Wrath of the Righteous AP

Game Master The March Hare

You're right. Did not see that. Question is, does the spider constitute a solid enough obstacle to stop a charge?

You're right. Did not see that. Question is, does the spider constitute a solid enough obstacle to stop a charge?

Yes, I'd say so. It's pretty big.

If I'm reading this right, then Aaliyah would have charged to J-3. So... ignore my post, I guess Jens will just move this round.

S'okay, we'll get the bugs ironed out.

So, neither of us can charge? *sadface*

Yah, no charge means can't reach this round without a double-move...ah well.

EDIT: Actually, strike that. If I move to J-4 (since moving into difficult terrain only counts as 1 square even though it stops the charge) I can just reach the maggot in I-3. That would be the only way I could attack this round, so I'll let you guys sort out if it's possible while I go off to do stuff.

Yah, no charge means can't reach this round without a double-move...ah well.

EDIT: Actually, strike that. If I move to J-4 (since moving into difficult terrain only counts as 1 square even though it stops the charge) I can just reach the maggot in I-3. That would be the only way I could attack this round, so I'll let you guys sort out if it's possible while I go off to do stuff.

Actually, the square you move into determines the number of squares it costs in movement. If you are in difficult terrain and are moving into a clear square, it costs one square of movement (assuming you're not moving diagonal). If you are in a clear square and step into difficult terrain, it costs two squares of movement. If it matters, the link is here

@ Jens - You can charge from your current space to J3 as it is still a straight line moving to the closest square in terms of movement because:

1. J3 and J4 are both the same distance in feet.
2. J4 is difficult terrain and therefore J3 is mechanically the closest square.

@ Kel - If you were so inclined, you could charge to J2 for reason one above.

@ everyone - All of this is subject to the word of our esteemed GM.

For my two cents, the 'cluster' style of initiative works well for the PBP games I've been in.

My only other suggestion would be that my favorite way to do maps for PBP is via Roll20, but I know not everyone likes that service, and some people can't access it from work, or whatever. But for myself, having both GMd and played PBP using Roll20, it is waaaay more convenient than anything else I've tried.

And since I foolishly neglected to link~

Roll20, if anyone's unfamiliar

Actually, the square you move into determines the number of squares it costs in movement. If you are in difficult terrain and are moving into a clear square, it costs one square of movement (assuming you're not moving diagonal). If you are in a clear square and step into difficult terrain, it costs two squares of movement. If it matters, the link is here

@ Jens - You can charge from your current space to J3 as it is still a straight line moving to the closest square in terms of movement because:

1. J3 and J4 are both the same distance in feet.
2. J4 is difficult terrain and therefore J3 is mechanically the closest square.

@ Kel - If you were so inclined, you could charge to J2 for reason one above.

@ everyone - All of this is subject to the word of our esteemed GM.

Let's go with this! I appreciate the assist.

Okay. Well, if I can charge the maggot, I will. :)

Personally I just copy JPG map backgrounds into MapTool, and use the built-in coordinates and token placement, like you see here.

But, to each his own, and I am happy to work with whatever you want to go with.

Also, my vote is "cluster" initiatives, since it is MUCH easier to run that way. I also suggest the DM roll initiatives, rather than wait 24 hours for everyone to wake up, drink their java, and then get around to trawling the boards. that's just my PbP experience from running several games.

I am good with initiative clusters as well. We can always alter our actions as needed. Also, the GM rolled initiative works for me, too. Paizo is rolling all the dice anyway, what matters if I push the button or March Hare pushes it?

I'm fine with whatever makes the GM's job easier. Clustered initiatives are a good way to do it. If rolling initiative for everyone at once speeds up the process, I'm cool with it. As for maps, I find that the more detailed they are, the better, but as long as I have something to help me visualize it, I'm good.

I definitely approve of clusters.

As for charging, I'll give it to Jens. He went before me and already figured it in. Kel is more of a defensive fighter anyway.

Personally I just copy JPG map backgrounds into MapTool, and use the built-in coordinates and token placement, like you see here.

That looks great, and I am thinking about how to do something similar with our combat maps. I was thrown a bit by the fact that the current map is a 10' per square scale, so that seems slightly trickier (at least for me). I'll have a look at MapTool and Roll20 to see what I can do.

