GDVIII: Redelia's Mists of Mwangi (Inactive)

Game Master Redelia

Following Igor's lead and advice Jurmo moves forward taking cover behind a Tyrant Lizard Skeleton and launching a Magic Missle.

I assume you are following Igor's lead and targeting the blue foe.

Adding injury to immobility, Jurmo's projectile of force strikes one of the entangled vargouilles (blue)

Having seen its fellow outsider stuck in place and pay dearly for it, the second vargouilles refuses to make the same mistake. Instead, it opens its distended mouth to shriek.

The ears of each of the Pathfinders within the room begin to ache with pain.
@ Solemnia, Jurmo & Drelluandast - Please post a Fortitude save (DC 12) at the beginning of your next post. Those who fail are paralyzed for a number of rounds equal to: 2d4 ⇒ (1, 3) = 4

Second Round of Combat Begins

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia (please make Fort save at beginning of post)
Igor
Vargouille (blue) -10 HP (grappled)
Jurmo (please make Fort save at beginning of turn)
Drelluandast (please make Fort save at beginning of post)
Vargouille (red) (grappled)

Igor heads back to the doorway being careful to stay outside of the shrieking rage of these awful creatures.

He unleashes another force missile at the lead Vargouille (Blue).

Force Missile damage: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2

Igor is currently 95'feet away from the Vargouille (Blue).

The webbed vargouille screams with pain as it is struck.

Second Round of Combat Cont'd

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia (please make Fort save at beginning of post)
Igor
Vargouille (blue) -12 HP (grappled)
Jurmo (please make Fort save at beginning of turn)
Drelluandast (please make Fort save at beginning of post)
Vargouille (red) (grappled)

Fort: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (14) + 4 = 18

Igor is currently 95'feet away from the Vargouille (Blue).

How did you arrive at that conclusion? With the blue vargouilles 30' above the floor and the distance from the floor beneath it to the doorway of about 50', I arrive at a hypoteneuse distance of approximately 58.3 feet.

The injured vargouilles now unleashes a shriek of its own.
All PCs (including Igor unless he is 60+ feet away from the blue vargouilles) must make a second Fortitude save (DC 12) at the beginning of their next post. Those who fail are paralyzed for a number of rounds equal to: 2d4 ⇒ (1, 3) = 4

Second Round of Combat Cont'd

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Jurmo (please make 2 Fort saves at beginning of turn)
Drelluandast (please make 2 Fort saves at beginning of post)
Vargouille (red) (grappled)
Third Round[
Solemnia (please make a second Fort save at beginning of post)
Igor (please make a second Fort save at beginning of post)
Vargouille (blue) -12 HP (grappled)

Fort (again ;)): 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (9) + 4 = 13

I don't think that Pythagoras exists in the Pathfinder universe. Distances for combat is abstracted but then so is everything else like hit points and levels. So it would be 25' down and then roughly 50' across. If you like I can roll the save but I do not think that it would be exactly RAW or PFS legal. ;)

Nah, GM has the right of it - diagonals work in 3-D too. A bit difficult to figure a diagonal on both planes, but if we do the horizontal diagonal first (3 squares, 20 ft), then the vertical diagonal along the wall (5 squares, 40 ft), that puts Igor just within range.

Fortitude vs DC 12: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (11) + 7 = 18
Fortitude vs DC 12: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (2) + 7 = 9
Reroll, GM stars: 1d20 + 7 + 3 ⇒ (8) + 7 + 3 = 18

Drelluandast shakes off the first scream, but the second makes him rigid with fear. Relax, he tells himself, just keep breathing... Taking a few deep breaths, the gnome pushes through his paralysis and rejoins the fray. ”Take that, you windbag!” he yells as he flicks another orb of acid at the blue-skinned vargouilles.

Ranged Touch: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (11) + 4 = 15
Acid damage, Focus: 1d3 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3

Casting acid splash, using acid flask as focus component.

Igor shakes off the effects of the screaming Vagouille (Blue).

Fort vs DC 12: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (14) + 6 = 20

@Drelluandast - Counted your way it works. A GM just has to use Pathfinder math and not actual real math. ;)

Fort Save DC12: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (10) + 1 = 11
The Sczarni mage's blood freezes at the sound of the outsiders scream.

