The Last King of Ireland

Game Master Amergin the Wise


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Female Human Cleric 5 HP 30/47| AC 10/10/10 | CMB +3| CMD 13| F:4 R:1 W:8 | Init +0| Per +6

Only a couple more years and they'll be ready for canoe camping.

Really. I've spent a long weekend canoeing and camping at spots only available by water. 2 adults, a 5 year old and a 7 year old.

It's even possible to have fun.


...I am more of a glamping sort of fellow, and so is my wife!

Sorry for the delay: Canada Day + insane weather = weekend by the lake and no internet. I just got back and I am putting in a few hours 'cause 4-day weeks are the worst for me...

Long story short, I'll post tomorrow sans faute!


Female Human Cleric 5 HP 30/47| AC 10/10/10 | CMB +3| CMD 13| F:4 R:1 W:8 | Init +0| Per +6

And Fourth Of July is about to take a bite out of this week for the US contingent


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Yep!


Male CN Bard (Brazen Deceiver) 5 | HP: 56/56 | AC: 18 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +6, CMD: 19 | F: +3, R: +9, W: +4 | Init: +2 | Perc: +3, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Bardic Performance: 22/28 | Mythic Power: 1/5 | Spells: 1st 5/6, 2nd 2/5, 3rd 0/2 | Active conditions: 0 Non-lethal Damage.

Having camped for festivals etc, glamping sounds more appealing. ;)

No worries on the hiatus!


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

I found something for Aoife to do! XD

Also have fun camping man! Forgot to put that in the last one!


Male Human Ranger (Skirmisher) 4, Rogue (Waylayer) 1 | HP: 42/55 ( +5 mythic) |AC: 19 (T:14, FF:15) CMB: +7, CMD: 19| F: +5, R: +9, W: +3 | Init: +4(+1 surprise+2 woods) | Perc: +9| Speed 30ft | 2/26 breath

Really sorry guys, 1 thing after another! A new recruit at work, my second job and a one year old at home who has decided to start not sleeping again (camping didn't help, 5:30am she finally fell asleep and it was too hot for sleeping in a tent by 7:30!), I am exhausted and need some rest. Unfortunately that means my hobby time is taking a hit, and I have had to ditch a game, I was in. However, I still want to be involved in this one. Hopefully should be back with it towards the end of next week, just need to get some sleep and get my head into getting stuff off my workpile.
Sorry again.


No worries! It's the pre-weekend. Get some rest. And I'll endeavour to not move things along too quickly, next week :)


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Okay Thorun, it's all on you! No pressure! XD


Female Human Cleric 5 HP 30/47| AC 10/10/10 | CMB +3| CMD 13| F:4 R:1 W:8 | Init +0| Per +6

Gathering my medical supplies here in the background


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Well, Aoife's next level maybe in Barbarian after this... depending on how this goes.


Question: does Ruadhan stay to protect Conchobar at Thorun's side or rush forth to engage the archer, if possible?


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

He does have an emotion connection to Conchobar... sooo.... I don't know.


Female Human Cleric 5 HP 30/47| AC 10/10/10 | CMB +3| CMD 13| F:4 R:1 W:8 | Init +0| Per +6

My thoughts:

If he believes Conchobar is "safe", ie Cobhlaith will tend to him and Thorun will protect him, I think he will take out his bow and try to target the archer from where he currently stands if possible.

If not possible, then I suspect he'd move only as far away as necessary to get the other archer in range. He's also got Rapid Shot, for an extra attack at no penalty, I think


Male CN Bard (Brazen Deceiver) 5 | HP: 56/56 | AC: 18 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +6, CMD: 19 | F: +3, R: +9, W: +4 | Init: +2 | Perc: +3, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Bardic Performance: 22/28 | Mythic Power: 1/5 | Spells: 1st 5/6, 2nd 2/5, 3rd 0/2 | Active conditions: 0 Non-lethal Damage.

I'm inclined to agree with Cobhlaith's assessment.


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

GM, for mechanical purposes far is the person we're fairly sure caused all this? Not the archer the noble. I need to know if I'm learning over run or not.


