Teeth of the Storm - GM Iliad

Game Master HolmesandWatson

The Pathfinder Society has hired adventurers to investigate the abandoned Shadowed Keep on the Borderlands. But en route they discover a massacred merchant wagon. Who, or what, is responsible? And are they still around?


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Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

I liked the first combat on the bridge. Initially I thought I would be quite useless, given I'm only somewhat good with the bow, but I think the Grease spell came in handy, as did the Inspire Courage (though minimally so).

I agree that the map is the most time-consuming part of running combat for a DM, which is why I suggested a web-based map so that players can move their own tokens without you having to do it for them - this would cut down the work for you by half? Less work for you means more fun for you - which means more fun for us? :)

I may have an alternative to roll20 for you, its not as pretty, but i use it on another forum that I play in. Will drop you a pm after setting up a test map.

Edit: I'm fairly new to the Paizo boards and can't seem to figure how to get notifications for new posts aside from RSS feeds. On other forums I can configure such that I get an email alert telling me there is a new post in the game i'm playing, instead of having to check every few minutes. Does anyone know if there's a workaround for this?


Convergence of RL events has me off game for a day or two. Will get it going again shortly. Thanks!


Male Human Cleric 1

Zane all I got to say is nice. wow that vaptured the feelung well.


Will be back into the game tomorrow evening (my wife and son leave tomorrow for an etended vacation to the other side of the world. Things are crazy). Thanks for hanging in there.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Ranger 1 HP 8/13| AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | CMD 17 | F +4 R +6 W +1| Init+4 | Perc+5 | SM

Thanks for the kind word Gyness, both here and in PM. I was not under the impression that it was something special, but I do try to give my best from time to time ;-)

GM Iliad - no worries, we all get RL issues sometimes.


Male Human Cleric 1

GM Iliad - hope all is well and selfishly I can't wait. Love the way this thing keeps on twisting.


And, we're back!

I did get the chrome plug in for IE and can access roll20 at work (though it doesn't work with ipad).

I will tinker with it a bit. If it looks like the way to go, I'll have each of you create an account and see if you can use it. This is more of a long term project, though.


Campaign Guide is updated with NPCs and the Journal.

If somebody wants to type up better battle logs and IM them to me, that's great (try to keep them under novel length). I'd like to have better ones in there, but that's one thing I just don't have time for.

I put up a request to paizo that they add a journal/log tab here in the gameplay threads. I think that would be pretty handy.


Male Human Cleric 1

Woohoo lets.rock and.roll


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3
GM Iliad wrote:

And, we're back!

I did get the chrome plug in for IE and can access roll20 at work (though it doesn't work with ipad).

I will tinker with it a bit. If it looks like the way to go, I'll have each of you create an account and see if you can use it. This is more of a long term project, though.

awesome, let me know if you have any questions. I'll try and answer them, if i can.


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

What would it take for Lucien to cast Detect Magic without looking like he's casting at all?


@Lucien -
It's both verbal and somatic;
The group is getting Yrana's attention at present;
You're in a well lit room.

I'll give you a 20% chance if you want to try and pull it off (80-100 on a d100 roll).


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

So I can't, say, make a bluff check to disguise the action?


How familiar will we be with vampires? Would religious knowledge help? I'm asking before we react to the garlic, as I'm out of character feeling a strong AWIL déjà vu.


@Lucien. Bluff
I can't see that fitting your circumstances. I will go with this, though:

Sing a song to the house and you can have a 25% chance of succesfully sneaking a Detect Magic into the performance.

Of course, someone might not be happy if the 75% comes up.

@Corvus
Yes, a Knowledge Religion check could help with vampires. Though you'd need to clearly explain how you are using the check.


My logic is this. We've seen a werewolf and now we're being served very strong garlic. My character is applying a some deductive reasoning and wondering vampires. I suppose I'd like to do a knowledge check for any other signs - obvious religious symbols on display/ being worn, lots of mirrors, that sort of thing.

In my eyes, this would confirm to Corvus what she's on the look-out for.


While I don't mind checking out roll20.net, it occurred to me that if one of you can't access it regularly, it won't be much use in the immediate future: ie, this campaign.

Can each of you check it out and see if you can access it? As I mentioned, I had to use the google chrome plug in for explorer, which seems to work fine.

Also, it doesn't work with ipad. I have an ipad but I don't use it for our game.

If everybody can use it okay, I'll start learning maps on it.

BTW, it's free.

@Corvus - got it. Will respond in game.


If any of you are into pirate-themed RPGing, you might check out the Razor Coast kickstarter.

If you don't know Frog God Games, they are the successor company of Necromancer Games. Necromancer made pretty much my favorite third edition adventures. They're best known for Rappan Athuk, but they put out quite a few EXCELLENT products.

Frog God published the Slumbering Tsar adventure path and the Northlands saga, among other stuff. And Frog God is coming out with a campaign setting that will include both their stuff and Necromancer's.

I've got almost a dozen Frog God products and they produce top notch stuff. I'm in at the $50 level of Razor Coast, which is a pdf of the player's guide and the campaign book.

Obviously, no pressure, but if you do like piratey play, I'm pretty certain you will be very happy with Razor Coast.


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

I think I'll pass on the song and detect magic.


Aww, Lucien. Was giving you center stage to display your bardic prowess...


In case I created confusion in this campaign as well as the other:

We'd only be using roll20 for the mapping. Instead of clicking onto the maps I've been uploading to my website, you'd go over to roll20 and look at the map. No interactive anything: just a better looking map.

Everything else stays here on this thread: We wouldn't be using the virtual table top or any of that. I'm just looking for an alternative mapping solution.


