
Kzrira Maiwith |

Kzrira Maiwith wrote:So far it has been one of the more interesting campaigns. Never fast, but also never slow.well maybe not as interesting as heart of journeys...
yeah, i like keeping it steady. to be honest, ZZ's games tire me out trying to keep up. seems like even he has had to slow it up a touch lately.
Yeh - he is insane with the speed and number of campaigns he keeps going. And in Heart of Journeys, I do not think it is the DM that has made it crazy so much as four players who are having a great time turning it into bizarre combination of odd personality quirks and semi/non-human poetry. (Actually, only three of us are partaking in the poetry, the fourth just promotes the worship of battle in a zealous and evangelical nature.)

Amir Awad Hajjir |

lol. Yeah sorry, I had him to watch by myself. Dear lord am I not ready for another one. I gotta train the first one up right. :p
And luckily the computer seems intact...my wife tried to do a nice gesture but got in a little over her head with my cabling arrangements. :D

Kzrira Maiwith |

heh - 1st edition. I just started leading my 7yr old through the Village of Homlet, Module T1. I think it dates to about 1982, but was always one of my favorite modules. I am thinking that I will take him through A1 and A2 next which are the Slave Lord modules as I recall. It is interesting converting the monsters and weapons, but is not that bad as long as I do not have to do it all at once. It would be interesting to run a Temple of Elemental Evil Pathfinder campaign conversion.

Sheik Voodoo |

i'm back on the road. i'll be off and on until after the 1st.
the main things with conversion is the hp and damage inflation.
back in the day- a very old dragon could still be under 50 hp and maybe a challenge for a 6th level party. now we're talking a CR 15. I think encounters were much more compressed without the big modifiers we have today.

Sheik Voodoo |

Faelar- i'm assuming your CMD is 13? I don't see it listed anywhere.
btw if y'all wouldn't mind formatting your character info so that it makes it easier for me to reference, I would appreciate it.
something more like this just for the parts i'll use most-
Init: +6 Speed 30 Perception +7
DEFENSE
HP: 29
AC: 13 (+2 dex, +1 dodge)
Saves: fort +6 ref +6 will +6
Special defenses: Evasion
OFFENSE
BAB +2 CMB +6 CMD 18 (+8, 20 grapple)
Staff +5 (1d6+4)
Unarmed +5 (1d6+3)
feats, skills, etc.
description can be toward the end.

Karethas ibn Faradin |

I'm pretty sure mine is formatted like that except I move CMD to defense because it makes more sense there to me. I will move it back once I get a chance to post on a computer instead of my phone.
The choice between taking a AOO or trying to cast defensively was tricky, but I ended up deciding that the guy at E7 was probably not a melee class, so unlikely to get hit and if I did it would be easier to make a concentration check.

Karethas ibn Faradin |

The Charm Person was from my bonded object. Sorry about the Mage Armor, I meant to put the spell in ooc at the end of the post, but the girlfriend distracted me.

Amir Awad Hajjir |

The Charm Person was from my bonded object. Sorry about the Mage Armor, I meant to put the spell in ooc at the end of the post, but the girlfriend distracted me.
Oh sure the old "my girlfriend kept me from specifying my spell trick". I'm on to you.... ;-)

Sheik Voodoo |

I have adjusted my profile to your specifications.
Are we able to work toward the Achievement feats, from the L-o-F players guide?
thank you, sir. and to be honest achievement feats are too video game-y and too much book keeping. which one were you interested in? I might consider alternative requirements.

Karethas ibn Faradin |

Oh sure the old "my girlfriend kept me from specifying my spell trick". I'm on to you.... ;-)
And I almost got away with it too! I thought I was super sneaky.

Kzrira Maiwith |

Amir Awad Hajjir wrote:And I almost got away with it too! I thought I was super sneaky.
Oh sure the old "my girlfriend kept me from specifying my spell trick". I'm on to you.... ;-)
I think you missed the quote, it is:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

Sheik Voodoo |

Kzrira- On intimidate- "if sucessful, the target gives you the information desire, takes actions that do not endanger it, and otherwise offers limited assistance".
They aren't dominated or necessarily helpful. Commoners would wet themselves on that roll, yes. However, a skilled criminal who feels he has several aces up his sleeve yet, is less compliant. Idi has obeyed your request to strip and drop his weapons. He's not likely to go above and beyond though.

Kzrira Maiwith |

I started with bow and changed to crossbow. I Think I will stick with the crossbow, at least for the time being. I do not have the strength to make a composite bow worthwhile. Crossbow does a little more damage, but requires a few more feats to get really good at.