Male CN Bard (Brazen Deceiver) 5 | HP: 56/56 | AC: 18 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +6, CMD: 19 | F: +3, R: +9, W: +4 | Init: +2 | Perc: +3, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Bardic Performance: 22/28 | Mythic Power: 1/5 | Spells: 1st 5/6, 2nd 2/5, 3rd 0/2 | Active conditions: 0 Non-lethal Damage.

I am unlikely to be able to post this weekend, just to let ye know.


O'Maolfabhail? Not so far. Certainly within 60'. But there are a whole bunch of people in the way...


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Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

That my dear GM is what the overrun is for. Improved over run, get out of my way or get knocked over.


Aoife FitzStephen wrote:
That my dear GM is what the overrun is for. Improved overrun, get out of my way or get knocked over.

...which begs the question: how do you all feel about Feat tax?


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

They annoy me greatly.
Also will have Aoife's post up in a bit. Just got home from work.


Male Human Barbarian (Superstitious) 7 AC 20, Touch 13, FF 18 | HP 105/105 | F +8, R +5, W +5 | Init +5 | Perc +12
Raging Stats:
AC 18, Touch 11, FF 16 | HP 119/119 | F +10, R +5, W +7 | Init +5 | Perc +12

What is feat tax?


Annoy you greatly... Meaning that the proposed rules to "fix" the feat tax annoy you, or that the fact that there is a supposed "feat tax" annoys you?

Feat tax


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

It annoys me greatly that I have to have feats that do nothing for me really or can only use in very specific cases that never come up in game play.


So let's apply the feat tax fix! Any objections?


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

I am okay with this!


Female Human Cleric 5 HP 30/47| AC 10/10/10 | CMB +3| CMD 13| F:4 R:1 W:8 | Init +0| Per +6

I don't think any of that applies to Cobhlaith, so I think it's fine.

Overall, it looks good for many of the more martial characters I play.


Male CN Bard (Brazen Deceiver) 5 | HP: 56/56 | AC: 18 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +6, CMD: 19 | F: +3, R: +9, W: +4 | Init: +2 | Perc: +3, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Bardic Performance: 22/28 | Mythic Power: 1/5 | Spells: 1st 5/6, 2nd 2/5, 3rd 0/2 | Active conditions: 0 Non-lethal Damage.

I think the Feat Tax house rules are some of the better ones out there. I absolutely support using them. Daire would get a slight upgrade to hitting with melee weapons with weapon finesse but it doesn't make a huge difference to him. I'm still in favour though, to be clear.

Also, Daire is finally using his bardic abilities! Hopefully not for the last time. ;)


Female Human Cleric 5 HP 30/47| AC 10/10/10 | CMB +3| CMD 13| F:4 R:1 W:8 | Init +0| Per +6

Way too early for our crowd, but look at this new discovery.

New Henge Discovered

Quote:

"When we saw this, we knew straight away, this had never been seen or recorded before."

A closer look revealed two concentric circles, the inner one evenly segmented.

They immediately sent pictures to archaeologists, who confirmed their suspicions. Murphy and his colleague, Ken Williams, had found the footprint of an ancient henge, or enclosure, that may be some 4,500 years old.


That's cool!

The next *very important* post is coming soon-ish. We are coming home from vacation tomorrow... Mind you, it wasn't much of a vacation as I worked pretty much every day!


Male CN Bard (Brazen Deceiver) 5 | HP: 56/56 | AC: 18 (14 Tch, 15 Fl) | CMB: +6, CMD: 19 | F: +3, R: +9, W: +4 | Init: +2 | Perc: +3, SM: +6 | Speed 30ft | Bardic Performance: 22/28 | Mythic Power: 1/5 | Spells: 1st 5/6, 2nd 2/5, 3rd 0/2 | Active conditions: 0 Non-lethal Damage.

The drought has been useful for something!


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Female Human Cleric 5 HP 30/47| AC 10/10/10 | CMB +3| CMD 13| F:4 R:1 W:8 | Init +0| Per +6
Amergin the Wise wrote:
The next *very important* post is coming soon-ish.

Remember to draft it somewhere else and then post it.


