I have risen!!
Just caught up on the discussion stuff, will jump to the in game thread now, and get a post up from Ace, if needed.
Dalesman, I'm fine with Ace doing whatever, as this is really out of his control. It doesn't matter how is able to help bring Fei back, just that he does.
Just got back home, and the wife's down with a migraine :(
Since she's trying to sleep, I think I can keep an eye on the thread for a bit and help as needed.
Ace - I think what I sent you this morning about the specific nanites should still work, and be a fitting 'Hail Mary Pass'.
Are we still having issues with the gathering, or are we going with a combo of Tybs, Rosa and Vai? (Figured it would be easier to just ask) ;)
Vai is on it, Fireclaw PM'd me an idea that I've already went with in game.
Okay, sounds good. I'll just try to shut up and enjoy the storytelling then ;)
pm tybs.
Oh, and 5th block is study period for harmonious, if anyone wants a side-track.
You know what I wish I had right now? Enough motivation to get Taron to talk to Tamrin.
Well....it would certainly be awkward timing since the infirmary just paged Tamrin to come deal with Aananda since she's being all difficult. :)
Krays did I forget something or did I not explain myself well, or was I simply jumping the gun?
Awkward timing you say?
Yep, pretty much as awkward as it gets since if Tam does go to the infirmary he gets to find out some shouldn't-really-be-surprising news. :)
Lyn, a few things on that list i might need you to approve. The rest is rather standard fleshwarping. I will put these in a spoiler. If you think they are too much, I'll change them. (I don't think they are.) Dave, only look if you are worried I'll screw Dave up.
One of these may occur, depending on my roll...
A chance to apply 2 or 3 changes within normal flesh-warping expectations.
gain firebird like anatomy- consumption of food is similar, and cold is unpleasant and painful to touch, but causes no actual harm. (He is Cold immune)
settro accidentally gets some of his blood in the ichor. (He has spare vials of it.)This causes Dave to assume a somewhat more demonic appearance, register as evil as if under the effects of infernal healing, take a -2 to charisma, gain "armor of the pit" and count as a teifling for feats. This often fights with his angelic side, causing -2 hp per level.
real flesh- remove diamond template, (except stat changes) apply +6 dex, fire subtype, firebird-like anatomy, + 4 fly and +4 acrobatics. (Basically, firebird flesh takes over.)
over absorbing flame- on contact with people, you make them very cold, automatically stealing heat.To things with the fire subtype, this deals 2d6 cold dmg a round, healing Dave equally. Fire subtype.
83 extreme result- roll again, take result farther then expected
100- firebird form- gain most abilities of firebirds, but bloodline weakens, dropping to lv 10 without the cloak's influence, 14 with it.
Abilities include- 1:1 healing, bird form, stat adjustment, subtype, "real flesh" and diet.
If 83 and then 100 somehow happens, he loses his bloodline completely, reassigning itself to fire, gains the feats of a firebird, and as far as everything is concerned, is one.
As normal, fleshwarping is hard to remove, as it changes true form with it. to revert, it takes a wish, miracle, or reality revision. NOT a polymorph effect. (Limited wish may work in this setting.)
The only two that worry me are the ones that remove my Damond template and the one that lowers my bloodline,
espically the latter one,
His at lvl 14 I would loose my curse and cold immunity, my flight would be gone, and given that I have maxed out fly/acrobatics, and spent several feats on them...
The former, loosing my sword would also be a big thing given that I have devoted several feats to it as well, it could be changed to, lowering the temp hp and/or the natural armor,
Other than those two, there is nothing in there that would require a complete overhaul of my character, one or two that I would be nervous about but nothing too supercritical
Awkward timing you say?Yep, pretty much as awkward as it gets since if Tam does go to the infirmary he gets to find out some shouldn't-really-be-surprising news. :)
Highly tempting.
"Mom, why do my children say the Hatchery is going to get more... Oh, hey, Dad." >.>
The only two that worry me are the ones that remove my Damond template and the one that lowers my bloodline,
espically the latter one,
His at lvl 14 I would loose my curse and cold immunity, my flight would be gone, and given that I have maxed out fly/acrobatics, and spent several feats on them...
The former, loosing my sword would also be a big thing given that I have devoted several feats to it as well, it could be changed to, lowering the temp hp and/or the natural armor,
Other than those two, there is nothing in there that would require a complete overhaul of my character, one or two that I would be nervous about but nothing too supercritical
Ok, now, don't forget, chance of having bloodline lowered- 1/100
The other one- low chance, and Stettro may very well try and help remedy the problem. I can restrict the flesh one to just the firebird, but a firebird immune to cold... Ugg. If i can't take some of the bloodline, I'll just remove that option entirely. I cold immune firebird doesn't sit right with me.
I'm already immune to both, and any firebird who could afford one could buy any of a half dozen items that confer that immunity
But Ok remove my immunity if you must
Replace it with take half damage from cold, after cold resistance, it makes sense -100%+50%-specific quantity of resistance
What he is likely to get- 1:3 fire heal, less efficient. He gains weakness to cold... But he's immune. Fortunately, fleshwarping has other negative effects... And a firebird in general is much more fragile then Dave.