Fort Save DC12: 1d20 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2
It is difficult to know if he even hears the second scream.

The acid flung by gnome burns into the already injured vargouilles (blue), which responds with a cry of anger and frustration.

Noting that one of the Pathfinders is paralyzed, he other vargouille (red) struggles to break free and make a meal of the adventurer.

CMB to remove grappled condition: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (15) + 2 = 17

Successful at last, the creature flies straight ahead, flying over the chimera specimen.
Vargouille is now 30 feet up from floor.

@GM Valen - Vargouille(Red) should still be caught by the web. My character's DC is 19 and the roll to escape was only 17.

CORRECTING:

Third Round of Combat Begins

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
Igor
Vargouille (blue) -15 HP (grappled)
Jurmo (paralyzed for 4 rounds)
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red) (grappled)

@GM Valen - Vargouille(Red) should still be caught by the web. My character's DC is 19 and the roll to escape was only 17.

@GM Valen - Vargouille(Red) should still be caught by the web. My character's DC is 19 and the roll to escape was only 17.

Prior post has now been edited to reflect this. Map is up-to-date.

Igor lets loose another force missile at the Vargouille(Blue) in an attempt to silence it forever. He then steps back a bit.

Force Missile Damage: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3

I just realized that the Vargouille will need to make (another) cmb check to actually move through the web if they get free so they are less of a threat now then I had originally thought. Still scary though. :)

The severely injured vargouilles is further injured (blue).

To keep things moving (and since he can't attack regardless of his attempt this round), I am going to insert the blue vargouille's turn.

CMB to remove grappled condition (DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (1) + 2 = 3

The vargouilles (blue) remains stuck fast to the webbing.

Third Round of Combat Cont'd

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
Igor
Vargouille (blue) -18 HP (grappled)
Jurmo (paralyzed for 3 rounds)
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red) (grappled)

Drelluandast flicks another ball of acid at the blue-skinned vargouille before realizing the danger to Jurmo. "Oh no! Jurmo! Hold on, I'm coming!" He rushes over as quickly as his little legs can manage to stand by his fellow wizard.

Ranged touch: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (17) + 4 = 21
Acid damage, Focus: 1d3 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 = 4

Casting acid splash and moving.

Heads to the restrooms! Moves casually over and tries the door.

Weird. The tombs and lairs of most hideous monsters and villainous necromancers don't have water closets listed on their maps. Makes you wonder if evil is just some really serious constipation.

perception: 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (14) + 4 = 18

The globule of acid ends the existence of one of the vargouilles is (blue). It continues to hang, seemingly lifeless among the strands of webbing.

As the invisible Pathfinder casually opens the door to the restroom, she hears the grunts of a creature wallowing in one of the stalls.
Marked with green "X" on Map.

With renewed urgency, the remaining vargouille (red) tries desperately to free itself.

CMB to remove grappled condition (DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (19) + 2 = 21
No second CMB check required as it does not need to move through another square of webs to make good its escape.

Free of the webs, the vargouilles flies towards the feisty prey that vanquished its companion.
Vargouille is 30 feet above the ground/

Fourth Round of Combat Begins

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
?? in Stall
Igor
Vargouille (blue) - 22 HP
Jurmo (paralyzed for 2 rounds)
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red)

Web is a 20' radius spell. The origin point of the spell is 35' from the ground. How is it possible that the Vargouille (Red) does not have to fly through webs?

Web creates sticky strands that must be anchored to points or they collapse in on themselves. That means that the results are almost always two-dimensional planes between the anchor points. In this instance, that meant that the web was anchored to the wall and ceiling and nothing else - the displays are too short according to the GM to be with 20 ft of a spread 35 ft high. From the opponent’s starting height, the entire triangle/plane of web at that “altitude” would fit within a 5 ft square - hence, when the GM says that the opponent would only need to make the single check, they are correct. Again.

I think I understand what you are saying but I still do not see why the web spell could not form a right angled triangle off the wall from a starting height of 15' up to the ceiling of 50'. I am willing to let it go in game but it is my lack of understanding of the problem that is bothering me.

