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Jason Fury |
![Gardner](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9035-Gardner.jpg)
@Elli: nah, just keep it. I can cast Burning Hands a lot now (with a very high DC) so I have little need for alchemical stuff. Let's split the cost for CLW Wand, 375g each?
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Jason Fury |
![Gardner](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9035-Gardner.jpg)
I'm ready to go when you guys are. Elliomander will be carrying the Wand of CLW. Should we all have camping gear, just in case?
All I have is a bedroll and a blanket.
My inventory tracking sheet has been updated as well.
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Elliomander Ostarian |
![Aron Kir](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9074-Aron.jpg)
I haven't finished updating my character sheet with the info about how each mythic bonus functions, but I don't need that to play (I'm only going to do it because GM said we have to)... I have a little bit of time today and am hoping that finishing those updates will be part of that time, but all my mechanics are already updated and im ready to start stabbing things in the face again whenever you are.
I also was not planning on ever sleeping in a dungeon... Elliomander's mechanics were built with dungeon-delving (and resource management) in mind.
edit: I guess, on further reflection, that's a slight exaggeration... I need to spend some money... I'll make sure that definitely gets done this afternoon.
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Jason Fury |
![Gardner](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9035-Gardner.jpg)
Well, good to know that I can toss away my bedroll and blanket if the need arises then. At this level, I'll be hanging close to melee range still until I can get more spells online.
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Elliomander Ostarian |
![Aron Kir](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9074-Aron.jpg)
Purchases completed. Sorry it took so long (my son got sick).
Cold iron shortspear
Alchemist's fire x5
Acid flask x5
Holy water x4
50' silk rope
Grappling hook
Scroll of magic weapon x4
My half of the cure wand
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Jason Fury |
![Gardner](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9035-Gardner.jpg)
Hey guys, sorry if I'm very very late in posting again. For some reason Paizo threads just keep loading when I send out a post but it doesn't get there at all... :(
I hope I'm not too late to catch up, though it looks like we're still on stand-by. Unless we'll GMPC?
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Elliomander Ostarian |
![Aron Kir](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9074-Aron.jpg)
We're literally at the first room of the dungeon... Do you want to GMPC her all the way through? I mean, that's fine if you want to do that and see she shows up at some point, but if you're thinking about recruiting a replacement we could probably ret-con someone else having come in with us pretty easily... or just reboot the dungeon with a different third (I think you use an auto generator you could just re-run right?)
I'm just thinking the farther we get in the harder it would be to do anything like that...
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Jason Fury |
![Gardner](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9035-Gardner.jpg)
Agreed. Hopefully Cyth'll be back over the weekend though.
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
Greetings. I have been reading and keeping up with this game.
I don't want to take Cyth's place but would be happy to make a character to assist you in this endeavor until his return.
I spoke with the GM and he requested that I bring it up to you and ask your permission.
I humbly request to join you two in this game.
If I am accepted is their anything that you would request class wise?
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Elliomander Ostarian |
![Aron Kir](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9074-Aron.jpg)
I can't speak for Jason, but I have no objection to you helping run this dungeon in Cyth's place (possibly even treating it as a trial run for full time replacement depending on how it goes).
In terms of what we'd like to see class-wise... Resource management is very important in a setup like this... So I'd love to see a build intended to handle 10+ encounters without a rest. We also don't have any divine casting. Maybe something like brawler/shaman... You'd have full BAB, all good saves, hexes which are practically an unlimited resource, and divine casting; the only downside is that you only get 4 base skill points. hierophant (possibly dual pathed) would improve resource management even further because you could spend mythic points for extra spells.
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
To be honest I had already thought about the Divine Casting and was tempted to try a Oracle of Battle/Ranger(not sure archtype) Saving the spells for healing and the like. Though, extra healing via cleric or liberal buying of wands would be good.
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Elliomander Ostarian |
![Aron Kir](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9074-Aron.jpg)
IMHO that's not a great combo... Several battle revelations are useless for you because you'll already have a full BAB and can't wear heavy armor (or else you lose all your combat style feats); all but 2 of the others have very limited daily uses, those 2 are pretty decent but it looks like there might be better options (like flame, maybe, a lot of those powers have more daily uses and then you'd have some AoE for things like swarms).
That said, I'm not interested in dictating other people's builds (just trying to provide some helpful advice), so if you want to try it out go ahead.
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
Most of Flames are a once daily until 5th I had seen. But you are right about swarms and it better being able to take those on.
Battle I was looking at for 4 of its Revelations.
Weapon Mastery -Extra feats are not bad
War Sight - Initiative is Initiative
Resiliency - Being able to stay standing to cast healing. (Surprisingly enough I have seen this come in handy alot)
Maneuver Mastery - Dont have to dip into combat expertise or such to gain the feats
Flame I do like for:
Molten skin: Most often used energy type
Cinder Dance: Extra movement is always nice and difficult terrain movement
Burning magic can be nice.
The rest are mostly different ways to use fire for dmg.
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Elliomander Ostarian |
![Aron Kir](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9074-Aron.jpg)
I guess i didn't really consider the value of Maneuver Master for bonus feats without the normal requirements... although by the time you get the second one at 11th most maneuvers will be on the tail end of their usefulness...