Ardiente has no money :P
Lowborn soldier (now orphaned)... yeah.
Luckily, the school is free. ;)
Besides, my character has to have SOME weaknesses. ;D
I'm already immune to both, and any firebird who could afford one could buy any of a half dozen items that confer that immunity
But Ok remove my immunity if you must
Replace it with take half damage from cold, after cold resistance, it makes sense -100%+50%-specific quantity of resistance
I only intend to do so on a roll that gives you firebird traits. If you get that, it reduces your bloodline ability, thus removing immunity. You also get a bird form, so you still fly. Now, your specialization, other then specific weapon focus, should be allowed to be gradually reassigned. (The one downside of specific weapon focus is for it to be unchangeable)
Ardiente has no money :P
Lowborn soldier (now orphaned)... yeah.
Luckily, the school is free. ;)
Besides, my character has to have SOME weaknesses. ;D
Settro's only weakness is when he gets pissed, he demonic side takes over...
Oh, and he can be banished without his shackles, to a plane that will kill him...
And when he does wear them, he can't teleport. At all.
Apologies to the people who are waiting for PM replies from me. I am having trouble with the site, and am out of break time anyway.
More coming when I get home in about an hour (and some change)!
Dave, I'm gonna put this out here as a you know this a bad idea right? Like epic fail kind of bad idea? Like if you do this you are going to end up having to rebuild your character kind of bad idea. I'm not sure firebird blood vs ice linnorm blood wouldn't just outright kill you. I need to do some reading up on fleshwarping.
Dave, I'm gonna put this out here as a you know this a bad idea right? Like epic fail kind of bad idea? Like if you do this you are going to end up having to rebuild your character kind of bad idea. I'm not sure firebird blood vs ice linnorm blood wouldn't just outright kill you. I need to do some reading up on fleshwarping.
Actually, fleshwarping can be steered in a direction that is rather stable. He is trying to mimic one feature- but on one some of the rolls... Yeah, it could screw him up. I told him, numerous times, this would be risky. Flesh-warping that isn't done by drow is only commanded by the dm and the player.
The entire chart i planned...
1-5 patchy bird parts. Rather messed up, structure lightens, eyes see farther. -4con, -4 cha, +4 dex. +4 perception
6-15 cosmetic changes and a more fragile frame -4 con. +4 acrobatics
16- roll 3 times, rerolling results of 16 or 36-50
17-19 constantly on fire.
20-25 wing-like arms- -4 dex, -2 on attack rolls. +4 fly and acrobatics.
26-30 fire plumage coated body- heat aura- within 10 feet, temperature climbs by a degree a round.Contact causes 1d4 fire damage(no effect on self.)
30-35thinned bones- -4 con, -4 str, +4 dex, +4 fly, -50 lb. Bones are fragile.
36-50- roll twice, ignoring further rolls of 36-50 or 16.
51 surprisingly successful- fire subtype, 1:1 healing. +4 dex, -4 con and str.
52-55useless modification (total fail) pointless talons, more wing like arms.
-2 dex. No other effect. Re-roll if received from 36-50or 16.
56-65bestial mind- +4 con, -4 cha, -4 wis. +4 perception and handle animal
66-70 effect works with no flaw save slight malformations.
71-80 gain firebird like anatomy- consumption of food is similar, and cold if unpleasant and painful to touch, but causes no actual harm. (Cold immune)
81-82 peri blood sticks out more. +2 wis, +2 con. Looks more angelic.
83 extreme result- roll again, take result farther then expected.
84-85thinned muscles- -4 con, -4 str. -60 lb. No positive.
86-88 settro accidentally gets some of his blood in the ichor. (He has spare vials of it.)This causes Dave to assume a somewhat more demonic appearance, register as evil as if under the effects of infernal healing, take a -2 to charisma, gain "armor of the pit" and count as a teifling for feats. This often fights with his angelic side, causing -2 hp per level.
89-90 real flesh- remove diamond template, (except stat changes) apply +6 dex, fire subtype, firebird-like anatomy, + 4 fly and +4 acrobatics.
91-95 over absorbing flame- on contact with people, you make them very cold, automatically stealing heat.To things with the fire subtype, this deals 2d6 cold dmg a round, healing Dave equally. 1:1 fire healing. Fire subtype.
96-99 extra set of wings. Often get in the way. -4 dodge, +4 fly, +4 acrobatics, +10 fly speed.
100- firebird form- gain most abilities of firebirds, but bloodline weakens, dropping to lv 10 without the cloak's influence, 14 with it.
Abilities include- 1:1 healing, bird form, stat adjustment, subtype, "real flesh" and diet.
If 83 and then 100 somehow happens, he loses his bloodline completely, reassigning itself to fire, gains the feats of a firebird, and as far as everything is concerned, is one.
As normal, fleshwarping is hard to remove, as it changes true form with it. to revert, it takes a wish, miracle, or reality revision. NOT a polymorph effect.
No, Fleshcrafting is, and even then with immunity, it tends to work anyway. Demons can be fleshcrafted.
