for dealing with Horgus. :D
Oh, yes, my Cleric archetype gets Alignment Channel at level 4 I think.
That warhammer belongs in a museum! ;)
Great! In that case, anyone who is down some HP should heal 1 to their total, thanks to your channel.
@Benedic We were using that line all night, playing our weekly PFS game last night...lol!
Sweet sweet hp!
I'm not opposed to the change to channel energy (iirc, I think it did work that way in a previous editioin) but, just to make sure its been considered, as a life oracle Massielo can also channel, and his aren't halved at all. That doesn't mean you can't make the change, obviously, but it does mean it might have a bigger impact than if it was just Benedic that was effected.
Wow! I never read the Variant Channeling!
Although, to be fair, my only PF1 Cleric was a Negative Channeling Core PFS character; so I couldn't.
When he reached 8th, his Death Domain ability allowed for him to Tank! It was fun! But not overpowered; but extremely effective.
I say that to say, that even with Phylactery of Negative Channeling, it was only 8d6 at 11th.
Not game changing, but always useful! I am ok with it; although, it is really the riders that matter.
We had a Wizard with Dazing, Persistent Aqueous Orb gimmick; was not much fun for the rest of the table. After that season, we went Core PFS...lol.
GM Losonti would you mind collecting your house rules and rulings on the campaign page? I will absolutely forget otherwise.
I've always liked channeling. There was a 3.5 feat that let clerics do something like that and at low levels it made clerics "the life of the party"! :) But, just like PF channeling, it didn't age well. At higher levels it helped with the healing, but just wasn't enough.
Actually, I played a Dhampir cleric that channeled negative to harm in combat, and heal himself. Had to select Cure spells though, and get a wand fairly quick so I could actually be the party healer.
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GM Losonti would you mind collecting your house rules and rulings on the campaign page? I will absolutely forget otherwise.
Absolutely, give me a bit and I'll add a link to a document to the top of the page.
Selann: that sort of thing is where I first encountered this concept, playing in an undead heavy campaign we kept fighting clerics who would channel negative energy to hurt us and heal their friends.
Thank you for raising that issue, Greta. This does make Massielo's channeling more powerful, but will also affect any enemies you may encounter who channel. Hopefully should make things a bit more interesting for you all.
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House rules link added to the top of the page. If there's any suggestions for new ones you'd like added (or if one we have just isn't working out), you can either post them in here or PM me and I will consider them. :)
I was thinking about the change to channeling today, specifically how it might affect my plans for the future. One thing that occurred to me was that it will be tricky using channels on mixed groups of enemies, such as a human cleric and a group of undead. Presumably a cleric can always leave himself out of the effects of a channel if he wants? Otherwise his burst of negative energy would heal his minions but hurt himself. Likewise a cleric opposing him who channels positive energy would harm the undead but heal the cleric.
I was thinking that this makes the Selective Channeling feat much more important to have if we intend to use channeling in combat, to ensure that we don't accidentally heal our opponents as well as our friends. I hadn't planned on taking that feat, figuring that I didn't need it if I was only channeling to harm. But I've reconsidered and reorganized my plans to take it into account. :)
Does alignment channel only effect outsiders with specific alignment subtypes? Because, otherwise, my favorite part of the change would be down the road when someone uses alignment channel to damage evil outsiders and it healed me (I’m an outsider but my own subtype is [native], I don’t have an alignment one at all).
Benefit: Instead of its normal effect, you can choose to have your ability to channel energy heal or harm outsiders of the chosen alignment subtype. You must make this choice each time you channel energy. If you choose to heal or harm creatures of the chosen alignment subtype, your channel energy has no effect on other creatures. The amount of damage healed or dealt and the DC to halve the damage is otherwise unchanged.
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@Greta, your character is still healed by positive energy, right? I think it should affect her just the same way as if we channeled positive energy to harm undead. There is a burst of positive energy which damages evil outsiders and undead, and heals most other creatures.