
Dilana Hemlock |

Sorry to hear about the fall. Also growing up before computers I hear you. I had stitches in a finger and just stopped using the computer for a while.

Elrys Valrassedin |

Actually, I believe the "votes" are more like this:
a) Let the mercenary go without his gear: 2 votes in favor (Erigga and Olimpia), 2 votes against (Elrys and Dilana), 1 indecisive (Raktar).
b) Let the mercenary go with just a warning or geas: 2 votes in favor (Elrys and Dilana), 2 votes against (Erigga and Olimpia), 1 indecisive (Raktar).
c) Kill the mercenary: 2 votes in favor (Erigga and Dilana), 1 vote against (Elrys), 2 votes unaccounted.
Options a) and b) are opposites, so one that votes in one of them are against the other. Option c) is an alternative, so even if no verdict is reached between the first 2, the third could be taken (like Dilana did). Dilana mentioned she doesn't care if the mercenary lives or dies. She is against sending him without his gear, but she is ok with we killing him.
Based on the posts, I believe Olimpia would have the same thought process of Erigga, with the hatred to the Technic League strong.
Raktar seems completely undecided, for while he appears to be in favor of letting the mercenary go, he appears concerned with letting Erigga and Olimpia decide as they were most affected by the league.
In the end, it appears most would be ok with killing the merc, even if there is no agreement in how to release him.
In the event of total disagreement and each one going for what they think is the best will still result in the man's death, since if Erigga goes first, Elrys can't geas the dead man, while if Elrys goes first, Erigga can still kill the man even after the spell.
Good summary. I should probably note that OOC I don't particularly mind much what happens to him and would slightly prefer someone taking the initiative, or be given permission to take initiative, to decide his fate one way or the other and simply continue the exploration of the scar. That was what I meant by 'perhaps whoever acts first can decide his fate'.

Elrys Valrassedin |

Right, I'm about to head off to the hospital, the kid should be born somewhere in the next 24 hours. I probably won't be able to post for the next 24 to 30 hours.
Feel free to continue on without me for a while! Elrys has some reservations about killing a prisoner but if that's what the majority of the party supports as an option then she will abide by it.
Btw, how is your hand, @GM_DBH?

GM_DBH |

Funny thing about falling onto the footpath, you end up with abrasions you don't notice? I got up the next morning with several scrapes I didn't know were there.
Good news is my right middle finger is not dislocated, bad news is that it is still black and swollen. Sub-dermal bruising as I tried to catch myself and bent the fingers too far back. I can bend the other fingers now, just not the middle. Being right handed I've discovered how much I rely on that hand.
I'm looking at tomorrow for a restart.
@Elrys. I hope everything is well with your wife and the birth.
Nice to see a polite discussion regarding murder. :)

Erigga Ironheart |

Have a friend that once had ruptured the ligament of his right hand middle finger. His main complaint: he could not wipe his ass properly.

Elrys Valrassedin |

@Erigga Priorities!
@DBH Yes, thanks for asking. In fact, he was born around 2 hours ago. Currently both him and his mom are sleeping. I am answering questions from all the familiy members in the meantime.
Edit: I wonder if my own priorities might be skewed as well?

Dilana Hemlock |

Congratulations. I was posting form the hospital for both our kids so your priorities seem fine to me. :)

Raktar Garnok |

Congratulations! Post now while you've got the energy and the mental faculties to do so!

Elrys Valrassedin |

Thanks everyone! :)

Erigga Ironheart |

I believe the pistol uses normal bullets, since it is not stated to be a tech item. It should deal 1d8 damage, x4 crit, 20ft. range, missfire on 1 and capacity for 1 bullet.

Erigga Ironheart |

Hum... planning my build I just noticed I took Armed Bravey at lvl 9, but it appears I wasn't allowed to do so as she did not gain weapon training 1 at lvl 5, so in fact at lvl 9 it would be weapon traning 1 and not weapon training 2, thus not allowing for advanced weapon training yet.
I believe Erigga had not made any Will save yet, so this mistake had not impacted the game. Will correct it later, taking weapon training 1 (heavy blades) and then Armed Bravey at lvl 13th when it should be allowed.

Elrys Valrassedin |

Hum... planning my build I just noticed I took Armed Bravey at lvl 9, but it appears I wasn't allowed to do so as she did not gain weapon training 1 at lvl 5, so in fact at lvl 9 it would be weapon traning 1 and not weapon training 2, thus not allowing for advanced weapon training yet.
I believe Erigga had not made any Will save yet, so this mistake had not impacted the game. Will correct it later, taking weapon training 1 (heavy blades) and then Armed Bravey at lvl 13th when it should be allowed.
On this subject, I noticed yesterday that I made Elrys without background skills, while this system is in effect. I'll add knowledge: engeneering as a background skill along with craft: siege engines. The 11 skill ranks that were already in knowledge engineering I'll just distribute between sense motive, diplomacy (1 rank) and spellcraft. I don't think it particularly matters since I haven't made or lost a critical check on either skill yet, but I could wait on level 12 if you all prefer this.