Sounds like initiative groups are the way to go! We'll definitely do that.

Woah, I didn't realize the scale was 10'

I suppose making the character tokens scales to 5' makes the grid easier to imagine.

My favorite maps don't even use a grid. They just have the token size as five feet and then roughly measure movement distances. Doing it that way gets rid of a lot of the oddness that comes from using a grid at all (like the "every second diagonal" thing).

It's less precise, but tends to feel more flowing and realistic to me.

Woah, I didn't realize the scale was 10'

That's the scale of the map lifted from the adventure, not the combat map. (Just in case that's what you meant).

If not, carry on.

RPTools doesn't seem to be working at the moment. :(

Well, the MapTool program with the default texture library is only 20 mb or so. I could zip it up and put it on a server for you, if you like.

Since we're discussing all these rules about charges, it's my understanding that allies can freely move through each other's squares, and so never block each other's charge lanes.

I've seen players who believe otherwise though. GM, what's your take?

Well, the MapTool program with the default texture library is only 20 mb or so. I could zip it up and put it on a server for you, if you like.

That would be so nice!

Since we're discussing all these rules about charges, it's my understanding that allies can freely move through each other's squares, and so never block each other's charge lanes.

I've seen players who believe otherwise though. GM, what's your take?

Actually, the rules do say that you can't charge through a space occupied by an ally. We'll stick to the rules as written on this one.

Since we're discussing all these rules about charges, it's my understanding that allies can freely move through each other's squares, and so never block each other's charge lanes.

I've seen players who believe otherwise though. GM, what's your take?

Check out the section on Movement During a Charge. There is a sentence that reads " If any line from your starting space to the ending space passes through a square that blocks movement, slows movement, or contains a creature (even an ally), you can't charge" [em]

The Dragon Style feat lets you get around that charge restriction, handy dandy if one qualifies for it.

There are some other ways as well - I believe there's a Teamwork feat that lets everyone who has it charge through each other's squares along with some other benefits (though memory is hazy) and my brain really thinks there's a Mythic power use or three that allows it along with some other effect.

I guess my group has always houseruled it to be more permissive.

I think there's a alternate human racial trait that does the same thing. Or you could rely on a high enough acrobatics check to just jump over people's heads on your way through to your target. :)

*Peeers*

Weekends are usually slow around here. :)

We still waiting on the paladin?

Looks like.

Weekends are usually slow around here. :)

My experience as well. It's almost like people think they should have lives or something. *scoff*

For those of us who are home on the weekends (or just stalking the boards from our handy phones or whatever, I can't keep up with all you kids and your fancy things), and therefore have time to kill, I'm kinda interested about our group, if people feel like indulging me-- what sort of gamers do we have here?

I've had spotty experience with a few versions of D&D (I think I can say my first experience with the good ol' RPG was actually the Baldur's Gate computer series which I played obsessively as a teen, since none of my friends played D&D). Some 2nd, 3rd, 3.5, and 4e under my belt, but I am fondest of Pathfinder as it does nearly everything I want my RPG system to do.

I'm a California girl, a one-star GM for my local PFS (*cradles that solo star protectively*), and into writing, drawing, comic books, martial arts, and playing ten-year-old computer games.

I enjoy moonlight and long walks on the beach, looking for waterfowl that have been killed by oil spills.

Anyone else wanna dish?

Well, that's a text wall and a half, eh? Any typos, I blame on the iPad. Editing on these things is a pain in the rear.

Bookbinding! I might have some questions for you. Er, if you don't mind being harassed by a virtual stranger from the other side of the world. :P

That's too bad about your Legacy of Fire game. I'm playing in that ATM, via PBP (one of my 7 PBP games). It's really hard to find committed players, sometimes. :-\

And while running a local PFS game IS a lot of fun, yeah, you definitely have to be careful about burnout. Maybe start with a once-a-month thing? That's how often I GM for my local PFS.

I'm also GMing Shattered Star once a week, and for a while I was running a homebrew PFS once every two weeks, but that one's currently on hiatus.

