
Evelyn Mastercroft |

I just feel like the Bard, Barbarian, and Paladin are really well balanced classes with lots of options and different approaches with each. Between the three you have good spellcasting, lots of buff and some debuff potential, huge amounts of damage and various different combat utilities at your disposal. Heck, and Bards are pretty much the ultimate skill monkey. XD
My preferences of course. But I really enjoy those three classes.
/pseudo-rant

Nessus Gris |

At the moment:
We miss a divine caster and another healer (paladins can heal a bit, not at this level of course...).
We get 17 skill ranks in total (but not spread over 17 different skills).
The minimum Charisma is 14. Nice. This gives us 3 faces.
None of us has UMD. If we won't have a divine caster that could be a problem.
We have a weight problem. Two of us already are on medium load (I am, but I don't go into melee and except for the movement in combat I could just ignore this).
Is there something else I'm missing?

Evelyn Mastercroft |

I'm wearing medium armor that slows me down as much as a medium load, has a lower max dex than medium allows for, and incurs as much of an ACP as my armor, so I don't mind medium load atm. As such, I can carry almost 100 more lbs. Almost.
I concur. I can do virtually nothing about healing until level 4. Lay on hands will only get me 1d6+1 starting next level, but hopefully I can use that to keep aggro.
If I were a half-elf in the truest sense, I would take Use Magic Device. As it stands though, it's not a class skill. I COULD take it anyway if worse comes to worse.

ElderScrolls_GM |

Very insightful, Nessus. *insta-deaths you*
JK!
Let's see let's see let's see here.
Tbh, almost all of the enemies are melee based, though a few of the tougher CR 15 guys will give you a run for your money if you don't have healing.
I have not looked over your skills intensely yet-
Anybody got survival at all? ;) If not, well....
Cyrodil's weather, when Oblivion Gates are active, is not, let's say, the GREATEST place to navigate, even when you are on the road :)

Nessus Gris |
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I'm wearing medium armor that slows me down as much as a medium load, has a lower max dex than medium allows for, and incurs as much of an ACP as my armor, so I don't mind medium load atm. As such, I can carry almost 100 more lbs. Almost.
I concur. I can do virtually nothing about healing until level 4. Lay on hands will only get me 1d6+1 starting next level, but hopefully I can use that to keep aggro.
If I were a half-elf in the truest sense, I would take Use Magic Device. As it stands though, it's not a class skill. I COULD take it anyway if worse comes to worse.
Bretons are half-elf. Not only for the subtype, they are actually Altmers who bred with humans(Link). If it's necessary I'll take UMD (7 ranks per level).

ElMustacho |
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Very insightful, Nessus. *insta-deaths you*
JK!
Let's see let's see let's see here.
Tbh, almost all of the enemies are melee based, though a few of the tougher CR 15 guys will give you a run for your money if you don't have healing.
I have not looked over your skills intensely yet-
Anybody got survival at all? ;) If not, well....Cyrodil's weather, when Oblivion Gates are active, is not, let's say, the GREATEST place to navigate, even when you are on the road :)
To be 100% honest, roads are more dangerous than forests/hills/swamps. At any moment in the game. I tried that (with an unkillable pc, just for tests). And not, I did't used TGM.

Scaffold Kane |
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Evelyn Mastercroft wrote:I'm wearing medium armor that slows me down as much as a medium load, has a lower max dex than medium allows for, and incurs as much of an ACP as my armor, so I don't mind medium load atm. As such, I can carry almost 100 more lbs. Almost.
I concur. I can do virtually nothing about healing until level 4. Lay on hands will only get me 1d6+1 starting next level, but hopefully I can use that to keep aggro.
If I were a half-elf in the truest sense, I would take Use Magic Device. As it stands though, it's not a class skill. I COULD take it anyway if worse comes to worse.
Bretons are half-elf. Not only for the subtype, they are actually Altmers who bred with humans(Link). If it's necessary I'll take UMD (7 ranks per level).
I'm aware. That's why I made my custom Breton human and elf. I meant for a racial trait.

ElderScrolls_GM |

Actually, speaking of insight-
Thieves Guild Members- Tell me what you are looking for, in conclusion, to gain from the Thieves Guild.
Fighter's Guild: Evelyn, tell me Shield-Maiden, what are YOU looking to get out of the Fighter's Guild?
After all, we ARE re-writing Elder Scrolls, so don't go too crazy, but gimme some feed back. I'll be building both of their side quest lines this Monday.