Like I said, if you like it go for it. My advice was intended to help you think about how your classes would synergize and how consistently effective you can be across 30+ rounds of combat without resting, but at the end of the day it has to be a character you like/want to play or else you're going to lose interest pretty quickly.
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Jason Fury |
![Gardner](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9035-Gardner.jpg)
Hmmm... I don't know much about the divine side of the spellcasters but non-magic ranged damage would be a good way to preserve spells.
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GM Rednal |
The new kineticist class is a nice way of having consistent ranged damage without having to worry about ammo. Of course, you'll have to decide if you want to go against normal AC (and be troubled by damage reduction) or touch AC (and be troubled by spell resistance), but both are workable options, especially when you can grab Expanded Element. It's one option, at least.
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
Well I was about to post my decision but ill go look at that class.
Also, are we doing traits? I didn't see that in the character creation post.
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
With and TeleKineticist it specifically states its blast is picking up objects and using them. If the object is of a special material would you allow it to by pass dr? I know if it was a weapon I couldn't add any magical bonus's or abilities but I ask because it didn't clarify for special materials.
It is an interesting combo when mixed with Oracle. Though my BAB will be Medium, and Skill points will be based on Oracle points. It does ensure I have good saves all around and is indeed a constant source of damage IF within 30 feet.
Con and Cha become my important stats since Con is for Kinetist
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
Okay, I got a chance to go back through it and read it and I am actually willing to give Kineticist a chance. Telekineticist specifically even without your ruling on the DR.
Though I do miss out on alot of the fun stuff for ranger if I want to fill the Divine role.
Now Oracle of Battle is looking a bit better for a fit.
Though Flame is nice.
Aasimar will be race. The resistances handle most issues with cold environments. If I take flame that will handle hot.
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GM Rednal |
Telekinetic Blast doesn't benefit from special materials - not unless they errata it, anyway. Incidentally, I'm also fine with pretending it's just a wave of force visually (though it won't count as a force effect for any mechanical purposes). You'll generally be within 30 feet of your foes, so there's not much need to worry about things like Extended Range unless you try to draw enemies into the hallway. XD
Kinetic Blade is quite useful if you get into melee combat, by the way. There's not much choice in the early levels, and it may be worth nabbing.
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
Well reading in the description it specifically states you are picking up an object and throwing it. Which is why I asked. Because Later in the ability it calls out other things but never says doesn't count as special material for DR.
Telekinetic Blast (Sp): You throw whatever unattended object happens to be nearby at a single foe as a ranged attack. The object must weight 5 lbs. per kineticist level you possess or less. If you hit, the target and the thrown object each suffer an amount of bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing damage equal to 1d6+1 + your Constitution modifier. This damage increases by 1d6+1 for every 2 kineticist levels you possess beyond 1st. Spell resistance does not apply. Even if a telekineticist uses this power on a magic weapon or other unusual object, the attack does not use any of the magic weapon’s bonuses or effects and simply deals the telekineticist’s blast damage.
I do bypass DR/Magic though automatically.
All damage from a kinetic blast is treated as magic for the purpose of bypassing damage reduction.
Either way I think ill do Kineticist. Its worth a shot. Should be done shortly
Last Questions :
Equivilant wealth to 3rd level character?
Should I be Mythic Tier 1 or will that come later since i am coming into the game late?
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GM Rednal |
You bolded the wrong parts.
"Even if a telekineticist uses this power on a magic weapon or other unusual object, the attack does not use any of the magic weapon’s bonuses or effects". Special materials count as an effect - and, incidentally, there's a modification for Metal Blasts that lets it be treated like different kinds of metals that can overcome DR.
Equivalent wealth is 3000 GP, Mythic Tier 1 is fine (since they just got that).
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
Ahh, I was taking effects as Flaming ect.
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Jazzai Moonbreaker |
![Dragon-Charming Bard](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9434-Harpist_500.jpeg)
Sorry for the Wait. People wouldn't leave me alone to complete it.
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Virdania Scardotia |
![Sarenrae](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Sarenrae_final.jpg)
Greetings and salutations.
I made corrections when I noticed I hadn't added, Mythic, traits, and had incorrectly given her more cantrips known than she should have.
That is all added in and Profile is complete
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Virdania Scardotia |
![Sarenrae](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Sarenrae_final.jpg)
With limited spells known an additional Spell known fits me.
Happy Birthday to you and Three Cheers to many more!
Huzzah!
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Huzzah!
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Jason Fury |
![Gardner](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9035-Gardner.jpg)
Belated Happy Birthday! As a Sorc, a new spell would help a lot. :)
-Posted with Wayfinder
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Elliomander Ostarian |
![Aron Kir](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9074-Aron.jpg)
my posting rate may be a little bit low for the next couple days... i just cut the tip of my left pointer finger off with an axe (I have it held back on with some sterile gauze and duct tape, and i'd give it about a 66% chance to heal back on, but typing this way is awkward and uncomfortable).
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Virdania Scardotia |
![Sarenrae](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/Sarenrae_final.jpg)
Is anyone keeping track of Loot? If not I could do a google docs excel sheet if people want.