Erigga Ironheart |

Hum... Erigga also does not have Background skills. Looking at Raktar it appears he is using it, but I'm not sure about the others.
On the initial recruitment thread I also noticed the Background Skills on the rules. Is this a thing?

Erigga Ironheart |

Cool!
Will make the following adjustments then:
-11 normal skill points from Craft (mechanical)
-9 normal skill points from Knowledge (engineering)
Total: 20 skill points and 22 background points
+11 points on Craft (mechanical)
+11 points on Knowledge (engineering)
+1 point on Perception
+11 points on Sense Motive
+5 points on Survival
+3 points on Acrobatics

Elrys Valrassedin |

Everything ok with everyone? It's been a bit quiet here the few days, noticed it in some other PBP's as well. Well, more than usual weekends. Is/was there something special happening?

Erigga Ironheart |

As a rule I usually do not post anything during weekends (unless the other players/GM are waiting for me), which are quiet busy for me. Me and my wife are saving up to build our own house, so we are working literally seven days a week for about 2 years now (it will take us yet another year to do this), with only minimal breaks.
The small amount of time I get during weekends I spend with friends, with my wife (that is now pregnant with our first child), or relaxing a bit.

Elrys Valrassedin |

Ah, ok. Thanks for dropping a note! I noticed three seperate PBP's more or less suddenly halt last thursday and figured I'd ask. Probably a coincidence. (and hopefully not me :)

Olimpia Beta II |

Its certainly not you Elrys. :))
Erigga, that is so exciting. I just build a rather large shed type building with my wife. Its nice and has windows and even dormers. Learned a lot. It's mostly done but I am still going to wire it and run power to it. Will learn even more. :)

GM_DBH |

Just to let you know things may be slower over the week. The fall I took several weeks ago has slowly become very painful in my hip and knee. Walking is now hobbling and sitting down is painful. Thankfully the Doctor has given me some nice painkillers.
I'm now getting a x-ray done on my hip to make sure nothing is broken in there?

Raktar Garnok |

I tend not to post at weekends either unless I'm on call. During the week I post from my work laptop during lunch or downtime, but with a wife and two small children at home it's much harder to get time to post at the weekends.

Elrys Valrassedin |

Sounds rough :( Is there any improvement at all since the fall? Was that X-ray taken yet? (though I suppose that's none of my business)

GM_DBH |

No x-rays yet, but soon. The doctor doesn't think I've broken anything since I have the full range of movement, it just hurts to use it.
It looks as if I landed on my knee and drove the thigh bone into the joint, something is sprained or wrenched in there. I'm just wondering why it took several weeks to show up?
There has been a slight improvement in the condition, but doing anything that requires me walking is still very nasty.

Elrys Valrassedin |

No x-rays yet, but soon. The doctor doesn't think I've broken anything since I have the full range of movement, it just hurts to use it.
It looks as if I landed on my knee and drove the thigh bone into the joint, something is sprained or wrenched in there. I'm just wondering why it took several weeks to show up?
There has been a slight improvement in the condition, but doing anything that requires me walking is still very nasty.
Hm. It's outside my area of expertise, but during med school I learned about a condition called Avascular Head Necrosis. Essentially, the blood supply to the hip 'head' is fragile, and can become damaged by a trauma to the hip. This can gradually and slowly develop and/or increase pain when moving the hip, with the bone becoming more spongy and eventually breaking.
If the pain persists however, I expect your physician will still make the X-ray or an MRI to exclude this as a possibility well in time, along with others.

Raktar Garnok |

GM_DBH wrote:No x-rays yet, but soon. The doctor doesn't think I've broken anything since I have the full range of movement, it just hurts to use it.
It looks as if I landed on my knee and drove the thigh bone into the joint, something is sprained or wrenched in there. I'm just wondering why it took several weeks to show up?
There has been a slight improvement in the condition, but doing anything that requires me walking is still very nasty.
Hm. It's outside my area of expertise, but during med school I learned about a condition called Avascular Head Necrosis. Essentially, the blood supply to the hip 'head' is fragile, and can become damaged by a trauma to the hip. This can gradually and slowly develop and/or increase pain when moving the hip, with the bone becoming more spongy and eventually breaking.
If the pain persists however, I expect your physician will still make the X-ray or an MRI to exclude this as a possibility well in time, along with others.
Cool, another doctor! What's your specialty Elrys?

