Gods and Monsters and Heroes (Inactive)

Game Master Daxter

Thanks for letting us know Varocles. What is the plan folks?

Time to go challenge a warlord to a duel, I guess? With bards signing throughout, hopefully :)

So, my understanding of this game world is that it's generally a historically accurate Classical Athens and Greece, with certain rpg elements (such as magic and races) and anachronistic references thrown in. And that's where it gets fuzzy for me.

In Classical Greece, women had limited rights and were betrothed to an arranged marriage at a young age by their closest male relative, and this was generally accepted as the norm. Yet we have more modern references sprinkled throughout, so I'm not sure if that applies to social norms about marriage.

Are the PCs completely radical in pressing for Lysithea's choice to marry, or is this a viewpoint that at least some other groups in the game world have? Because if we make arguments to Lysithea's dad assuming that he considers her like a modern-day father would, but the DM is holding the society to be more historically accurate, we're going to get frustrated by making arguments and taking actions that seem reasonable to us, but absurd by the others in the game world.

I've already staked my claim too being on dad's side in this, hahaha.

But if it comes to a donnybrook, I'll fight on the side of you tall folk.

I'm okay if Teledoros ends up being something of a radical and a romantic in this regard. He's young and dumb anyway.

Varocles' opinions might stem more from being a dwarf than general societal norms as well.

Also of note, the two HElves grew up among elves, so even if Greek society is as Kyronai says, we still have an out for not being completely familiar with it. :p

No you guys aren't being radical. All your arguments are completely reasonable as I don't hold things to any sort of historical accuracy. It's just some folks are super stubborn. My world is a little bit more modern but some still prefer the old ways.

Plus you guys breezed through the combats so I have to give some sort of challenge. :)

Agree - we'll tread a fine line between modern thinking and the accepted social norms of antiquity - hence Polyoinos' request for a sit down rather than stand off.

Irrespecitve of the final decision Poly is happy for the girl to follow her whims - would just be good to raid the old goat's wine cellar as we come to the conclusion lol.

No you guys aren't being radical. All your arguments are completely reasonable as I don't hold things to any sort of historical accuracy. It's just some folks are super stubborn. My world is a little bit more modern but some still prefer the old ways.

Awesome, thanks for the clarification.

Slammed at work at present - 2020 budget estimates eating up my time, normal service will hopefully be resumed by weekend.

Thanks for the update.

@All: Just a wee heads up that I'm off down to Edinburgh (Auld Reekie) tomorrow for a couple of days catching up with an old buddy.

Back Friday but likely (a little) worse for wear. Anticipate normal service will resume o'er the weekend.

Please bot Poly as necessary :)

Does he know that you consider him old?

Thanks for the update Poly. I'll move things along tonight, but I have to say I love all the interactions. Keep up the good work guys.

Congrats Amphitryon, you got me to choke on my breakfast a bit. I didn't think you'd actually do it. Bravo.

<deep bow>

So dark side points or light side points?

Green vs Poly, Power Attack: 1d20 + 5 - 1 ⇒ (11) + 5 - 1 = 15
2d6 + 3 + 3 ⇒ (2, 1) + 3 + 3 = 9

Theorycrafting

Greatswords with power attack and +3/+3 means Str14 and BaB 1-3.

Now, +5 Hit with Str14 means BaB 3 (unless they have Weapon Focus or Masterwork)

I did 21 damage and he was still up. So, I’m assuming Con14 and FCB for HP, and d10 Class. 13+8=21. As I did 21 damage, that means lvl3 is most likely. So they probably have 29HP each.

The question then is what feats do they have?

Or they are lvl2 with power attack, toughness and Masterwork weapons. Meaning he’d have 3HP left.

Don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain!!!!!

Are you asking me or theory crafting out loud?

Just out loud. Please don’t answer :)

Alrighty then.

I totally expected an intense back and forth between Euromenes and Amphitryon but you had to go and ruin it. :)

The man is still up! That’s a damn tough barbarian.

On the plus side, if he did that to me I’d be making a new character. So glad the pendulum swung as it did

Yea I realized that to stand toe to toe with you for more than 1-2 rounds my bbegs need max hp and possibly a level advantage and I was right.