Ok, now, if you want, I'll just retcon this. It's a mess, apparently. Why must everything i do cause controversy?
And so 'Operation: Dyson' begins...
;D
And so 'Operation: Dyson' begins...
;D
What?
Fleshwarping can either give you driders or Wolverine....just depends on how you go about it and what reagents you use. (I'm a fast reader.)
Edit: icehawk there's nothing wrong with what you're doing. I am going to add some edits to your table to better reflect firebird physiology, but you're in the right about there needing to be consequences. And I think Dave's ice linnorm heritage may up his DC vs Con drain during the procedure. I was trying to make sure that Dave knew what he was getting into and was willing to sacrifice the character as he currently exists because if he goes ahead with this I expect him to live with the consequences.
Fleshwarping can either give you driders or Wolverine....just depends on how you go about it and what reagents you use. (I'm a fast reader.)
It can mimic any effect from any creature of similar or less cr, as per the simple flesh-warp template. +4 to one stat -4 to two, +4 to 2 skills.
Awkward timing you say?Yep, pretty much as awkward as it gets since if Tam does go to the infirmary he gets to find out some shouldn't-really-be-surprising news. :)Highly tempting.
"Mom, why do my children say the Hatchery is going to get more... Oh, hey, Dad." >.>
I don't see what the big deal is. The conversation would be pretty straightforward...:
See? Not awkward at all. Why you gotta keep looking for drama? (^-^)
Fleshwarping can either give you driders or Wolverine....just depends on how you go about it and what reagents you use. (I'm a fast reader.)
Edit: icehawk there's nothing wrong with what you're doing. I am going to add some edits to your table to better reflect firebird physiology, but you're in the right about there needing to be consequences. And I think Dave's ice linnorm heritage may up his DC vs Con drain during the procedure. I was trying to make sure that Dave knew what he was getting into and was willing to sacrifice the character as he currently exists because if he goes ahead with this I expect him to live with the consequences.
EDIT:
Alright. I did too, perhaps he didn't understand "risky". (Short version of the 10+ rants i gave him on how unstable this was. Sure, i can usually guarantee a main result, but the side effects are... Not so easy to determine.
What?And so 'Operation: Dyson' begins...
;D
I think he's referring to the efforts to 'vacuum up' all the stray pieces of Fei. :)
Great, I'm going to get shot. (>.<)
I think he's referring to the efforts to 'vacuum up' all the stray pieces of Fei. :)What?And so 'Operation: Dyson' begins...
;D
Yep yep (^-^)
"Gonna wash that Fei right outta my hair...." ;P
... ... ... Oh. I get it now. Ha. Haha.
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Great, I'm going to get shot. (>.<)
Well, on the bright side you'd already be in the infirmary. ;P
Not. Helping.
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Not. Helping.
*sigh*
Taron, your dad is not going to shoot you. Threaten maybe. Actually shoot, no.
that better?
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Although.. the Wards aren't protecting Taron right now... Hm.
;D
Ace: In case it wasn't obvious, Vai's last post was supposed to be a lead in to whatever magnificence you fine gents had planned for this cantrip.
;D
Note- it was planned that no matter the roll (exept the total fail one) he will get 1/3 point healing from fire. Just confirming this was understood.
Note- it was planned that no matter the roll (exept the total fail one) he will get 1/3 point healing from fire. Just confirming this was understood.
Ah, good to know. I'll get you the edited table as soon as possible, but I'm writing essays for finals, taking care of sick kidlet, etc. So it may take a while. At our current pace I can't imagine it will become relevant before I'm done with it so it shouldn't be a problem.
He could just shoot him/her with a heal or other benevolent spell to get it out of his system . . . .
Krays did I forget something or did I not explain myself well, or was I simply jumping the gun?
No it's all good, I just over-thought it. No biggie.
Looks like my sweety's up, so I'll be AFK for a while. I'll try to check back in later and see how it's going.
Vai-I think once you get several minutes of that spell in, there should be enough nanites gathered for the command code to kick in. If I read that right, of course..
Just got home from what was supposed to have been a much longer trip to the library, where I found out the gentleman who was the welcome desk worker, and a dear and mentor had suddenly passed away over the weekend.
Will reply in a few.
Tybalt, healing con drain before the fleshwarping is finished means it must be started all over again. And no, it won't become relevant soon, because it takes 1d6 days. He doesn't have to be secluded all that time, but for 1 hour a day until the last day, iv'e got to work on him. The last day may take longer. Since Dave sleeps 4 hours because of guarded sleep, and settro sleeps two because godling feat, it will probobly happen late enough that it won't bother others. (rather quick interaction, really. Most likely, it will pretty much be
Settro- shut up and stop screaming! I can't concentrate enough to drain your pain and inject you at the same time! You've only have to deal with this for a minute, not an hour an hour or two for most pepole. So shut up.
Dave- *whine*
Dave owned count - 1
Ok... Maybe I'm a little bias...
XD
Was talking bout Tamrin. . .
And quite honestly...if Dave is not in pain think of it like this.... Person with diamond skin gets hurt about as often as Renkai tells the truth.... So person's reaction to the pain would be heightened