As the invisible Pathfinder [maybe, no one knows for sure] casually opens the door to the restroom, she hears the grunts of a creature wallowing in one of the stalls.

Marked with green "X" on Map.

"Oh sorry. I didn't know it was occupied." says the voice and lets the door close.

Does the door open inward into the restroom, or outward toward the Hall of Beasties? Which side of the door frame is it hinged on--the east or west? I have more actions, but they are sort of depends on the answers.

Sorry for the delay. Let's first address the web in the room.

Disagreements and misinterpretations happen on occasion. They are bound to crop up in most any game. I realize that they can be frustrating and cause delay. However, I want I don't want any player to walk away from a table that I have run feeling unfairly treated. Thank you all for being civil and understanding.

I think I understand what you are saying but I still do not see why the web spell could not form a right angled triangle off the wall from a starting height of 15' up to the ceiling of 50'. I am willing to let it go in game but it is my lack of understanding of the problem that is bothering me.

My ruling that the vargouille did not have to fly through squares of web was based on this post.

As a result, I treated the amount of web between the PCs and the vargouilles as less than 5 feet and, therefore, did not factor in any cover bonuses for attacks against the entangled vargouilles. Re-reading the post now, I see how my interpretation was incorrect and that it could have been intending to create a web that provided between 5 and 15 feet of webbing between the PCs and the vargouilles, which would provide partial cover to the vargouilles against the attacking PCs. I apologize for my oversight.

@ Igor - In an effort to correct this oversight, please pick one of the two options below:

1) Keep the original ruling and go on "as is". One vargouille dead. Another uninjured and free; or

2) Choose an amount of webbing between the PCs and the vargouille. I will then retroactively apply cover each of Drelluandast's attacks (the others were magic missiles, and describe the revised status of the vargouilles before going forward.

Does the door open inward into the restroom, or outward toward the Hall of Beasties? Which side of the door frame is it hinged on--the east or west? I have more actions, but they are sort of depends on the answers.

Door opens inward to the restroom and is hinged on the east side. However, please refrain from posting any additional actions until Igor has made a choice regarding the amount of webbing.

The intention was to create the maximum amount of webbing between the PCs and the Vargouilles while still allowing attacks to pass through with partial cover (so say 15' of web between characters and Vargouilles if possible). Igor is more than a little scared of these guys. :)

The intention was to create the maximum amount of webbing between the PCs and the Vargouilles while still allowing attacks to pass through with partial cover (so say 15' of web between characters and Vargouilles if possible). Igor is more than a little scared of these guys. :)

GAME RETRO-FICATION COMMENCING!

The acid flung by gnome burns into the already injured vargouilles (blue), which responds with a cry of anger and frustration.

The acid flung by the gnome burns into some of the webbing The vargouille responds with a mocking cry.

The globule of acid ends the existence of one of the vargouilles is (blue). It continues to hang, seemingly lifeless among the strands of webbing.

The globule of acid stings the vargouille (blue), which tries all the more to be free from its sticky bondage

CMB to remove grappled condition (DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (5) + 2 = 7

With renewed urgency, the remaining vargouille (red) tries desperately to free itself.

CMB to remove grappled condition: 19 + 2 = 21 (per above)

The vargouille willing itself through the webs before it.

CMB to move(DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 2 = 6

However, it once again becomes stuck in the web, now ten feet away from the edge of the spell's effect.

Fourth Round of Combat Begins

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
?? in Stall
Igor
Vargouille (blue) - 18 HP
Jurmo (paralyzed for 2 rounds)
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red)

Slams the restroom door shut. Move.

"Better give that room about five minutes."

As the door to the privy shuts, no sound can now be heard coming from within it.

Inserting blue move to keep things moving along and since, even if successful, it cannot attack this round.

One of the vargouille (blue) once again tries to free itself.

CMB to remove grappled condition (DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 2 = 6

Fourth Round of Combat Cont'd

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
?? in Stall
Igor
Vargouille (blue) - 18 HP
Jurmo (paralyzed for 1 rounds)
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red)

Igor moves up a fires another missile at the Vargouille (Blue).

Force Missile: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2

"Aren't you guys done yet? Because we should really get moving."