Holding off my post for the moment. Did our heroic dwarf just skewer the foe?

Varocles is really against arranged marriages.

He’s just tired of watching you lot clown around poking at things ineffectively.

What's the plan now guys?

Will update later tonight guys.

Oh man, we can actually buy Greek Fire in this campaign instead of alchemist's fire!

So troll hunting then? I'll move us along later tonight.

Yes, troll hunting.

Alchemist'sGreek fire is 20 gold.

Can we agree that we dropped, say, 120 of that 3,000 gold to buy six flasks? That's a purely arbitrary number, so if anyone wants to bring that up or down, speak up.

And is the remainder of that 3,000 gold to be split up or are we doing communal loot? I'm fine either way.

Yea that's fine. I would recommend a zero-sum distribution to keep things fair. I can start a spreadsheet if someone is willing to put in the work of updating it.

Teledoros already has 3 flasks too.

No Greek fire for me please.

Regarding the plan: If we're going to try an ambush by drawing it out with noise, then we're probably going to call more than one of them. We could hover right outside the trap door and wait for it to come out, hopefully blocking the one behind it.

Hopefully there's only one exit to the troll lair.

I’ll throw this out there. Two CR 5 encounters dumped on top of one another is a way to get a party of 3rd level PCs killed awfully fast.

Added to that, our plan had involved being stacked right outside the door to the dungeon we expected these guys to come out from, means our “trap” didn’t go off as planned, and we were facing trollhounds in our midst on round 1.

I believe we’ll defeat this encounter, but as a concerned citizen I wanted to point out the difficulty of this encounter for our party.

To be fair - we picked the mission... normally as a 3rd level PC I'd be extremely wary of butting heads with trolls, but we're headstrong and looking to join the pantheon of heroes! :)

Yup! We walked into it, so whatever happens it’s on us.

Now if we were hunting goblins and ran into a troll nest...that’d be different.

Well you guys did fail the bluff check which was bad luck to say the least. But I did also nerfed the troll in an un-insignificant way. I think you guys will be fine. I do appreciate the concern. If you ever think I made a mistake, let me know. I know I may look omnipotent and perfect, but I am not. :)

I've put together a loot sheet for this campaign. (DM, if you could add this link to the top with your map link I'd appreciate it.)

I find that different people handle loot sheets different ways. I'm more than happy to maintain this loot sheet, so here's a few assumptions I make:

1) If you claim something from the loot, and it's on the loot sheet, you are responsible for removing it. At the very least, please ask someone else (like me!) to do so if you are unable. Please don't declare that you're taking something, add it to your PC's items, and then leave it on the loot sheet.

2) Basically, I won't worry about splitting up the gold unless it makes in-game sense, like when we have an opportunity to go shopping or if someone needs coins for a magical wishing fountain or whatever. Otherwise, it also depends on when I have free time, since I can't view Google Drive from work except for on my phone.

3) Before I'll sell, I'll remind everyone to get what they want from the loot sheet and give them a chance to do that. After I sell, I clear the items from the sheet and never consider them again. (But Google has an edit history, so you can still check it out if needed.)

4) We all get busy, so if I'm holding things up, feel free to sell items or do whatever you need to do to the loot list. I won't feel possessive, and I'll probably thank you!

Finally, I don't recall any group loot prior to Euromenes, so I only scanned back that far. Speaking of which, it doesn't look like anyone took any of the bandit leader's gear? Please update the list if I'm wrong.

You are the hero we need, not the one we deserve.

Huzza Kyronai!

I believe Polyoinos took the spear, I'm not sure on the armor. Thank you for putting in the work.

I did indeed claim the spear :)

@Quartermeister Kyronai: Should I remove it as above or do you want it to be recorded as claimed?

Sweet, thanks for putting that together!

I did indeed claim the spear :)

@Quartermeister Kyronai: Should I remove it as above or do you want it to be recorded as claimed?

No, I've never seen any point to having it recorded who is holding onto what when it's already on our character sheets. Please remove it!