My name's Jasper, I'm 32 and live in California. I'm an actor and a fight choreographer, but because gigs are sporadic I make my living as a dispatcher for a security company. The down time between emergencies gives me the luxury of having a lot of time to write.

I've been gaming since I was 12, starting with Ad&D 1st ed. Since then I've played just about everything you've ever heard of and probably a few you haven't (I highly recommend The Riddle of Steel, Sorcerer and Dogs In The Vineyard as far as Indie gems go) but I always come back to D&D. Pathfinder is definitely the best edition to date and is one of my favorite systems ever.

I've been in about 70 games here on the paizo forums, most of which died before a year was up. I'm on an eternal quest to find those rare play by post games with the right alchemy of talented players, a great gm, an inspired story and the momentum to keep it all rolling. So far I've found three here.

Dien, I didn't realize you were Milo in the Carrion Hill game. I'm Xander. :)

And Vaashti is GM Bigrin! I'm Llaen.

*fistbumps Jasper* I really like our characters in Carrion Hill, I'm hoping the game doesn't fizzle out there. >___< You've got a lot of nice RPing touches with Xander.

Also, woo, fellow Californians!

I have actually heard of Dogs in the Vineyard, but never played it. One of those games whose premise makes me go "...huh, well okay!"

Dogs is one of those games who's premise and mechanics are a little hard to wrap your head around at first, but once decide just to roll with it and play a game, the genius becomes apparent after the game wraps up and you're left sitting there thinking about how you and your friends could possibly have gotten into a situation where you all willing to do "that".

("that" varies from game to game, but in my experience it mostly involves shooting each other over some sort of conviction that, at the beginning of the session, you didn't even know you had)

One of these days, I'll have to give it a shot!

I dont mind being bugged about my hobbies. I'm not a fountain of information, but ask away.

Huzzah!

(I wrote a story a while ago featuring a bookbinder and his apprentice. It's hard to find the equivalent of a... beginner's text to antique bookbinding, or at least, it has been for me, in order to try and get details and terminology right.)

Well, I might be able to help out with that. I took a one-semester bookbinding class as part of my bachelor, so I know a few things. And if something comes up I don't know, well, it will be a learning experience for us both.

I'd imagine that apprentice bookbinders would probably be tested on their ability to remember and create various glue recipes, which would be different according to the kinds of paper in the book and what the cover itself was made of.

That's just a guess though.

I'm a father of two living in North Carolina. For pay, I am a Vice rpesident of a software development and government think tank company. For fun, I play Pathfinder and Mechwarrior Online - in between family outings, daddy duty, and hubby stuff.

I've also been gaming since I was 12 (over 20 years ago), and have played many different tabletop and computer RPGs over the years. Pathfinder is my favorite, a welcome change from D&D 4e. Been playing PbP for 4 years now, and I am currently running 3 games on these boards (A Second Darkness AP that just started the second module, and two Shattered Star games). I am playing in this one and one other.

On a related note, I love making maps (as you probably could guess from the earlier post. Here is the map of the first floor of the big dungeon in Shards of Sin that I did in Photoshop. Then, I just pop it into MapTools and use custom tokens for my players and monsters.

As a heads-up, my laptop's power adapter seems to be missing. I'm hoping it will turn up in short order, but until then I'm on battery power with minimal computer time, so I may be slow to post for a while. I suppose this might be the straw that breaks the camel's back of forcing me to get my PC's screwy connection sorted out again....

Hey guys...

I'm just going to come right out and say it, I am not going to have the time to run this thing the way I really want to. Or the way it deserves to be run for that matter. I think rather than continue to struggle with finding time for posting, I'm going to call it off. I really do apologize.

I also will mention that if any other potential DM out there wants to pick up the group, you have my blessing.

Thanks for all you put into the game to this point, guys. I'm sorry it's not going to work out.

Bummer. :( I am disappointed, as I was really looking forward to playing Sanjay, but I do appreciate you telling us now rather than after things get further in.

I hope to run into y'all around on the boards.

Well shoot.

Can you please move the game to inactive?

Well, damn. =(

Yeah. Well, thanks for offering even if you couldn't get it going. I'd say wait a couple of days before moving to see if someone's going to pick it up, but other than that....