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

My luck with dice so far hasn't been that good though. It was tempting, but I really didn't want to put the party in a bad spot.


Skills :
Acrobatics +8, Appraise +6, Bluff +4, Climb +6, Disable Device +10, Disguise +4, Escape Artist +8, Knowledge (local) +6, Perception +4 (+5 to locate traps), Sleight of Hand +8, Stealth +8, Use Magic Device +5
Init +6; Perception +4 AC 18, touch 15, flat-footed 13 (+3 Armor, +4 Dex, +1 dodge) hp 4/8 (1d8) Fort +0, Ref +6, Will +0 Base Atk +0; CMB +2; CMD 17

roll 20 account created


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3
GM Iliad wrote:

In case I created confusion in this campaign as well as the other:

We'd only be using roll20 for the mapping. Instead of clicking onto the maps I've been uploading to my website, you'd go over to roll20 and look at the map. No interactive anything: just a better looking map.

Everything else stays here on this thread: We wouldn't be using the virtual table top or any of that. I'm just looking for an alternative mapping solution.

Will you be allowing us to move and control our own PC icons maybe later on?


Opend an account but I'm someone else that largely uses an iPad for posting.


I post mainly from work and can't access it


Ok. Two out of five who would have primary problems posting to roll20. That's out for this campaign. No biggie.

I'm sure you'll grow to love my Excel maps...


Male Human Cleric 1

maps is maps

okay off work need another ale... no seriously I'm getting another ale.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Ranger 1 HP 8/13| AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | CMD 17 | F +4 R +6 W +1| Init+4 | Perc+5 | SM

@GM Iliad - honestly I have (still) no idea how roll20 works with maps, and similar to Corvus I post mostly from iPad and/or work. On iPad it's...buggy to say the least, and I was swamped at work to try today. I could try on Monday though. Anyway, simple question - can't you just make maps in roll20 (or your favourite mapping app), just take a screenshot and then post that here? Too much job, not doable? I'm sorry if it is a silly question, I am not very knowledgeable on Information technologies.


OK - spider sense is really tingling now...aversion to garlic and won't enter the room without an invitation. I'll use the dice to take it from here.


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

Roll20 is actually viewable from iPad and Android... if you (or the GM of the campaign) is a subscriber, which costs somewhere in the area of $5 a month.

I do support roll20, so I will be able to access the map using my Android tablet, however I do completely understand that not everyone will want to pay a fee, much less a recurring one.

I have another alternative, from another site which I play at. If you guys could give some feedback as to whether you can view the map here: http://www.pbpmap.com/maps/HATE2/map.php

Its not as pretty as roll20, but its free.


I can definitely see it on the iPad.


Male Human Cleric 1

Visible on my android phone


its blocked from work for me


I appreciate Lucien coming up with an alternative to save me some work. But it's not quite right for this campaign, so we'll skip it.

Who knows: Paizo tabletop may end up helping..


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

Wow, I see Corvus and I posted within seconds of each other and quoted the same line.

Must be a hint to the DM (psst, we need some rest.)^^


Mwaaa haa haaa...


Male Human Cleric 1

My records show I have 3 more channels and 1 first level spell left. GM do you show the same?


@Gyness - You have 7 channel and used 4. Plus Cure Light Wounds and Detect Magic. Unless I missed one, I agree on 3 channels and 1 spell left.


Male Human Cleric 1

Uhh I wasn't planning on engaging it but on that note if desmond was at full defense he would have a AC of 29. Not that i want to try it cause he would kill you on a crit

edit phone post lol


Male Human Cleric 1

LOL Cleric was calling the bluff... oops no bluff real troll.


Argh. It would have come out shortly that it was a troll, but I didn't mean to type that out yet. That's what I get for rushing a post during work.

BTW: I don't think I mentioned this, but you guys are doing a great job. Posting time has been good and game posts have been spot on. I have no complaints running this so far. Thanks.


Well it is demoralized this round assuming its a normal troll, but yeah I was not crazy about fighting this thing. I just didn't want it to come inside.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Ranger 1 HP 8/13| AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | CMD 17 | F +4 R +6 W +1| Init+4 | Perc+5 | SM

Come on you guys, it's only a single troll. We can take him... ;-) NOT!!!


Male Human Cleric 1

Technically if Desmond kept him busy and full defensed we all could shoot it full if hiles and than burn it once it fell but all it would need is one critical to take out Desmond.


Sure, but when the rust monster hiding under the porch came out and touched Desmond's shield and/or armor....

Wait, I've said too much


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

I'm a bit confused... didn't he say the troll was his son?


Male Human Cleric 1

No his son attacked the lady the troll was just asleep under the bridge and woke up after we kicked some major butt.

Time for another ale no really I need a drink.


Male Elf Bard 1 HP 9/9 | AC 16 | T 13 | FF 13 | Init +3

If the troll is unrelated to the son, why does it seem to be hunting him? Or are they related in some other way?

Especially if the son and the attack on the caravan have an undead thing going and the troll isn't undead?

Get one for me man.

Liberty's Edge

Male Human Ranger 1 HP 8/13| AC 18 T 14 FF 14 | CMD 17 | F +4 R +6 W +1| Init+4 | Perc+5 | SM
Lucien Moonbow wrote:

If the troll is unrelated to the son, why does it seem to be hunting him? Or are they related in some other way?

Especially if the son and the attack on the caravan have an undead thing going and the troll isn't undead?

Get one for me man.

My thoughts exactly - Zane can not grasp in any way what troll have to do with "undead son"? But with a roll of 1 on Sense motive, I guess I'll never know :-(

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