Kzrira Maiwith |

I could easily switch back to bows. They are much quicker and do not require the 2 feats (rapid reload & crossbow mastery) which crossbows do to get multiple attacks. Really it is 19-20x2 crits vs. 20x3 crits. So not really that much difference.
My plan is to take another level of fighter and then probably 2 or 4 levels of rogue to get some sneak attack bonus, evasion and uncanny dodge. Might take the sniper archetype to get longer range on the sneak attack damage since we have Amir for the traps.
EDIT:
Having reread the fighter, would it be acceptable to switch to the fighter(archer) archetype? Which is amusing since I am pretty sure I was the archer archetype when I started this campaign.

Kzrira Maiwith |

Another interesting class that might work well with your high int/dex is Witch. The hexes are pretty cool - flight, water lung, fortune/misfortune, cackle, evil eye, slumber. Also, they get spells much faster than bards. I will have to think about the oracle mysteries, Lore would be best for you, but its two best revelations - Sidestep Secret and Lore Keeper as well as the class skills, all knowledge, would be completely wasted on you since your dex, int and cha are all the same. Also, with your low strength, the battle and other fighting type oracles are less beneficial.
Flame is cool if you want to be a blaster. Life is pretty good if you want to be the healer, although a Witch with the Healer Hex is probably about the same in many respects. Also, Heavens and Time are also interesting. I really like the Nature Mystery, but once again, one of the big revelations is useless to you since your dex and cha are the same.

Faelar Braegen |

Unfortunately with the Witch I would have to remove my armour, or have the Arcane Spell Failure chance. Also with 2 spell lists, how does it work? Can I prepare my maximum amount of spells from both spell lists, or only a certain amount of spells which are chosen from either?
I was looking at Lore, but have to consider if it will be better than my Bardic Knowledge ability. I was also looking at Life, for a little extra healing power for the group.

Kzrira Maiwith |

Na Bardic Knowledge would rock Lore any day. You would have 2 spell lists. Your Witch spells would be as many as you could cram into your familiar(focus). The bard ones would be limited to the few you have, however, you can cast the bard spells spontaneously, so getting a few useful regular ones would be good. The witch spells are memorized, but the list is fairly extensive. Witches do not have the offensive firepower of wizards, but the hexes are pretty cool and you can use them all you want within the restrictions. For instance you could Slumber 50 different monsters per day, as long as you only put each one to sleep once.
Edit - Also, you can always memorize Mage Armor, or get a Wand of Mage Armor for 750 gp, it is like having a +4 armor on with no spell failure chance. Also, you can probably carry a shield, and just not use it when casting spells.

Amir Awad Hajjir |

A toasted transmission, super plague, sick baby/mommy, non-operational computer weekend from hell is now sorting itself out. I have returned. Sorry for the delay ;-)

Kzrira Maiwith |

Thats ok, while you were away, we sold you into slavery so that a few destitute children could be freed. We figured eventually you would be able to free yourself better than the rest of us.

Amir Awad Hajjir |

Ah excellent, SIDE QUEST! When I return I will be many more levels than all of you; even more magnificent than I already am!

Amir Awad Hajjir |

Thanks.
Voodoo - YEah I live in Olympia like 50/60 miles south of Paizo central. (And I used to work in Redmond where they are located).
Anyway, for some weird reason our town got smashed when normally its not as bad for us. All I have to say is that January has been a crappy month and I am ready to be done with it! ;-p

Kzrira Maiwith |

I find that it is easiest if you put anything in a non-common tongue in a spoiler, that way it is easier. My response would have been the same either way as you role play your naivety extremely well and Kzrira would have just assumed that you were working to get yourself into more unexpected problems.

Karethas ibn Faradin |

I for one do find Shank to be refreshingly honest, not mean and cruel :-). And why do I keep adding a s to the end of his name?

Amir Awad Hajjir |

You don't think he is mean pushing the animals forward and b&*+~ing how weak we are? I find him honest too but the guys a bit of jerk ;-p

Faelar Braegen |

Ah right, I shall do that in future Kzrira, to be honest I had never thought of it and I suppose it would make a lot more sense than just a out of character word stating which language. Thank-you for the advice, I shall start to implement it immediately.
That sounds a lot like Faelar, I must admit I am enjoying playing a character that is a bit naive. It makes a nice change.

Karethas ibn Faradin |

Faelar, when Kzrira asked about any abilities to put the goat to sleep, she was probably referring to it being a good opportunity to use the Bard Ability-Fascinate. Although, it wouldn't have mattered once the spell was cast.

Faelar Braegen |

I had considered that, however to be able to use that and have the goat become fascinated it had to be able to be capable of paying attention to me. I figured since the poor thing was so distraught, it wouldn't be capable of paying attention to me and would just keep on trying to escape.