Elrys Valrassedin |

Elrys Valrassedin wrote:Cool, another doctor! What's your specialty Elrys?GM_DBH wrote:No x-rays yet, but soon. The doctor doesn't think I've broken anything since I have the full range of movement, it just hurts to use it.
It looks as if I landed on my knee and drove the thigh bone into the joint, something is sprained or wrenched in there. I'm just wondering why it took several weeks to show up?
There has been a slight improvement in the condition, but doing anything that requires me walking is still very nasty.
Hm. It's outside my area of expertise, but during med school I learned about a condition called Avascular Head Necrosis. Essentially, the blood supply to the hip 'head' is fragile, and can become damaged by a trauma to the hip. This can gradually and slowly develop and/or increase pain when moving the hip, with the bone becoming more spongy and eventually breaking.
If the pain persists however, I expect your physician will still make the X-ray or an MRI to exclude this as a possibility well in time, along with others.
Ah, cool indeed! My background is originally in geriatrics but i moved into insurance medicine when it proved to be slightly difficult to find work in that area. I think geriatrics was always extremely.popular in my university and that the competition for those spots upon graduation was very intense.
Insurance medicine is a nice field though. Very broad, is work directly for the Dutch government, it pays well for the time investment and it allows a lot of free time for hobby's and familiy matters.
What is your field, if i might ask?

Raktar Garnok |

Sounds pretty cool.
I'm a consultant in medical microbiology, and I'm the lead infection control doctor for a 1000 bed tertiary hospital and a large and mostly rural area. The last year has been pretty intense.

GM_DBH |

Since the Doctors all post here... My x-rays are back and seem to be a mixed result.
Fall in street with right knee impacted on ground.
Findings:
There is no periprosthetic fracture at the right knee. There is a
small joint effusion but no lipohaemarthrosis.
There is satisfactory alignment at the TKJR with no evidence of any
prosthetic loosening.
Chronic appearing severe arthritic changes essentially noted at the
left knee joint with evidence of previous surgery at the lateral
femoral condyle.
There is no fracture of the right femoral neck nor is there any
pelvis or pubic rami fracture.
Minor arthritic changes only at both hip joints to a similar degree.
So the knee I wasn't having problems with is in a bad way. :(
Everything else seems to be stay off your feet and let it heal.

Dilana Hemlock |

Wow that is rough. Living with that kind of pain all the time is the worst.

Erigga Ironheart |

Hehe, fighters can dish a lot of damage, specially when overly buffed and allowed to make a full attack. I thought it would last longer, though, considering it is incorporeal and Erigga's weapon is adamantine, thus would deal only half damage.
As far as I know, bleed overcomes DR, so Erigga was able to reduce only the normal damage, not the bleeding.

Elrys Valrassedin |

Then I claim that the exact first 7 points of Erigga's damage are from my buffs to steal the kill :P ...Wait, what? Incorporal and the damage buff was halved? Ah, drat!
That aside, my post will be a bit late today. I'll probably be in the hopsital with my son for the next 5 to 6 hours.

Erigga Ironheart |

It only had 6hp left when you hit it. :)
Really? Was it already damaged? Because since Elrys used Delay instead of Ready Action, her whole turn would happen after Erigga full turn and not trigger when she moves. This is just for fun of course, since the important is that the enemy is down and we live!

Elrys Valrassedin |

I hope you are just visiting with him and that everyone is done well?
They unfortunately missed something rather important until after his birth. He will probably make it but he needs multiple surgeries.

Elrys Valrassedin |

Well, if anything he is growing well and doing good on the preliminary measures. And the doctors here have a very good reputation. I'm sure he'll make it. (At least, that's what I tell myself. He has a 95% expected survival rate so he just not has to roll a 1...)

Raktar Garnok |

I hope everything goes OK Elrys. Look after your family first.

Erigga Ironheart |

@Raktar: Regarding your chainsaw, perhaps the GM could allow for some modification on it to turn into a sift action. Erigga has maxed Craft (mechanic) and Knowledge (engineering). I believe it will not break anything, considering you already paid the price of a feat to know how to use it.
EDIT: hehe, just noticed Elrys had already suggested this!

Erigga Ironheart |

But do you have the Technologist feat? Can't fix advanced machinery without it.
Yes, both Technologist and Craft Cybernetics.
Have even 2 feats to spare at levels 13th and 15th that could be used to take Craft Technological Arms and Armor and Craft Technological Item if the group needs them.

GM_DBH |
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As someone who has played through Iron Gods I will say they are both well worth the taking. Especially in the last two books.
I played a Cleric of Brigh who probably stuck more things inside his teammates than our enemies. :)
What our party did with the production lab at E was use Stone shape to seal the entrance. Switched the power from the defenses to the lab, and then teleported back to manufacture weapons and armor when needed.