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Actually unless they readied an attack I take no AoO, Improved Overrun taken with the brawler ability waves that away.


Sorry! Didn't see that! They swing wide, and fail to land a blow!

...I am pretty sure that they weren't expected the charge, so they could not realistically have readied an attack, as far as I am concerned!


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Also at the end of the Overrun the target, and anyone she went over, is prone, can Aoife choose to fall to the ground with him?


I figured that the Overrun maneuver allowed you to pass through Sitric's guards. I am not sure that Overrun allows you to go through any number of opponents as the rules seem to suggest a single target.

That being said, I am also unsure if the Overrun maneuver is accomplished instead of the charge attack, or if the overrun maneuver is accomplished in the middle of a charge and therefore allows a charge attack as well.

The latter seems somewhat OP...?

As for falling with your prone target, I don't see why not. But unless I've got the rules all wrong – which could be the case as rules are generally not my strong suit! – I think that Sitric is still standing...


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Overrun is a Combat maneuver, this it can be taken in place of an attack such as Combat maneuvers go. No, Aoife would not get an attack at the end of her Overrun. It eats that.


Got it. Remains the question: one target? multiple targets?


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

That is actually debated. I've heard causes for both and have played with it both ways. So it won't bother me with your ruling either way. But I do just warn you that Combat maneuvers are a large part of the brawler stuff with their marshal ability to grab the feat out of thin air and use it.

If you like I can from now on post the maneuvers here to get your ruling before rolling for them?


Female Human Cleric 5 HP 30/47| AC 10/10/10 | CMB +3| CMD 13| F:4 R:1 W:8 | Init +0| Per +6

I don't know enough to comment, but if I see anything relevant, I'll link it here.


Overrun seems to be the only one that is confusing as far as I can tell. But don't get me wrong: I love combat maneuvers! Great way to allow warriors more flavour!

The Feat tax will help, in due time...


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Did Aoife beat his CMD by 5 or more? If so he is prone, if not then they're both standing. I just need to know because if he's on the ground she's going to try and pin him.

Edit: What Improved Overrun does btw
You do not provoke an attack of opportunity when performing an overrun combat maneuver. In addition, you receive a +2 bonus on checks made to overrun a foe. You also receive a +2 bonus to your Combat Maneuver Defense whenever an opponent tries to overrun you. Targets of your overrun attempt may not chose to avoid you.

So her roll should be 2 higher but I'm not that worried about it.


The question is: can you overrun multiple opponents.

To be clear: there was a guard between you and Sitric. And he fell prone. My assumption was that you overran him to get to the king...


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

I'm cool if that is how you want to rule this scene!

As to the question: again it alters based on the GM, heard parts for both sides. I'll go with whatever you choose.

Also if it would help you can just call it a Bull Rush, because it pretty much does the same thing and it well known for hitting multiple people.


Let's keep the scene as is – with Sitric and Aoife standing face to face – and we'll continue discussing combat maneuvers for future reference!


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

I like this plan! It is a good plan, Aoife is gonna go cut a moron now! ^_^


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Also, I had chosen Power Attack as a feat before the ruling about those feats so... may I chose a new feat?


You mean the Feat Tax? Not in effect yet. I'll say go after this fight, and thus give everyone a chance to do their homework and re-evaluate their builds accordingly...


Female Human Fighter(Two-Weapon Warrior) 3/Brawler 4 AC 21, Touch 15, FF 17 | HP 53/53 | F +10, R +9, W +2 | Init +3 | Perc +11

Okay, wanted to make sure before I did my formulas and everything!

Also I know I said cut... but this is the first time she'll get to punch and I just see her being so out of it to forget the blades at her side.

And... Daaamn, Aoife be scary! >.<


Male Human Barbarian (Superstitious) 7 AC 20, Touch 13, FF 18 | HP 105/105 | F +8, R +5, W +5 | Init +5 | Perc +12
Raging Stats:
AC 18, Touch 11, FF 16 | HP 119/119 | F +10, R +5, W +7 | Init +5 | Perc +12

Now that I do the math, barbarians are really REALLY hard to get away from...scary.

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