Nessus Gris |

I heard that the Gray Cowl of Nocturnal has the ability to hide memories from everyone. Maybe there's a way to use that power to violate the Vanto's Third Law, gaining permanent protection from perception!

ElderScrolls_GM |

Interesting inquiry, Nessus Gris.
I feel free to award something similar, even to TWO people who worked their way up in the Thieves Guild, however, then, the "aggro" would be on 2 players out of 4 (or 1 / 3)
I wonder how to combat such a thing, as 1 CR 20 creature or a horde of CR 5 beasts against one person may be.... a lot to take in one round :P

Evelyn Mastercroft |

I actually typed up my own Paladin code. A few are based on the code of a Paladin of Iomedae, but they're all reworded as appropriate.
1. I will uphold the good of all, no matter the price, first and foremost.
2. I swear to aggressively seek and rid the world of abominations that ridicule the sanctity of life; the living dead and the creatures of Oblivion and those that would seek control of them.
3. I will have faith in Stendarr. I will channel his strength through my body. I will shine in his legion, and I will not tarnish his glory through base actions.
4. I am the last to leave a battle. If my death would provide time for a companion to reach safety, so be it.
5. I will not be taken by my free will and I will never surrender those under my command.
6. I will never abandon a companion, though I will honor sacrifice freely given.
7. I will never break a vow unless following through with a vow means committing an evil act. Should I ever make such a vow, I must swear three vows in its place.
8. When in doubt, I may force my enemies to surrender, but I am responsible for their lives.
9. I will never refuse a challenge from an equal. I will give honor to worthy enemies, and contempt to the rest.
10. I will not suffer the evil of racial or sexual inequality, especially in the form of slavery. Should this sin be committed, the guilty will be brought to justice.
Evelyn wants to show that the Fighter's Guild is worth more than just being a band of Mercenaries. She wants to give them a more righteous purpose. That purpose is related to her personal code.

ElderScrolls_GM |

Excellent excellent excellent. I should be able to meet all your expectations and more :)
Alright! Well, a few more days, then, recruitment will close, I'll create the Guild Quests by Tuesday, run a few practice rounds with myself to make sure the first month or two of PbP is pretty rigid and ready to go, and then I'll let you fellers know (lol fellers) when I'm ready :)
Or, when YOU'RE ready. Whatever. LMAO.

ElderScrolls_GM |

An update for everyone!
The issue of Favored Class has been brought up to me-
I looked at the advanced race builder and both their options and charged cost of RP for a favored class anything seems to be b@%%~~&!, SO, if you have not already taken a "favored class" feat/ trait whatever, feel free to do so for free for your class.
This will be available to you at level 1 for simplicity's sake :P
So now you have a class feat, a "racial trait" (racial feat screw you pathfinder) and a favored class bonus available at level 1.
I have already told one person- I do not care what race you steal the favored class bonus from- you built the race and your class, so take what is most optimized for how you want to play and run with it!

Fa'zakar |

Sign me up for the "I LOVE the character concepts!" fanclub!! This is gonna be fun from the story-telling aspect if nothing else =)
So Fa''zakar's starting feats will be:
Race: Cat's Eye
Class: Weapon/Armor Proficiency
Favored Class: Sneak Attack
@GM - if you're happy with this group, can you activate the Gameplay thread so we can check in? That way this game will appear our Campaigns tab. =)

ElderScrolls_GM |

Did I misinterpret the whole favored class thing above? Is that supposed to be the "gain 1/6 of something useful or take the standard +1 to HP or an extra skill point" thing? If it is, then Fa'zakar will keep the +1 HP each level for his favored class...
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here, Fa'zakar.
Each "Pathfinder" race has a class bonus (favored class) option that I am allowing anyone to pick from, as long as it obviously makes sense for their class.
I am not sure what you mean by 1/6 or +1 HP, unless you are saying that is what your current favored class bonus is?

Tenro |

As for the 1/6, I'm assuming this may be a Pathfinder Society thing?
Looking it up, most seem to say it includes first level.
Is the 1/6 rule some sort of honorary custom GM's roll with?
no. Look at the race page for humans. under favored classes, you'll see certain ones like:
it's just that some people might want an extra thing such as the ones listed above, and the official sources decided that certain ones should be able to be accumulated over 4 or 6 levels, some things every other level, etc.