zanbato13
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I had a fun idea for a Society character, but there is one big problem; I cannot use feats. When I say I can't use feats, I mean the normal progression ones. Bonus feats from classes are okay. So, which classes are self-sufficient? I was looking at the Swashbuckler from the Advanced Class Guide.
EDIT: The feats normally gained I will be using for some other flavorful and fun thing. Just pretend I don't get them and work in theories please.
| Cheapy |
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Funny anecdote. I once played in a game that went on for two years, and by that time, we finally got to level 10. Our GM decided to review the character sheets, and she was reading one over when she said in a startled tone: "How the hell?!" She looked up at the player of the character sheet, which was for a summoner, and she asked "You've gone 10 levels without selecting a single feat?!"
The player of the summoner sheepishly replied "Well, I was doing so well that I didn't feel like I needed to put the effort into selecting feats."
So, ignoring the intent of this post, and taking the title literally, the Summoner can be played without selecting a single feat.
| Zilfrel Findadur |
Funny anecdote. I once played in a game that went on for two years, and by that time, we finally got to level 10. Our GM decided to review the character sheets, and she was reading one over when she said in a startled tone: "How the hell?!" She looked up at the player of the character sheet, which was for a summoner, and she asked "You've gone 10 levels without selecting a single feat?!"
The player of the summoner sheepishly replied "Well, I was doing so well that I didn't feel like I needed to put the effort into selecting feats."
So, ignoring the intent of this post, and taking the title literally, the Summoner can be played without selecting a single feat.
'tis tru!
LazarX
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I had a fun idea for a Society character, but there is one big problem; I cannot use feats. When I say I can't use feats, I mean the normal progression ones. Bonus feats from classes are okay. So, which classes are self-sufficient? I was looking at the Swashbuckler from the Advanced Class Guide.
EDIT: The feats normally gained I will be using for some other flavorful and fun thing. Just pretend I don't get them and work in theories please.
I have to ask. How exactly is this ... fun?
zanbato13
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Funny anecdote. I once played in a game that went on for two years, and by that time, we finally got to level 10. Our GM decided to review the character sheets, and she was reading one over when she said in a startled tone: "How the hell?!" She looked up at the player of the character sheet, which was for a summoner, and she asked "You've gone 10 levels without selecting a single feat?!"
The player of the summoner sheepishly replied "Well, I was doing so well that I didn't feel like I needed to put the effort into selecting feats."
So, ignoring the intent of this post, and taking the title literally, the Summoner can be played without selecting a single feat.
Nope, this is what I'm looking. Thanks.
Imbicatus
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Ok, lets try:
Zen Archer. All needed archery feats are given by class abilites or bonus feats.
Any full caster. Oracle/Sorcerer/Witch are better than Cleric/Druid/Wizard here. The mysteries/bloodlines/hexes add a lot of utility that are equal or better than feats.
3/4 casters. Alchemist, Inquisitors, Bards, Magi. Less spells, but better class abilities.
zanbato13
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Ok, lets try:
Zen Archer. All needed archery feats are given by class abilites or bonus feats.
Any full caster. Oracle/Sorcerer/Witch are better than Cleric/Druid/Wizard here. The mysteries/bloodlines/hexes add a lot of utility that are equal or better than feats.
3/4 casters. Alchemist, Inquisitors, Bards, Magi. Less spells, but better class abilities.
Well, that covers almost everything. What about ACG and melee classes?
Seriphim84
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Fighters can run pretty well with just bonus feats. Specifically the Unbreakable, and Two-Handed Fighter.
Barbarian would hurt without power attack but otherwise the rage powers are more than enough to run without feats.
Rangers don't need any help feat wise. you could easily use the bonus feats and run two handed or two weapon with ease.
Paladins could also go along way without feats. I had one who had power attack and the rest for Eldritch Heritage feats, master Craftsman and crafting feats.
Gunslingers could go all day without feats (maybe rapid reload at most) and still rock.
I wouldn't do the Monk (besides Zen Archer or Maneuver Master), Caviler or inquisitor without feats, they are pretty dependent. Monks get a lot of feats but not the primary ones they need.
Casters are all pretty dependent on feats. But the oracle least so IMHO.
| Kydeem de'Morcaine |
Well the fighter, ranger, monk, and wizard get some bonus feats.
The summoner, witch, sorcerer, oracle, inquisitor, druid, and paladin get quite a bit of other stuff that can be used instead of feats.
Really, probably anything bet vanilla monk, rogue, and ninja could be made to work if you are a careful and skilled player.
Also, most of the time the "fun and flavorful" stuff can be made to work as part of your build unless you are going way out in left field for some really useless stuff. But I wouldn't think that would likely be fun in PFS where it is more difficult to get a consistent group that can appreciate your PC's unique personality.