”I don’t think Jurmo can move right now!” Drelluandast replies worriedly. ”Do you have something you can throw at these things? I can’t get at them through the webbing!” He stands ready, sleeves pushed up in preparation of spellcasting as he watches warily for signs of the vargouilles.

”I don’t think Jurmo can move right now!” Drelluandast replies worriedly. ”Do you have something you can throw at these things? I can’t get at them through the webbing!”

"Um, 'webbing'. I'm invisible, not insubstantial."

The elf's magical bolt fells the injured vargouille.

@ Drelluandast - Not sure what condition triggers the readied action. A vargouilles getting free?

One of the vargouille (red) once again tries to free itself.

CMB to remove grappled condition (DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (16) + 2 = 18

Fifth Round of Combat Begins

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
?? in Stall
Igor
Vargouille (blue) - 20 HP
Jurmo (paralyzed)
Drelluandast (readied action)
Vargouille (red)

Sorry, yes - a vargouille getting completely free of the webbing.

Holding readied action mentioned above.

No movement is apparent in the privy area.

Fifth Round of Combat Cont'd

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia (readied action)
?? in Stall
Igor
Jurmo
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red)

No movement is apparent in the privy area.

Fifth Round of Combat Cont'd

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia (readied action)
?? in Stall
Igor
Jurmo
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red)

Igor changes targets this time aiming a missile at the fresh Vargouille.

Force Missile: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 = 4

Continue to hold readied action.

The elf's magical bolt injures the vargouille.

Putting Jurmo in delay.

Once again, the remaining vargouille (red) tries to free itself.

CMB to remove grappled condition (DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (13) + 2 = 15

Nothing emerges from the restroom.

Sixth Round of Combat Begins

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
?? in Stall
Igor
Jurmo
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red) -4 HP

Jurmo taps into the power of his bound whip, and pulls forth a force middle.

Magic Middle: 1d4 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 + 1 = 3

Igor fires off his last force missile of the day at the Vargouille.

"Die already!

Force Missile: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2

Missiles fly, but inflict only middling damage against the remaining vargouille.

Sixth Round of Combat Cont'd

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
?? in Stall
Igor
Jurmo
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red) -9 HP (grappled behind 10 feet of web)

Continue to hold readied action. The web is doing a wonderful job of immobilizing them, but also means this gnome is too far away for his cantrip. And it’s no use summoning something that’ll just get entangled too.

I hate to say this to a fellow wizard but you could use a ranged weapon. :)

Keeping Solemnia's readied action for Round 6.

Once again, the remaining vargouille (red) tries to free itself.

CMB to remove grappled condition (DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (20) + 2 = 22
CMB to move through web(DC 19): 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (17) + 2 = 19

At last, successful, the creature flies forward. It shrieks with delight until it suddenly finds itself confronted by a magnificent bird of prey.

Still nothing emerges from the restroom.

Seventh Round of Combat Begins

PCs in bold may take a full round of actions

Solemnia
?? in Restroom
Igor
Jurmo
Drelluandast
Vargouille (red) -9 HP

Keeping Solemnia's readied action for Round 6.

That works for The Voice.

perception (listen at the door): 1d20 + 4 ⇒ (1) + 4 = 5

"GUYS! KEEP IT DOWN ALREADY CAN'T YOU SEE I'M TRYIN' TO LISTEN!? Geez!"

Jurmo ducks down and pulls out and loads his crossbow.

Round 6:
The eagle screeches a challenge and attacks the vargouille with beak and talons...

Bite: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (2) + 3 = 5
Bite damage, Smite Evil: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5

Claw: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (6) + 3 = 9
Slashing, Piercing damage, SE: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 = 4

Claw: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (2) + 3 = 5
Slashing, Piercing damage, SE: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2

Round 7:
The eagle continues the assault!

Bite: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (17) + 3 = 20
Bite damage, SE: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (3) + 1 = 4

Claw: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (7) + 3 = 10
Slashing, Piercing damage, SE: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 1 = 2

Claw: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (10) + 3 = 13
Slashing, Piercing damage, SE: 1d4 + 1 ⇒ (4) + 1 = 5

Drelluandast breathes heavily, but seems barely winded as he watches the fight in the misty air. Holding his trusty flask ready, he prepares to throw more acid if the vargouille approaches the two wizards.